Manning cashes in

[TellerMorrow34]

This isn't a surprise, in the least.

He's a good QB. He's got a ring. He's getting the market value for a good, young QB, with a Superbowl ring that is currently out there. No one in their right mind is going to intentionally say..."You know what. That's a little high for me right now. I'm not Peyton or Tom so I think I'll take 75 instead just to be fair."

Anyone thinking that someone would do that is crazy. The guy, and his agent, got the market value for a guy in his position with what he's already been able to accomplish.

I actually expected it to be a little higher.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Eli Manning just signed a 6 year extention for 97.5 million with a 35 million signing bonus, so including this years salary, the total deal is worth 106.9 million dollar deal making him the highest paid QB in the league averaging 16 million a season.. Makes Romo deal look like a bargain...

Wow. I think he has the talent, just not the mental state to be a great QB. Without Plex, he is up the creek without a paddle. Now the Giants just played roulette and bet on 00 with their entire paycheck.

There is an outside chance this will work, but chances are he will never live up to that contract.

 

[Dodger]

He may not be the best QB in the league but he is also not a QB you let go to free agency.

Pretty much to the point. I mean, what else could the Giants do?

 

[GMen86]

Put me down on the list that thinks this is a mistake.

Eli is a good quarterback - good, not great.

He's being paid great quarterback money.

He played his best football two years ago down the stretch and did enough to win a championship, but even then, he didn't play great quarterback.

I'll be very interested to see how he does minus Burress and Toomer.

He looked very average the final 5 games of last season.

So you think the Giants would be better off risking losing him to FA and starting Carr, Bohmar or drafting a QB next year?

Giants are built to win now, it's not the time for grooming a new QB or going with a backup like Carr. They did what they had to do to lock up a good, proven QB.

As others have said, this is not a ridiculous contract, especially given the circumstances. If the Giants were looking at a 4-12 season, with no real talent to build around Manning you consider letting him go and building a new team with that money. Now is not that time.

 

[Doomsday101]

Wow. I think he has the talent, just not the mental state to be a great QB. Without Plex, he is up the creek without a paddle. Now the Giants just played roulette and bet on 00 with their entire paycheck.

There is an outside chance this will work, but chances are he will never live up to that contract.

He may have some problems this coming year without Burress but they drafted a very fine WR in Hakeem Nicks who will develop with Manning.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Pretty much to the point. I mean, what else could the Giants do?

At $106M, you let him walk. To say, you can't let him walk for any price is salary cap suicide. Eli while talented, just isn't worth that kind of money. You cripple your team paying him that much. Especially when he isn't the driving force behind the teams ability to score.

 

[Stash]

So you think the Giants would be better off risking losing him to FA and starting Carr, Bohmar or drafting a QB next year?

Giants are built to win now, it's not the time for grooming a new QB or going with a backup like Carr. They did what they had to do to lock up a good, proven QB.

As others have said, this is not a ridiculous contract, especially given the circumstances. If the Giants were looking at a 4-12 season, with no real talent to build around Manning you consider letting him go and building a new team with that money. Now is not that time.

Compared to Tom Brady's contract - a quarterback that Eli does not hold a candle to, despite getting lucky - yeah, I think Eli's deal is ridiculous.

I think I would have seen what he can (or can't) do without Burress and Toomer before backing up the money truck.

Worst case scenario, they could have franchised him for a year to buy themselves even more time.

 

[YosemiteSam]

He may have some problems this coming year without Burress but they drafted a very fine WR in Hakeem Nicks who will develop with Manning.

I SERIOUSLY doubt Nicks will even come close to Burress' production. Burress was the driving force behind the Giants offense

 

[Chocolate Lab]

hboy:

This just means the fans will turn on him even more when he falters.

 

[Doomsday101]

At $106M, you let him walk. To say, you can't let him walk for any price is salary cap suicide. Eli while talented, just isn't worth that kind of money. You cripple your team paying him that much. Especially when he isn't the driving force behind the teams ability to score.

A lot of what you say here is true on the other hand it is hard as hell to find quality QB's and when you find one you have to do what you can to keep him. Dallas spent years looking before Romo got the job as BP would say you can't just dial 1-800-QB and expect to get a good QB

 

[GMen86]

Compared to Tom Brady's contract - a quarterback that Eli does not hold a candle to, despite getting lucky - yeah, I think Eli's deal is ridiculous.

I think I would have seen what he can (or can't) do without Burress and Toomer before backing up the money truck.

Worst case scenario, they could have franchised him for a year to buy themselves even more time.

Fair point, I considered that option while I was typing my reply. If he has a crappy year without Plax you sign him for less or let him walk, but if he wins the SB you are looking at a much larger contract than $106.

I personally like the way Jerry Reese is thinking. I imagine he feels the team is poised to win and doesn't want Eli even thinking about his contract.

 

[Doomsday101]

I SERIOUSLY down Nicks will even come close to Burress' production. Burress was the driving force behind the Giants offense

I don't know how good Nicks will be, I think Burress will be missed this year depending on how quickly Nicks develops. In the end Burress was not going to help NY regardless with a prison sentence staring him in the face, the Giants went out and got on of the nations top WR and we will find out how good he can be in the NFL but to think Burress is somehow unreplaceable? I don't think so

 

[GMen86]

Fair point, I considered that option while I was typing my reply. If he has a crappy year without Plax you sign him for less or let him walk, but if he wins the SB you are looking at a much larger contract than $106.

I personally like the way Jerry Reese is thinking. I imagine he feels the team is poised to win and doesn't want Eli even thinking about his contract.

I don't agree that Eli was "lucky" though. The Tyree catch certainly fits that bill but the rest of the playoffs was far from luck. In 4 games (3 on the road) he only had 1 int, against the 2 'best' teams in the NFC and arguably one of the best teams in NFL history with the Pats.

Did you consider the drive at the end of the half against you guys luck?

 

[Doomsday101]

I don't agree that Eli was "lucky" though. The Tyree catch certainly fits that bill but the rest of the playoffs was far from luck. In 4 games (3 on the road) he only had 1 int, against the 2 'best' teams in the NFC and arguably one of the best teams in NFL history with the Pats.

Did you consider the drive at the end of the half against you guys luck?

Luck no bad tackling yes.

 

[Stash]

Fair point, I considered that option while I was typing my reply. If he has a crappy year without Plax you sign him for less or let him walk, but if he wins the SB you are looking at a much larger contract than $106.

Yeah, that was my thinking. But even if he were to win another Super Bowl, I can't see his deal being much bigger than what he's getting, and at that point, during the euphoria of a second title so soon, I could see a lot of people having little or no problem with whatever deal he got, including me.

I personally like the way Jerry Reese is thinking. I imagine he feels the team is poised to win and doesn't want Eli even thinking about his contract.

I can't argue with much of what Reese has done while in New York - other than this one maybe.

But I'm a Cowboys fan so I have to look for something!

 

[theogt]

 

[GMen86]

Luck no bad tackling yes.

LOL....it's all a matter of perception.

 

[Stash]

I don't agree that Eli was "lucky" though. The Tyree catch certainly fits that bill but the rest of the playoffs was far from luck. In 4 games (3 on the road) he only had 1 int, against the 2 'best' teams in the NFC and arguably one of the best teams in NFL history with the Pats.

Did you consider the drive at the end of the half against you guys luck?

NO, I was specifically referring to the Tyree catch.

The rest was simply him playing his best football of his career.

He played well when it mattered most, no doubt.

 

[YosemiteSam]

A lot of what you say here is true on the other hand it is hard as hell to find quality QB's and when you find one you have to do what you can to keep him. Dallas spent years looking before Romo got the job as BP would say you can't just dial 1-800-QB and expect to get a good QB

Die by drowning or die by shotgun blast. You're still dead, might as well take the less painful way to die. By letting him walk you have a chance of getting a good QB without crippling your team by the salary cap.

EDIT: and it has already been proven you don't need a great QB to win a Superbowl. Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer, Eli Manning.

 

[GMen86]

NO, I was specifically referring to the Tyree catch.

The rest was simply him playing his best football of his career.

He played well when it mattered most, no doubt.

I think you could look at every great Super Bowl run and identify a lucky play that helped with the outcome of the game. The tyree catch was just on the greatest stage, in the final seconds, against one of the best NFL teams of all time so it stands out.

The tyree catch should not diminish the Giants super bowl run but I understand as a Cowboys fan, or any rival, why you want it to.

Anyway time will tell the outcome of this contract but I think there are few GM's who would have done differently.