Manson Parole Hearing April 11

[CanadianCowboysFan]

It is called punishment for their crime. They were given the death penalty the only reason they are alive is the death penalty was done away with in Cal in 1972 so all the sentence became life in prison. The mother of sharron tate continued to be at every hearing every year she was alive Sharron Tate sister now goes to every single hearing. Those victims were not given a chance yet the killers should be?

laws change, you keep focussing on fact that California got out of the stone age and did away with the death penalty, who cares.

do you not think 44 years in prison is not punishment for a crime?

 

[Cajuncowboy]

you know the world is not black and white as you believe it is, they killed, they have done their time,

No, they haven't. They got life after the death penalty was overturned. So no, they haven't done their time. When they die in jail, then they will have done their time.

ask yourself, if they were soldiers acting on orders, would you want them to be in jail forever?

You are one seriously flawed individual.

 

[Doomsday101]

you people are focussing way too much on the fact Tate was pregnant, it was an aggravating factor but at the end of the day, not all that relevant to whether or not her killers have served an appropriate amount of time.

I'm not focused on tate being pregnant. They were given death they ended up with life that is the punishement. appropriate amount of time? easy LIFE

 

[Cajuncowboy]

you people are focussing way too much on the fact Tate was pregnant, it was an aggravating factor but at the end of the day, not all that relevant to whether or not her killers have served an appropriate amount of time.

Holy ****! This would be so if it wasn't so sad there are people that have this mentality.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

CCF, I like you, I think you're fairly level-headed...but hang on just a second:



That is almost assuredly not true, because they are serial killers/psychotic.



Protecting the greater safety of society.



As a military man, yes. Everyone has a duty to disregard unlawful orders, and I think in basic morality, that duty extends to civilians as well to disregard requests for unlawful action.

There's a crime for that, it's called solicitation.

Not sure you can call them serial killers only because it was a one off thing, they killed more than one at the time, not in a series of murders.

I don't see 70+ year old women as threats to society.

Leave them in or let them out, no skin off my nose as my life won't be affected in the least, but they aren't a threat.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

No, they haven't. They got life after the death penalty was overturned. So no, they haven't done their time. When they die in jail, then they will have done their time.

You are one seriously flawed individual.

you really need to stop projecting

 

[Doomsday101]

laws change, you keep focussing on fact that California got out of the stone age and did away with the death penalty, who cares.

do you not think 44 years in prison is not punishment for a crime?

No I don't think 44 years is enough their victims do not get a reprieve why should their killers get a reprieve to enjoy life.

What they are getting now is plain and simple punishment for what they did.


I find it strange how some can put such little value on the life of the victim. These people did nothing to provoke their killing and when they begged for their own life they got butchered so why should the killers now walk free.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

No I don't think 44 years is enough their victims do not get a reprieve why should their killers get a reprieve to enjoy life.

What they are getting now is plain and simple punishment for what they did.


I find it strange how some can put such little value on the life of the victim. These people did nothing to provoke their killing and when they begged for their own life they got butchered so why should the killers now walk free.

it is hard to say they are walking free after 44 years in the clink,

 

[Doomsday101]

Not sure you can call them serial killers only because it was a one off thing, they killed more than one at the time, not in a series of murders.

I don't see 70+ year old women as threats to society.

Leave them in or let them out, no skin off my nose as my life won't be affected in the least, but they aren't a threat.

They are no threat and they are not free either. That right was taken from them for what they did.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

you really need to stop projecting

You really need to stop posting. You sound like an ignoramus.

 

[Doomsday101]

it is hard to say they are walking free after 44 years in the clink,

They are able to enjoy many things the victims no longer can. They are not free and should not be free. See that is the punishment

 

[Cajuncowboy]

No I don't think 44 years is enough their victims do not get a reprieve why should their killers get a reprieve to enjoy life.

What they are getting now is plain and simple punishment for what they did.


I find it strange how some can put such little value on the life of the victim. These people did nothing to provoke their killing and when they begged for their own life they got butchered so why should the killers now walk free.

Here's the bottom line. Let's call a spade a spade.

These kind of people don't care about real victims. They give victim status to the perpetrators as seen in the despicable posts in this thread. personally, I think they should share in the perpetrators shame for taking these positions. These are the type of people that have driven society to where it is today. They value the life of the evil above that of the innocent. It is prevalent in many areas of our society. They are the cause of most of societies ills and will continue to be. It is a shame they exist like they do but we have to deal with them.

 

[vta]

you people are focussing way too much on the fact Tate was pregnant, it was an aggravating factor but at the end of the day, not all that relevant to whether or not her killers have served an appropriate amount of time.

It's entirely relevant to the level of empathy/sympathy lacking in the savage and entirely relevant in how to base a good judgement of the savage doing the killing.

It may not have been advanced as a double murder in Tate's case, but pregnancy has every bit of relevancy on how a murder is charged.

And even if no one were pregnant, it was still nothing more than a jolly killing by savages who entirely lack sympathy and are not in anyway to be afforded such a thing. Dying of prostate or breast cancer in a controlled environment is far more grace than they deserve.

 

[casmith07]

Not sure you can call them serial killers only because it was a one off thing, they killed more than one at the time, not in a series of murders.

I don't see 70+ year old women as threats to society.

Leave them in or let them out, no skin off my nose as my life won't be affected in the least, but they aren't a threat.

I fail to see how one who has shown a psychotic propensity to kill is not still a threat.

If it were a one off crime of passion? No. Participating in a systematic killing spree? No thanks. Leave em in. They're still a threat to repeat the same offense or incite someone else to do it for them.

 

[Jammer]

they have been in prison for over 40 years, they have done their time in my view, especially in the circumstances of how they were brainwashed, under influence of psychotic drugs etc

does keeping them in jail now really serve a purpose?

I'm against the death penalty in all forms, but when it's life in prison, it's life in prison. Getting a warm fuzzy with people after they've served so many years is why a lot of people don't want life behind bars, but death, because death is final. As a sentence of life behind bars should be.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

It's entirely relevant to the level of empathy/sympathy lacking in the savage and entirely relevant in how to base a good judgement of the savage doing the killing.

It may not have been advanced as a double murder in Tate's case, but pregnancy has every bit of relevancy on how a murder is charged.

And even if no one were pregnant, it was still nothing more than a jolly killing by savages who entirely lack sympathy and are not in anyway to be afforded such a thing. Dying of prostate or breast cancer in a controlled environment is far more grace than they deserve.

I appreciate your view but the murders are 44 years old, they were young and dumb when they happened, they are seniors now. There's probably a greater chance of Zrinkill and Cajun going postal at work than them killing again.

I really don't care if they get out or not, won't have any effect on me but I can't see how they are the same people now they were oh those many years ago.

In the end of course, it is all moot, no parole board would ever have the stones to let them out even on supervised day parole.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

I appreciate your view but the murders are 44 years old, they were young and dumb when they happened, they are seniors now. There's probably a greater chance of Zrinkill and Cajun going postal at work than them killing again.

I really don't care if they get out or not, won't have any effect on me but I can't see how they are the same people now they were oh those many years ago.

In the end of course, it is all moot, no parole board would ever have the stones to let them out even on supervised day parole.

Would you hire them to work with you?

Oh, and are going to stop by my office anytime soon?

 

[arglebargle]

Before I'd give any one of these folks a serious consideration of parole and probation, I would want to talk to every single prison worker who deals with them every day, and from whom they'd have great difficulty hiding their true nature.

Not Manson though. He needs to be locked away forever.

Serious focus should be on the violent types both in prison and out.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

He will never breathe free air again. Nor should he.

This. Once again the criminal justice shows its an utter joke if they let this clown out.

 

[silverbear]

A parole hearing is scheduled April 11 for Manson, who was initially sentenced to death for the 1969 slayings of actress Sharon Tate and six others by a group of his followers as part of what prosecutors said was an attempt to incite a race war. His death sentence was changed to life in prison after California's death penalty was overturned for a period during the 1970s.

Manson may choose not to attend the hearing. The last time he appeared at his parole hearing was 15 years ago. He has been denied parole 11 times.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/04/justice/california-charles-manson/index.html?hpt=hp_c3

They should let him out, he's served enough time... the poor man clearly needs the services of a good barber...

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