Mahomes Mountain this week: Answering the Dak complaints

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Yeah my thoughts are that he looked exactly like he always looks against a quality defense and if you don't shut down the opponent's run while they also have awful QB play, you don't get a bunch of sacks and turnovers and you don't get a special teams score as well, you're probably in trouble trying to compete against the better teams with this 60 million dollar sky pointing stiff.

That's my general post game take.
What would be your solution to QB? What’s the best way to get someone clearly better than Dak?

Also, where do you rank Dak vs his NFL comp?
 

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Looked like one of them Cooper Rush games yall hated him for while giving the defense 100% of the credit.
There it is.
I was trying to wrap my head around this thread, while bearing in mind the massive stats, and ensuing bragging, during blowout loss.

It's like Dak Fans can rationalize any situation any scenario...in the meantime downplay and actually insult others who do the same thing.

To be clear....I'm OK with dak and the teams strategy and performance...except mms botched fg play. I know nfl is a tough business but they did exactly what I expect them to do. I'll be watching when things get super tight and see how they handle it.
 

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What would be your solution to QB? What’s the best way to get someone clearly better than Dak?

Also, where do you rank Dak vs his NFL comp?

That question will likely need to be answered in the next few seasons. This question is always posed as though Dak has decades left to play. Maybe the answer is to “embrace the unknown.”

Lots of people fear the dark and death-because they fear the unknown. Jerry Jones and his offspring are the same-nothing more. That’s why they could not wait until after the season to re-sign him. They fear the “what’s next?”
 

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So the people who are like "what's so impressive about Dak's 179 yards?"

Well.....Even Nick Wright states that that statline is deceptive.

He had 179 yards because he sent the game to garbage time early, and basically played the 2nd half on sleep dial. Just possess the ball, run it a bunch of times, throw safe passes, get a few first downs and call it a day.

Game was effectively over with a half left to play after the punt return TD. 27-3

I think Dak's ranking is fair. Thoughts?

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This is BS and this assessment can only come from someone who did not watch every moment of the game. Which is what these talking heads do not do. They give a comment on every team and every player of every game and it is all based upon highlights and clips

Anyone who watched the game saw Dak throwing the ball and throwing incompletions. It was not cruise control they were not running every down. They were throwing and Dak was inaccurate

It is what it is
 

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5-11 for 23 yards. 3, 3 and outs and two other drives for 10 and 14 yards respectively.

He played well in the first half and SUCKED in the second half!
 

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There it is.
I was trying to wrap my head around this thread, while bearing in mind the massive stats, and ensuing bragging, during blowout loss.

It's like Dak Fans can rationalize any situation any scenario...in the meantime downplay and actually insult others who do the same thing.

To be clear....I'm OK with dak and the teams strategy and performance...except mms botched fg play. I know nfl is a tough business but they did exactly what I expect them to do. I'll be watching when things get super tight and see how they handle it.
That Browns defense would have had Cooper Rush for lunch. The Cowboys still might have won the game but remember.. the Cowboys scored 14 ppg LESS with Rush at QB than they do with Dak. How different are we talking about that game if it's 19-17 instead of 33-17? How different does Cleveland play it once they realize the Cowboys aren't going to score either?
 

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right are are we going to add in all the other performances like by Aaron Rodgers, Joe Burrows Watson and other quarterbacks that are making anywhere from 45 the $60 million do we wanna breakdown theirs because there weren't many that did anything in week one that I remember hardly any of them.... Lots of them had either 200 yards or under they weren't lighting up the friendly skies but did we get to pick them apart?
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Stats only seem to matter when Prescott's not putting up big numbers but when he puts up big numbers people say stats don't matter only wins well did we not win the game a game on the road on grass to get the top five defense a lot of people picked us to lose?

I mean did anybody watch the start of some of those games the quarterbacks look like garbage.... It happens in a lot of game ones it also happens when you get up early and you go into a vanilla shell and you play the clock and not the team that's what we did we got up early we salted away the wins much like the 90s Cowboys did I mean they looked just like that remember when we bring up Troy Aikman they say stats don't matter only wins his stats were terrible for his whole career..
 

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That Browns defense would have had Cooper Rush for lunch. The Cowboys still might have won the game but remember.. the Cowboys scored 14 ppg LESS with Rush at QB than they do with Dak. How different are we talking about that game if it's 19-17 instead of 33-17? How different does Cleveland play it once they realize the Cowboys aren't going to score either?
Why is it that stats only matter when we're talking about Prescott's low stats but if he has big stats they say it's a team game and stats don't matter only wins and losses... I'm curious to why this only comes up but yet go around look at the rest of the NFL I didn't see all 32 games but most of the ones I were watching there were a lot of big name quarterbacks that have big time contracts that had under 200 yard games and a lot of them have interceptions and fumbles to add to it... We're gonna dissect their games guys like Joe Burrows Watson and Aaron Rodgers I mean Aaron Rodgers looked like a dude it just got pulled out of retirement he looked like garbage his only numbers came in garbage time that first half that dude would look like Ben dinucci are we gonna talk about that?!!!

By the way The Jets don't they have like a stable of running backs we wish we had don't they have a great defense? How in the world did Aaron Rodgers look like that and don't say it's rust I mean I've seen Mr. Prescott come off injuries a broken ankle snapped off and had a year of all years at 37 touchdowns and 10 interceptions he has one off game coming back from a broken hand and people break it down so I don't wanna hear the excuses there are a lot of great quarterbacks around this league in week one that did not look good at all... But now stats matter because we won the game and they don't wanna give Prescott any credit whatsoever....
 

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It was a typical Dak game against a good defense.

Less than 200 yards through the air.

Week 3 will be the true test. Playing against one of the leagues best teams with one of the better quarterbacks.
 

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It was a typical Dak game against a good defense.

Less than 200 yards through the air.

Week 3 will be the true test. Playing against one of the leagues best teams with one of the better quarterbacks.
Dude Dak just hung 26 points on the #1 defense in the league last season with the two time defensive player of the year going up against a rookie at LT. Most impressively the Cowboys offense scored 13 more points than the Browns gave up on average at home last season. They only gave up more than 20 points at home twice and they whupped the 49ers on that same field while holding them to 17. There aint gonna be no bigger test than the Browns in the Dawg Pound. I know people don't wanna see it or acknowledge it yet.. but they will as the season goes on.
 

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I'm sure you think Dak deserves placement into a tier well above the 1st tier, but I watched a different game this past Sunday. I thought it was a performance that was way below average and borderline garbage for a player who just received the largest pay day in NFL history. But you and the OP think otherwise. Who am I to try to change the minds of the inexorable masses. I won't even bother wasting my time.
All we ever hear is how much stats matter when it comes to the fangirl fave … weird bc his stats from Sunday were all below average to below … 20th in comp% and less than 50 yards and a bunch of 3 and outs in the second half validate what you and a bunch of others saw.

All these below average stats were on weekend where we’re being told all the QBs played bad … so does that mean Dak was reallly bad? I mean his game check was top 5 so that’s gotta offset, yah ?
 

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I'm sure you think Dak deserves placement into a tier well above the 1st tier, but I watched a different game this past Sunday. I thought it was a performance that was way below average and borderline garbage for a player who just received the largest pay day in NFL history. But you and the OP think otherwise. Who am I to try to change the minds of the inexorable masses. I won't even bother wasting my time.
Yet, here you are. Yapping away. Just zip it.
 

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That question will likely need to be answered in the next few seasons. This question is always posed as though Dak has decades left to play. Maybe the answer is to “embrace the unknown.”

Lots of people fear the dark and death-because they fear the unknown. Jerry Jones and his offspring are the same-nothing more. That’s why they could not wait until after the season to re-sign him. They fear the “what’s next?”
Right. Or the what was before..
Hutchinson, Henson, Carter…

Yes. I don’t want that and that’s why I ask these people that think Dak is terrible to give me a good solution and I’m waiting.
 

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This ridiculous line of thinking that Dak's stats were down only because the offense shut it down in the second half is about as weak an analysis as you can get regarding evaluating the actual play of the QB. You have to look a lot deeper than that to judge the player individually.

Of course the stats are going to reflect the game plan used to get them but if you aren't looking at each and every individual play that lead to those stats in evaluating the player, you might as well be watching Golden Girls reruns.

You unabashed Dak super fans only invite conflict when you reach so far to prop him up. Makes no sense. Especially after a game where there really isn't anything to complain about. Strange behavior.
 

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Yet, here you are. Yapping away. Just zip it.
What’s the end goal constantly trying silence those who see Dak for what he has shown to be? Why does it bother you so much that people don’t all see Dak through the same rose colored glasses and have a critical thinking lense.

Maybe YOU should leave and go start your own fan club where only peace luv & dakumbyaaaa are allowed. I’ll be happy to start the go fund me.

Dak was below average on Sunday and was terrible for a large part of it … he was lucky he was out-terribled by the opposing QB. Dak made 3-4 good plays worth a high five and was carried by an above average performance by the defense a top 3 special teams. Hope he broke off some of that game check for Aubrey and the D.
 

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Dude Dak just hung 26 points on the #1 defense in the league last season with the two time defensive player of the year going up against a rookie at LT. Most impressively the Cowboys offense scored 13 more points than the Browns gave up on average at home last season. They only gave up more than 20 points at home twice and they whupped the 49ers on that same field while holding them to 17. There aint gonna be no bigger test than the Browns in the Dawg Pound. I know people don't wanna see it or acknowledge it yet.. but they will as the season goes on.
Automatic Aubrey would like a word. Dak hung 6 on the Browns.

Facts matter.
 
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