Mahomes Mountain this week: Answering the Dak complaints

[Kevinicus]

I don't understand how having a big lead correlates into missing easy passes.

 

[Yobwocs]

Why are we acting like our QB didn't crush an awesome defense?

These are the players they had whom were all playing:


Dalvin Tomlinson
Myles Garrett
Zadarius Smith
Martin Emerson
Grant Delpit
Denzel Ward

It's a stacked team on both sides of the ball

 

[DandyDon52]

So the people who are like "what's so impressive about Dak's 179 yards?"

Well.....Even Nick Wright states that that statline is deceptive.

He had 179 yards because he sent the game to garbage time early, and basically played the 2nd half on sleep dial. Just possess the ball, run it a bunch of times, throw safe passes, get a few first downs and call it a day.

Game was effectively over with a half left to play after the punt return TD. 27-3

I think Dak's ranking is fair. Thoughts?

QB Tiers like this are meaningless and I dont really care what or how they rate the qb's.

 

[Jack Burton]

Why are we acting like our QB didn't crush an awesome defense?

These are the players they had whom were all playing:


Dalvin Tomlinson
Myles Garrett
Zadarius Smith
Martin Emerson
Grant Delpit
Denzel Ward

It's a stacked team on both sides of the ball

Seriously? Our defense did the crushing. Dak was along for the ride. He did some good things in the first half, but he looked rusty and off in the second. He wasn't coasting or dialing it down. He was missing easy throws and killing drives.

 

[5Stars]

Seriously? Our defense did the crushing. Dak was along for the ride. He did some good things in the first half, but he looked rusty and off in the second. He wasn't coasting or dialing it down. He was missing easy throws and killing drives.

You better not make fun of her crush.

 

[Blitzen]

Why would I be disingenuous? On the internet about this?

I think the solutions proposed are not likely to work. Drafting a QB is likely the hardest draft decision in sports. Look at the MANY failed top pics. Look at how teams stumble on Mahomes or Brady or Rodgers when many teams thought they weren’t that good.

If our QB was one of the worst in the league I could see moving on. He just isn’t.

Tell me this Hotshot, who’s your can’t miss guys in this draft and we will see how easy it is. None have had a good start.

The key is the solutions I’ve heard seem not well thought out and or fantastical. . That’s why I’d like to hear a good one with a very good chance at drafting a pro bowl type guy. Give me one and If it’s good I’ll tell you.

Then state what you dislike specifically about the proposed solutions and why you think they make such poor choices as to not entertain them.

There are never guaranteed solutions. Just like there is no guarantee on betting on Dak for 4 more seasons. The entire thing could go off a cliff (no I and we do not want it to just to be correct)-because Dak is hitting an age where many QB’s start to decline slightly (eventually steeply) year over year. You still have not offered your own solution to this dilemma when it comes inevitably. It’s like the chuck and duck solution to actual discussion.

Just a little food for thought. Jimmy Garoppolo has never been a great QB but had great success with the 49ers because they built a great squad but also got really high draft picks after one of his injured seasons (Joey Bosa, Deebo, their current punter, Dre Greenlaw). Their current success has a teeny amount to do with Brock Purdy (but they may not have the guts to just draft a replacement). Baker Mayfield was dumped three times before ending up on a competent Bucs’ team that almost made the NFCCG. Geno Smith is good enough to make the playoffs with a more competent team than the Jets. I could go on, but really you would think that some people would start realizing that many QB’s can succeed with good competent teams.

The reason you see so many rookie QB’s fail is because they typically go to teams with nothing built on either line of scrimmage, no or few weapons, few or no blue chip talent on the roster, new coaching staffs and front office personnel-no patience from the owner to wait until the QB develops before hitting the field (3 year or less commitments to the front office and coaching staff-then shitcan the whole thing and start over).

 

[Yobwocs]

Seriously? Our defense did the crushing. Dak was along for the ride. He did some good things in the first half, but he looked rusty and off in the second. He wasn't coasting or dialing it down. He was missing easy throws and killing drives.

14-3.

33-10 (before they added garbage time Touchdown)

That's crushing. Youre rarely gonna get 300 of passing on them. They're #1 for a reason.

They have legitimate 6 players on defense that Cowboys fans would be happy if they were signed here, stating we need more depth to our Defensive Line. And their secondary is as good as ours.

 

[DogFace]

Then state what you dislike specifically about the proposed solutions and why you think they make such poor choices as to not entertain them.

There are never guaranteed solutions. Just like there is no guarantee on betting on Dak for 4 more seasons. The entire thing could go off a cliff (no I and we do not want it to just to be correct)-because Dak is hitting an age where many QB’s start to decline slightly (eventually steeply) year over year. You still have not offered your own solution to this dilemma when it comes inevitably. It’s like the chuck and duck solution to actual discussion.

Just a little food for thought. Jimmy Garoppolo has never been a great QB but had great success with the 49ers because they built a great squad but also got really high draft picks after one of his injured seasons (Joey Bosa, Deebo, their current punter, Dre Greenlaw). Their current success has a teeny amount to do with Brock Purdy (but they may not have the guts to just draft a replacement). Baker Mayfield was dumped three times before ending up on a competent Bucs’ team that almost made the NFCCG. Geno Smith is good enough to make the playoffs with a more competent team than the Jets. I could go on, but really you would think that some people would start realizing that many QB’s can succeed with good competent teams.

The reason you see so many rookie QB’s fail is because they typically go to teams with nothing built on either line of scrimmage, no or few weapons, few or no blue chip talent on the roster, new coaching staffs and front office personnel-no patience from the owner to wait until the QB develops before hitting the field (3 year or less commitments to the front office and coaching staff-then shitcan the whole thing and start over).

Because so many rookies fail. And we have a guy now that made the pro bowl. It’s seems that it’s difficult to get a pro bowl Qb

I believe the numbers back up that we can win more in the playoffs than we have with Dak and we’ve inarguably won more than many teams that had a plan at QB. Statistically he’s done pretty well when compared to his peers.

Many top ranked QB’s fail far worse than our current QB has. I feel I’ve stated that quite a few times. The grass is sometimes greener. Sometimes it’s filled with dog**** though. I hate dog**** in the grass.

If they had let him go then I’d go with that. I’d just hope they made the right choice. There’s a chance that would’ve been a good choice.

 

[MajesticRey]

All the stans have done for the past 8 years is constantly point out Dak's stats. He has a mediocre season opener and suddenly the stat line is deceptive? That he went into garbage time early because the game was essentially over?

Is there no end to the excuses this guy gets?

Are we supposed to throw the ball 50 times if we the game has been won 3 minutes into the second half?

 

[Blitzen]

Because so many rookies fail. And we have a guy now that made the pro bowl. It’s seems that it’s difficult to get a pro bowl Qb

I believe the numbers back up that we can win more in the playoffs than we have with Dak and we’ve inarguably won more than many teams that had a plan at QB. Statistically he’s done pretty well when compared to his peers.

Many top ranked QB’s fail far worse than our current QB has. I feel I’ve stated that quite a few times. The grass is sometimes greener. Sometimes it’s filled with dog**** though. I hate dog**** in the grass.

If they had let him go then I’d go with that. I’d just hope they made the right choice. There’s a chance that would’ve been a good choice.

Okay, at least you met me kinda halfway. You keep avoiding the question of what is your plan when Dak inevitably can no longer start in this league?

 

[nobody]

Why does Nick Wright have Stafford in his 2nd tier? Didn't the Rams lose to the Lions?

Meanwhile, Dak and the Cowboys won decisively, yet Dak is listed in the 3rd tier???

You know I think Dak is a post-season choker, but I really don't understand the complaints about his game one play. Dude was rusty. Nearly every QB1 was that didn't play preseason. It's to be expected and he still helped the team kick the Browns' butts. There's really nothing to complain about. He's only going to get better through the season. He does this every year. If he could just fix those mental hurdles he's set up for himself post-season, he does have the talent to help the team go all the way.

Even those of us who think he'll choke in the playoffs should be rooting for him to prove us wrong. He's a Cowboy.

 

[Scotman]

Wow, you’re very sensitive aren’t you.

No, just too mature for such petty name calling.

 

[America's Cowboy]

You know I think Dak is a post-season choker, but I really don't understand the complaints about his game one play. Dude was rusty. Nearly every QB1 was that didn't play preseason. It's to be expected and he still helped the team kick the Browns' butts. There's really nothing to complain about. He's only going to get better through the season. He does this every year. If he could just fix those mental hurdles he's set up for himself post-season, he does have the talent to help the team go all the way.

Even those of us who think he'll choke in the playoffs should be rooting for him to prove us wrong. He's a Cowboy.

Well said brother!

 

[Rockport]

No, just too mature for such petty name calling.

What name calling? I said you’re naive. We’re all naive about many things. You’re no exception.

 

[Scotman]

What name calling? I said you’re naive. We’re all naive about many things. You’re no exception.

This is the last time I'll go back and forth with you. I just don't get it. I have no idea why you'd behave like you are. I've never said anything ugly to you or about you. I spent my entire career helping children and adults resolve issues. I don't need to do so on a forum, so I do my best to avoid conflicts...even minor ones. I won't lose any sleep over this, it's just a bit odd. But, hey, you do you if this kind of interaction is positive for you.

If you go back and read my original comment, there was nothing naïve about it. Dak's time is ticking. His legacy as our Cowboys' QB is being written with ever pass...every game. It's fair bet that his career is more than half over. So far, he hasn't done it in the preseason. And I don't believe he will get any more of a pass that Danny White or Tony Romo, if he doesn't get to and win a Superbowl. Hopefully, this will be the year that it comes together for the entire team.

 

[Rockport]

This is the last time I'll go back and forth with you. I just don't get it. I have no idea why you'd behave like you are. I've never said anything ugly to you or about you. I spent my entire career helping children and adults resolve issues. I don't need to do so on a forum, so I do my best to avoid conflicts...even minor ones. I won't lose any sleep over this, it's just a bit odd. But, hey, you do you if this kind of interaction is positive for you.

If you go back and read my original comment, there was nothing naïve about it. Dak's time is ticking. His legacy as our Cowboys' QB is being written with ever pass...every game. It's fair bet that his career is more than half over. So far, he hasn't done it in the preseason. And I don't believe he will get any more of a pass that Danny White or Tony Romo, if he doesn't get to and win a Superbowl. Hopefully, this will be the year that it comes together for the entire team.

What’s odd is how bent you got over me calling you naive. Sorry dude, didn’t mean to hurt your feelings as much as it did.

 

[OGSixshooter]

Why does Nick Wright have Stafford in his 2nd tier? Didn't the Rams lose to the Lions?

Meanwhile, Dak and the Cowboys won decisively, yet Dak is listed in the 3rd tier???

The Lions went further than we did in the playoffs.

 

[America's Cowboy]

The Lions went further than we did in the playoffs.

We beat the Lions last season. Plus, this rating is supposed to be based on this season, Week 1's performance. It's totally warped and wrong to place a losing Week 1 QB at a higher tier to start this season over a Week 1 winner.

 

[DogFace]

Okay, at least you met me kinda halfway. You keep avoiding the question of what is your plan when Dak inevitably can no longer start in this league?

Well then we have to replace him. Hopefully, we draft someone before he’s done as with Romo. Again, that’s not easy. At any point we can get a viable replacement I'm for it. Just not starting over for the sake of it.

 

[Adreme]

Seriously? Our defense did the crushing. Dak was along for the ride. He did some good things in the first half, but he looked rusty and off in the second. He wasn't coasting or dialing it down. He was missing easy throws and killing drives.

I mean the offense looked great until they took their foot off the gas. I am not sure it was a good idea to do so but you could very clearly tell the moment when the offense shifted from trying to score to trying to avoid turning the ball over.