Manning cashes in

[Dodger]

At $106M, you let him walk. To say, you can't let him walk for any price is salary cap suicide. Eli while talented, just isn't worth that kind of money. You cripple your team paying him that much. Especially when he isn't the driving force behind the teams ability to score.

Sure, they could have let him walk. Then what? Play David Carr who has shown absolutely nothing in the league, or play either of their two totally inexperienced projects?

Would you do that? Somehow I doubt it.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Sure, they could have let him walk. Then what? Play David Carr who has shown absolutely nothing in the league, or play either of their two totally inexperienced projects?

Would you do that? Somehow I doubt it.

I would not pay Eli $15+ million a year. The best part of the dea is that they only gave him $35 signing bonus.

 

[hmcorp]

so thats how much you pay for a ring.

 

[Doomsday101]

Die by drowning or die by shotgun blast. You're still dead, might as well take the less painful way to die. By letting him walk you have a chance of getting a good QB without crippling your team by the salary cap.

EDIT: and it has already been proven you don't need a great QB to win a Superbowl. Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer, Eli Manning.

It is hard to find good QB. It does not come as a shock that a rivals fans would let the QB walk. :laugh2:

I do think the Giants over paid but then I think the vast majority of players are over paid in this case they retain their starting QB at the very least instead of spending the next few season playing the QB search game.

 

[YosemiteSam]

It is hard to find good QB. It does not come as a shock that a rivals fans would let the QB walk. :laugh2:

I do think the Giants over paid but then I think the vast majority of players are over paid in this case they retain their starting QB at the very least instead of spending the next few season playing the QB search game.

I agree. I just think they could have gotten him for less. I'm quite sure no other team would have paid anywhere near that much except for probably the Raiders. Maybe they were just trying to prevent the Raiders from signing him! :laugh2:

Of course that couldn't happen considering how much money they already have tied up in a QB among other things.

 

[Rampage]

If you guys wanna talk about Eli getting lucky in the superbowl than talk about the Asante Samuel dropped pick on that game winning drive.

 

[aikemirv]

I don't agree that Eli was "lucky" though. The Tyree catch certainly fits that bill but the rest of the playoffs was far from luck. In 4 games (3 on the road) he only had 1 int, against the 2 'best' teams in the NFC and arguably one of the best teams in NFL history with the Pats.

Did you consider the drive at the end of the half against you guys luck?

That drive at the end of the half was one of the worst defensive performances I have seen.

I don't think Eli had one tough pass that whole drive. Guys were so wide open it was sickening.

Eli is a good QB and he does well if his running game is working well. If not Eli is not going to get you there, period.

 

[Idgit]

That's crazy money for Eli Manning.

 

[Stash]

I think you could look at every great Super Bowl run and identify a lucky play that helped with the outcome of the game. The tyree catch was just on the greatest stage, in the final seconds, against one of the best NFL teams of all time so it stands out.

Possibly, there's an expression that goes "sometimes it's better to be lucky than good". That was certainly the case that day.

The tyree catch should not diminish the Giants super bowl run but I understand as a Cowboys fan, or any rival, why you want it to.

It is what it is. The Giants got hot at the right time and they won a championship. We can argue over situations and cirtcumstances but it doesn't change the end result. The Giants won the Super Bowl.

Anyway time will tell the outcome of this contract but I think there are few GM's who would have done differently.

Definitely, and Resse's recent track record gives him benefit of the doubt.

 

[Kilyin]

If you guys wanna talk about Eli getting lucky in the superbowl than talk about the Asante Samuel dropped pick on that game winning drive.

I recall a few dropped ints. Eli just got lucky. He could've easily been the scapegoat instead of the hero. And there's no way he's worth that much money.

 

[GMen86]

That's crazy money for Eli Manning.

Not crazy when you compare to what Romo is getting paid. He signed in 07' and hadn't proven anything (still hasn't), except nice stats.

He too is paid more than Brady and is no way a better QB. It is all about timing IMO.

 

[theogt]

Not crazy when you compare to what Romo is getting paid. He signed in 07' and hadn't proven anything (still hasn't), except nice stats.

He too is paid more than Brady and is no way a better QB. It is all about timing IMO.

Is that something akin to the line "All he does is score touchdowns?"

 

[casmith07]

Well it will help them somewhere down the line....

We get better player for less. Sweet deal.
And when the CAP $$$ flutter back from TO's deal we will be sitting pretty.

After this season, we're going to be looking really good with the cap. Don't forget Greg Ellis and Roy Williams as well.

 

[GMen86]

Is that something akin to the line "All he does is score touchdowns?"

He hasn't when it counts the most and is paid more than Brady.

Like I said, contracts are as much about timing as they are about talent.

 

[Stash]

Like I said, contracts are as much about timing as they are about talent.

I think that's a very good point.

And very accurate.

 

[AbeBeta]

Manning's arrow started going up at the right time. He does benefit from a great D - but he was lights out the year they won the SB (i.e., when it COUNTS). You don't find many QBs who can do that so when you do, no matter how far he is from reaching his potential, no matter how much he doesn't live up to his brother or father's play, and no matter how ugly he is, you gotta lock him up.

 

[BIGDen]

watch him struggle without Burress.I really think they will struggle offensively this year.

Me too. Especially againts good, pressure-applying D's like ours. So what's that now? A couple of hundred million on above-average-at-best Canty and Eli? Nice.

 

[Aikbach]

I would've taken a measly 20 million, am I not basement prices...for basement play but still, at least you get what you pay for.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Not crazy when you compare to what Romo is getting paid. He signed in 07' and hadn't proven anything (still hasn't), except nice stats.

He too is paid more than Brady and is no way a better QB. It is all about timing IMO.

Romo is a playmaker, Eli is a game manager. Anyhow, Romo signed for $67.5M not $97M. Romo kept the team in mind when he signed.

 

[Rampage]

He hasn't when it counts the most and is paid more than Brady.

Like I said, contracts are as much about timing as they are about talent.

While I agree with you I just want to point out 1 thing. every position needs help from his teammates to succeed. In 2007 the Giants superbowl run Eli got 2 thing that Romo has never had.

#1 consistent and above average play from his o-line

#2 consistent and top play from his defense

you take away the one year where Eli got that help and he's in the same boat as Romo is regarding playoff wins.