Malcolm Kelly won't run today at OU Pro Day

[DFWJC]

My big concern with Smith is what my big concern is with all OU defensive backs. Even the passing teams they face in the Big 12 are not the same as facing big time passing teams in the SEC, PAC-10 or whatever and what you see, a lot, is that when OU has to play teams that are really great at passing, like a USC or what have you, their defensive backs get out classed in a bad way.

I'm always very cautious about getting really amped about OU defensive backs. The only one I've ever got real high on was Roy, cause of his physical nature, and that has turned out to be poor in the passing area for us as well.

I have to disagree w/ you there because UT and others HAVE had some quality DBs...and they too played against Big12 competition. As for Smith, I have no strong opinion on him except that if he had an unexcused absense at his pro day, then he drops in my eyes.

 

[Garret]

I dont think Smith is very good. I was at the OU/Tech game and CrabTree was making him look like a scrub all day long.

 

[DFWJC]

Jerry Rice usually was one of the fastest dudes on the field. Too much has been made of his supposed 4.6 time, even Gil Brandt has stated that the Cowboys time on Rice was 4.40; but I do agree that a 4.5 time is good enough for Kelly at his size(if he can run that) though he also needs to show good times in the other drills.

The Rice analogies always fall short because he was a one of a kind talent...and yes, his pre-draft times did not represent his true speed. Furthermore, a 4.6 10-15 years ago is the same as a 4.5 (or maybe even a 4.47 or so) time now. Players are much faster across the board.

 

[iceberg]

Many people know that I am a huge Oklahoma fan. I even made it to a few games last year. I have talked to literally hundreds of fans and I have not heard a single peep of what you are claiming about Reggie.

Gotta make a call and see if I can find out what happened to Reggie.

thanks for chiming in. i'd love to hear more about what you find so we can get a more accurate view of things. i just hate lunch-time judgements where you tuck someone away in a few short sentences regardless of who they are and because of who that person is, the one judged is misunderstood very often.

please, keep us posted!

 

[BigDave95]

I dont think Smith is very good. I was at the OU/Tech game and CrabTree was making him look like a scrub all day long.

Crabtree made a LOT of people look like scrubs this year. Can we draft HIM????

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Reported and actual is about as similar as your aunt and uncle...It's one argument to make that some WRs can still be amazing without blazing speed and yet another one entirely to assume his 'reported' time is accurate.

It's also just as iffy to assume that his reported isn't accurate. It's just as likely that it is accurate as it is that it's not.


I'm not saying he for sure does run in that range but the people who've just automatically labeled him as slow seem to be jumping the gun a bit, to me anyway.

 

[iceberg]

It's also just as iffy to assume that his reported isn't accurate. It's just as likely that it is accurate as it is that it's not.

I'm not saying he for sure does run in that range but the people who've just automatically labeled him as slow seem to be jumping the gun a bit, to me anyway.

for the most part that's what people do. it gets a LOT WORSE if that report solidifies a pre-existing notion on someone. i'm glad dallas is taking some time to do some digging and hope we get some alternate input from him soon.

by and large people rag on others cause it's more fun i suppose or gives them some form of superior feeling.

 

[L-O-Jete]

Crabtree made a LOT of people look like scrubs this year. Can we draft HIM????

No, but we can trade one of our firsts this year for one next year and hope our 2 firsts next year are enough to get him; wash, rinse & repeat as needed.

 

[BigDave95]

No, but we can trade one of our firsts this year for one next year and hope our 2 firsts next year are enough to get him; wash, rinse & repeat as needed.

As long as it's not the *** Browns!!! I'll hate Derek Anderson until the day I die for costing me DMac.

I wouldn't be upset at all if we pulled another Cleveland/Buffalo. It sure does add a fun wrinkle to the following season. And sooner or later we have to get it right....

 

[FCBarca]

It's also just as iffy to assume that his reported isn't accurate. It's just as likely that it is accurate as it is that it's not.


I'm not saying he for sure does run in that range but the people who've just automatically labeled him as slow seem to be jumping the gun a bit, to me anyway.

How does avoiding getting timed at both the combine and pro day factor into your iffy algorithm?

 

[YosemiteSam]

How'd your mock draft go last year? Mine did okay.

What is a mock draft got to do with talent evaluation? Nothing. You are guessing who teams are going to pick in order. It speaks nothing of a players abilities as a team can take on need or best player available.

I don't pick mock drafts as I don't find it very enjoyable personally. I evaluate players because of my strong feelings for the Cowboys. If I didn't care as much, I wouldn't even do that. (I don't do it for baseball, basketball, or hockey) Any thoughts I have on who other teams will draft is strictly logical with minimal input to alter the judgement. My thoughts on who the Cowboys should draft is driven by everything I know about the team.

 

[theogt]

What is a mock draft got to do with talent evaluation? Nothing. You are guessing who teams are going to pick in order. It speaks nothing of a players abilities as a team can take on need or best player available.

I don't pick mock drafts as I don't find it very enjoyable personally. I evaluate players because of my strong feelings for the Cowboys. If I didn't care as much, I wouldn't even do that. (I don't do it for baseball, basketball, or hockey) Any thoughts I have on who other teams will draft is strictly logical with minimal input to alter the judgement. My thoughts on who the Cowboys should draft is driven by everything I know about the team.

The conversation was about whether or not Jackson and Hardy could be taken ahead of Kelly.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Apparently he was hurt at both the combine and the Pro Day. I'm no doctor, and I don't know him personally, so I have no basis to say otherwise that he is or isn't hurt.

Until he runs a 40 and for sure runs slower, or faster, I can only go by what he has reportedly ran in the past. Rather he's that fast, or not, I don't know but I'm not just going to assume he's slow.

I'll go with, for now, that I don't know one way or another how fast he really is.

 

[YosemiteSam]

The conversation was about whether or not Jackson and Hardy could be taken ahead of Kelly.

Picking on need is irrelevant as they are both WRs. So it comes down to talent, and Kelly is heads above both!

 

[CATCH17]

I dont think Smith is very good. I was at the OU/Tech game and CrabTree was making him look like a scrub all day long.

I dont think OU has very good coaching in the secondary.

They ran a zone scheme for years and now teams have learned how to pick it apart and they still run it.

I honestly dont understand why any Defensive Back with talent would want to play at OU. They will just ruin you.

 

[ddh33]

I dont think OU has very good coaching in the secondary.

They ran a zone scheme for years and now teams have learned how to pick it apart and they still run it.

I honestly dont understand why any Defensive Back with talent would want to play at OU. They will just ruin you.

You must be talking about the famous Bobby Jack Wright 15 yard cushion that somehow still lets receivers run past DBs

I do think that Reggie Smith will suffer somewhat because of OU coaches. A lot of people don't know if he is a safety or a corner, and I worry a little bit about him at either spot. I don't know if he's physical enough to be a safety, and I don't know about his speed at corner. So his 40 time and weigh-in is going to be more important than some other guys...

But OU is full of guys who got moved all around back there. DJ Wolfe may be a pretty good safety prospect, but that's after he failed miserably a couple of times at corner. And that was after he got shifted to defense after some guy named Adrian Peterson started getting all of the carries at RB...

Actually, that same year, Allen Patrick moved from safety to RB. That's part of the reason why I like Patrick as a special teamer too. That guy flies down the field to drill somebody.

 

[CATCH17]

You must be talking about the famous Bobby Jack Wright 15 yard cushion that somehow still lets receivers run past DBs

I do think that Reggie Smith will suffer somewhat because of OU coaches. A lot of people don't know if he is a safety or a corner, and I worry a little bit about him at either spot. I don't know if he's physical enough to be a safety, and I don't know about his speed at corner. So his 40 time and weigh-in is going to be more important than some other guys...

But OU is full of guys who got moved all around back there. DJ Wolfe may be a pretty good safety prospect, but that's after he failed miserably a couple of times at corner. And that was after he got shifted to defense after some guy named Adrian Peterson started getting all of the carries at RB...

Actually, that same year, Allen Patrick moved from safety to RB. That's part of the reason why I like Patrick as a special teamer too. That guy flies down the field to drill somebody.

I have Reggie Smith down as a Free Safety in the NFL.

He has the ability to be a solid corner but in my opinion his potential is much higher at Safety.

If he came to Dallas and was put at Safety you have to believe Roy Williams days are numbered if he can't raise his game.

OU is going to miss him greatly next year because he is super talented and OU is the Mike Zimmer of screwing up secondary talent.

 

[ddh33]

We're seeing eye to eye then. I think Reggie's best chance at success is as a ball-hawking free safety. I think he's more than adequate as a tackler, but I don't expect a ton of bone-jarring hits from him. He should get the job done though.

And yes, OU is going to miss him. He was the guy they just sort of plugged in wherever there was a hole.

Part of the reason why I like him though and would be fine with seeing him in Dallas is actually because of his versatility. I think he's someone who can come in on nickel downs and help you right away in a variety of ways.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

But if he's dumb and especially if he's lazy, I don't want him at any cost.

I do think he's probably athletic enough to play corner for someone, though... Maybe I'm wrong, but he was their punt returner and I thought he looked pretty good doing it.

Back to the point, though... Don't take any unmotivated and unprofessional players. Period.

 

[CATCH17]

We're seeing eye to eye then. I think Reggie's best chance at success is as a ball-hawking free safety. I think he's more than adequate as a tackler, but I don't expect a ton of bone-jarring hits from him. He should get the job done though.

And yes, OU is going to miss him. He was the guy they just sort of plugged in wherever there was a hole.

Part of the reason why I like him though and would be fine with seeing him in Dallas is actually because of his versatility. I think he's someone who can come in on nickel downs and help you right away in a variety of ways.

Agreed.

A guy like him, if he pans out, could save you a roster spot.