Manson Parole Hearing April 11

[Doomsday101]

Manson gets a parole hearing because they are legally required to hold it. He could sprout angel wings and play the harp and they'd never let him out. And rightfully so.

I understand that same goes for Susan Atkins (passed away), Linda Kasabian, and Patricia Krenwinkel.

They were sentenced to death but because the death penalty was over turned in Cal. they got life and I think most expect they should serve for the remainder of their lives.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

I understand that same goes for Susan Atkins (passed away), Linda Kasabian, and Patricia Krenwinkel.

They were sentenced to death but because the death penalty was over turned in Cal. they got life and I think most expect they should serve for the remainder of their lives.

I have more sympathy for the girls mostly because they were duped by Charlie and were not of sound mind.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

And he posts on the Extreme Skins boards.

or extremecowboyszone.com?

 

[Doomsday101]

I have more sympathy for the girls mostly because they were duped by Charlie and were not of sound mind.

I have none for them. By all rights they should have been put to death. We make choices in our lives they made their now pay for it.

 

[zrinkill]

I have more sympathy for the girls mostly because they were duped by Charlie and were not of sound mind.

Give me a break.

Tate begged for her child's life, pleading that the group abduct Tate and let her give birth before murdering her. Atkins testified that she replied to Tate, "Look, *****, I have no mercy for you. You and your baby are going to die and you'd better get used to it." Atkins and Watson then stabbed her to death.

 

[Doomsday101]

Give me a break.

I'm willing to make a compromise. When the people who run the cemetery give Parole to the victims then I'll support the parole of the Manson family

 

[zrinkill]

People like CanadianCowboysFan will say stuff like "it was the drugs that made them do it"


Yet they remained faithful to Manson throughout the trial and into the first few years of their incarcerations

Only when their death sentence was changed to life in prison and they had the chance of parole did they suddenly abandon Manson and decide to "change their lives" and look for forgiveness.

Its sickening.

 

[Doomsday101]

People like CanadianCowboysFan will say stuff like "it was the drugs that made them do it"


Yet they remained faithful to Manson throughout the trial and into the first few years of their incarcerations

Only when their death sentence was changed to life in prison and they had the chance of parole did they suddenly abandon Manson and decide to change their lives.

Its sickening.

Drug deal is a non starter with me. People talk about legalizing them and then make excuses for those who get high and kill someone. You had control when you choose to do drugs your actions afterward falls on the person.

 

[casmith07]

Drug deal is a non starter with me. People talk about legalizing them and then make excuses for those who get high and kill someone. You had control when you choose to do drugs your actions afterward falls on the person.

Unfortunately, the law disagrees in many states.

Some states don't excuse crime from involuntary incapacitation, but in many states, incapacitation, whether voluntary or involuntary, is an affirmative defense in lieu of guilt.

It generally doesn't result in an acquittal, mind you, but it can work as a mitigation defense and lessen a sentence.

 

[casmith07]

Who in the world would defend him?

Everyone is entitled to due process.

 

[Doomsday101]

Unfortunately, the law disagrees in many states.

Some states don't excuse crime from involuntary incapacitation, but in many states, incapacitation, whether voluntary or involuntary, is an affirmative defense in lieu of guilt.

It generally doesn't result in an acquittal, mind you, but it can work as a mitigation defense and lessen a sentence.

I fully understand that. I only voiced my opinion on it. I don't buy it as an excuse. We all have the options of not doing it so if you choose to do it then suffer the consequence of your own actions. Just the way I feel

 

[casmith07]

I fully understand that. I only voiced my opinion on it. I don't buy it as an excuse. We all have the options of not doing it so if you choose to do it then suffer the consequence of your own actions. Just the way I feel

Oh I don't buy it either. I don't think voluntary incapacitation should be a defense whatsoever. Just spitting a little knowledge for the board

 

[Doomsday101]

Oh I don't buy it either. I don't think voluntary incapacitation should be a defense whatsoever. Just spitting a little knowledge for the board

That's cool. I did not take it as you defending it but it is that way and it shouldn't be. Because a person can't control their own actions when they do drugs or drink should not be an excuse for lesser punishment. To me it starts with the 1st choice you made.

In the case of the Manson family I have no sympathy for them what so ever, even if drug's were a factor. Their victims begged for their lives and these people butchered them and made a mockery of the court while on trial. No remorse what so ever.

 

[casmith07]

That's cool. I did not take it as you defending it but it is that way and it shouldn't be. Because a person can't control their own actions when they do drugs or drink should not be an excuse for lesser punishment. To me it starts with the 1st choice you made.

In the case of the Manson family I have no sympathy for them what so ever, even if drug's were a factor. Their victims begged for their lives and these people butchered them and made a mockery of the court while on trial. No remorse what so ever.

Nope. This story really didn't even need to be posted. He's staying in prison until he croaks.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

I have more sympathy for the girls mostly because they were duped by Charlie and were not of sound mind.

WTH are you talking about? Even you can't be serious about that.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Give me a break.

Tate begged for her child's life, pleading that the group abduct Tate and let her give birth before murdering her. Atkins testified that she replied to Tate, "Look, *****, I have no mercy for you. You and your baby are going to die and you'd better get used to it." Atkins and Watson then stabbed her to death.

do you understand what brainwashing is?

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

WTH are you talking about? Even you can't be serious about that.

they have been in prison for over 40 years, they have done their time in my view, especially in the circumstances of how they were brainwashed, under influence of psychotic drugs etc

does keeping them in jail now really serve a purpose?

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

I have none for them. By all rights they should have been put to death. We make choices in our lives they made their now pay for it.

what if the choice wasn't voluntary?

 

[Cajuncowboy]

do you understand what brainwashing is?

Do you understand what making a choice is? They weren't brainwashed. They were a bunch of misfits and wannabe hippie drug addicts that wanted to make a name for themselves. And they chose Manson as their leader. Was Al Capone's henchmen brainwashed as well?

 

[Cajuncowboy]

they have been in prison for over 40 years, they have done their time in my view, especially in the circumstances of how they were brainwashed, under influence of psychotic drugs etc

does keeping them in jail now really serve a purpose?

They were supposed to be killed. They should have been. So now, they have life in prison. Life is LIFE. And yes, it does serve a purpose to keep them there. The families of the victims at least know they are locked up and not enjoying life that they denied to their loved ones.