Marshall Faulk's night ruined?

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DTK;3163212 said:
I agree that football players in general should make better experts than the average joe that watches football. The problem with that is that it's a false generalization. Just because the guy played and was great, doesn't make him great at analyzing it. Not all great players make great coaches or great GM's.

The problem with these networks is they rush out to hire the great players as soon as they retire and hope they help their ratings. Look at guys like Faulk, Emmitt, Gannon, etc. Being a star doesn't equate to knowing the game or the English language for that matter. Some of the better experts weren't stars: Solomon Wilcotts, Collinsworth (though he was good, but he also has a JD which shows he's intelligent), Millen, Green, etc. My favorite color guy is Dan Fouts, so that shows that stars can be good analyst. But you have to also be educated, something Faulk appears to be lacking. I'm sure he has a degree, but to say what he said proves his common sense is very low.

Nice rebuttal. :)

Oh, I agree with some of what you said, particularly who is hired.

I guess I object to the over-generalization of the criticism, especially when someone criticizes the Cowboys.

I don't think every ex-player makes a great commentator. But I respect them if they have some insight about the game or what goes on in the locker room and I don't dismiss it as "Cowboys hate."

Now I do believe they are told to work the Cowboys into the program because the Cowboys have a universal love-hate relationship in America and whether Cowboys fans like it or not, people love the Cowboys even as people love to hate the Cowboys.

And, Emmitt Smith didn't make a good analyst. :D
 

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Star4Ever;3162709 said:
I sent an email to the NFL Network pointing out how unprofessional and embarrassing Faulk's "analysis" has become. Sure it won't do any good but it made me feel better. I urge everyone on here to do the same. Again, I'm sure it won't do any good but at least they will know how stupid Faulk appears to many viewers.

All you've done is fed the fire. They Know viewers like yourself are going to tune in to see what they can say to enrage you next week. They don't care what side of the fence you're on as long as you're watching. It's been long known on the journalism world that the Cowboys sell. You don't have to say anything good OR bad about them for it to be effective, you just have to feature them. You're e-mail just gave dumbfaulk another 10 minutes of face time.
 

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he's a little awesome person. I wouldn't expect better from that ignoramus. *** him.
 

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dfense;3163171 said:
I'd really have to disagree with you on Tom Jackson. He's a pretty professional guy.

Especially when MeShawn, Carter and Berman sitting next to him. He's probably the most respectable guy there.

You obviously don't watch him very often. He's as bad if not worse than Marshall Faulk when it comes to the Cowboys. He's OK with all other teams, but he has deep seated hatred towards the Cowboys. Super Bowl XII must still be with him.
 

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skinsscalper;3163275 said:
All you've done is fed the fire. They Know viewers like yourself are going to tune in to see what they can say to enrage you next week. They don't care what side of the fence you're on as long as you're watching. It's been long known on the journalism world that the Cowboys sell. You don't have to say anything good OR bad about them for it to be effective, you just have to feature them. You're e-mail just gave dumbfaulk another 10 minutes of face time.

That's your opinion and we all know the saying about opinions. I want myself to be heard (or read in this case). They can do with it what they will.
 

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During Dallas 13-3 season, I was listening to KTCK in Dallas and one of the commentators said he wanted to open up a subject for a segment ... why does it seem like 90% of the people who are constantly criticizing Romo, even in a Pro Bowl season, seem to be black? He opened it up for phones to black Cowboy fans to say anything they want to say and clear the air, and for 45 minutes black callers called in saying they hate Tony Romo because they felt he's been handed everything in Dallas too easy (you know, he's never had to work for anything ... other than a roster spot, since he was an undrafted free agent). They said if a black QB is a "gunslinger" he's run out of town, like Quincy Carter was. This was before any December meltdowns or anything, this was already boiling under the surface.

Now fast forward to the TO vs Witten/Romo debacle of last year, and for 5 straight months I listened to Dallas sports talk as black caller after black caller tried to frame the issue into "Strong black athlete is run out of town to save golden boy white quarterback." Five straight months of call after call, this isn't a figment of imagination. This undercurrent exists in Dallas. Whether it makes anyone uncomfortable or not, it's there. If you want to ignore it because you would rather not deal with it, fine. But don't call it a figment of anyone's imagination. Now is it carrying over to former black athletes who are constantly criticizing Romo, to an almost an irrational and ridiculous rate? That's for you to decide. I think it's weird behavior for Tony Dorsett to come out and publicly lambasts Romo after a friggin loss in September. I think it's weird how every person who comes out and tears Romo down in the media to an irrational, seething level is a black former athlete. Faulk made a point to point out how TO was run out of town and smirkingly said the offense was "Romo friendly" just on Sunday. I think it's weird how Marriuci is the only guy on the entire NFLN crew who will ever say anything positive about Tony Romo, even though we're talking about a QB who is the only guy who will open up his first four seasons as a QB with a 90+ QB rating. Other guys haven't won big games before (What has Brees really ever won? What has Aaron Rogers ever won?). There's something more personal and bias about about the Romo hatred that goes beyond the rational mind. If you don't think it's race, fine. But it's something.
 

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Star4Ever;3163481 said:
You obviously don't watch him very often. He's as bad if not worse than Marshall Faulk when it comes to the Cowboys. He's OK with all other teams, but he has deep seated hatred towards the Cowboys. Super Bowl XII must still be with him.
He's got such a hard-on for McNabb too.
 

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Star4Ever;3163500 said:
That's your opinion and we all know the saying about opinions. I want myself to be heard (or read in this case). They can do with it what they will.

It's all good. Be heard all you want. But the point of being "being heard", in the first place, is to foster change. E-mails like that work against what you're trying to accomplish. They know you're going to tune in next week to see if you've "been heard". That's all that matters to a network or radio station. Just keep you watching/listening at all costs. The best way to make you tune in is to enrage you. If it bleeds, it leads.
 

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InmanRoshi;3163551 said:
During Dallas 13-3 season, I was listening to KTCK in Dallas and one of the commentators said he wanted to open up a subject for a segment ... why does it seem like 90% of the people who are constantly criticizing Romo, even in a Pro Bowl season, seem to be black? He opened it up for phones to black Cowboy fans to say anything they want to say and clear the air, and for 45 minutes black callers called in saying they hate Tony Romo because they felt he's been handed everything in Dallas too easy (you know, he's never had to work for anything ... other than a roster spot, since he was an undrafted free agent). They said if a black QB is a "gunslinger" he's run out of town, like Quincy Carter was. This was before any December meltdowns or anything, this was already boiling under the surface.

Now fast forward to the TO vs Witten/Romo debacle of last year, and for 5 straight months I listened to Dallas sports talk as black caller after black caller tried to frame the issue into "Strong black athlete is run out of town to save golden boy white quarterback." Five straight months of call after call, this isn't a figment of imagination. This undercurrent exists in Dallas. Whether it makes anyone uncomfortable or not, it's there. If you want to ignore it because you would rather not deal with it, fine. But don't call it a figment of anyone's imagination. Now is it carrying over to former black athletes who are constantly criticizing Romo, to an almost an irrational and ridiculous rate? That's for you to decide. I think it's weird behavior for Tony Dorsett to come out and publicly lambasts Romo after a friggin loss in September. I think it's weird how every person who comes out and tears Romo down in the media to an irrational, seething level is a black former athlete. Faulk made a point to point out how TO was run out of town and smirkingly said the offense was "Romo friendly" just on Sunday. I think it's weird how Marriuci is the only guy on the entire NFLN crew who will ever say anything positive about Tony Romo, even though we're talking about a QB who is the only guy who will open up his first four seasons as a QB with a 90+ QB rating. Other guys haven't won big games before (What has Brees really ever won? What has Aaron Rogers ever won?). There's something more personal and bias about about the Romo hatred that goes beyond the rational mind. If you don't think it's race, fine. But it's something.

This is where you get your "black athletes are racist against Romo" views from? Some talk show where the host shut everything down and specifically asked race obsessed people to call in?

Your argument is self defeating as soon as you bring up Brees. Brees replaced a black QB and a franchise cornerstone receiver, Joe Horn (who is black), was jettisoned for pretty much the same reason as TO (loud, once good but aging and expensive) and has somehow escaped the "racist former athletes and coaches".
 

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This has nothing to do with race ..... its all due to him being the Cowboys QB.
 

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InmanRoshi;3163551 said:
During Dallas 13-3 season, I was listening to KTCK in Dallas and one of the commentators said he wanted to open up a subject for a segment ... why does it seem like 90% of the people who are constantly criticizing Romo, even in a Pro Bowl season, seem to be black? He opened it up for phones to black Cowboy fans to say anything they want to say and clear the air, and for 45 minutes black callers called in saying they hate Tony Romo because they felt he's been handed everything in Dallas too easy (you know, he's never had to work for anything ... other than a roster spot, since he was an undrafted free agent). They said if a black QB is a "gunslinger" he's run out of town, like Quincy Carter was. This was before any December meltdowns or anything, this was already boiling under the surface.

Now fast forward to the TO vs Witten/Romo debacle of last year, and for 5 straight months I listened to Dallas sports talk as black caller after black caller tried to frame the issue into "Strong black athlete is run out of town to save golden boy white quarterback." Five straight months of call after call, this isn't a figment of imagination. This undercurrent exists in Dallas. Whether it makes anyone uncomfortable or not, it's there. If you want to ignore it because you would rather not deal with it, fine. But don't call it a figment of anyone's imagination. Now is it carrying over to former black athletes who are constantly criticizing Romo, to an almost an irrational and ridiculous rate? That's for you to decide. I think it's weird behavior for Tony Dorsett to come out and publicly lambasts Romo after a friggin loss in September. I think it's weird how every person who comes out and tears Romo down in the media to an irrational, seething level is a black former athlete. Faulk made a point to point out how TO was run out of town and smirkingly said the offense was "Romo friendly" just on Sunday. I think it's weird how Marriuci is the only guy on the entire NFLN crew who will ever say anything positive about Tony Romo, even though we're talking about a QB who is the only guy who will open up his first four seasons as a QB with a 90+ QB rating. Other guys haven't won big games before (What has Brees really ever won? What has Aaron Rogers ever won?). There's something more personal and bias about about the Romo hatred that goes beyond the rational mind. If you don't think it's race, fine. But it's something.


Uh, so what does all that have to do with Tony Dungy? :huh: :rolleyes:
 

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InmanRoshi;3163551 said:
During Dallas 13-3 season, I was listening to KTCK in Dallas and one of the commentators said he wanted to open up a subject for a segment ... why does it seem like 90% of the people who are constantly criticizing Romo, even in a Pro Bowl season, seem to be black? He opened it up for phones to black Cowboy fans to say anything they want to say and clear the air, and for 45 minutes black callers called in saying they hate Tony Romo because they felt he's been handed everything in Dallas too easy (you know, he's never had to work for anything ... other than a roster spot, since he was an undrafted free agent). They said if a black QB is a "gunslinger" he's run out of town, like Quincy Carter was. This was before any December meltdowns or anything, this was already boiling under the surface.

Now fast forward to the TO vs Witten/Romo debacle of last year, and for 5 straight months I listened to Dallas sports talk as black caller after black caller tried to frame the issue into "Strong black athlete is run out of town to save golden boy white quarterback." Five straight months of call after call, this isn't a figment of imagination. This undercurrent exists in Dallas. Whether it makes anyone uncomfortable or not, it's there. If you want to ignore it because you would rather not deal with it, fine. But don't call it a figment of anyone's imagination. Now is it carrying over to former black athletes who are constantly criticizing Romo, to an almost an irrational and ridiculous rate? That's for you to decide. I think it's weird behavior for Tony Dorsett to come out and publicly lambasts Romo after a friggin loss in September. I think it's weird how every person who comes out and tears Romo down in the media to an irrational, seething level is a black former athlete. Faulk made a point to point out how TO was run out of town and smirkingly said the offense was "Romo friendly" just on Sunday. I think it's weird how Marriuci is the only guy on the entire NFLN crew who will ever say anything positive about Tony Romo, even though we're talking about a QB who is the only guy who will open up his first four seasons as a QB with a 90+ QB rating. Other guys haven't won big games before (What has Brees really ever won? What has Aaron Rogers ever won?). There's something more personal and bias about about the Romo hatred that goes beyond the rational mind. If you don't think it's race, fine. But it's something.


Maybe I'm wrong but I thought Romo was Hispanic.
 
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