Martin and Turpin make inaugural Players' All Pro team

conner01

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6th in average per punt return, 7th per kick return. And has dropped off a cliff the last 6 weeks. But by all means, keep telling me how elite he is.
5th in yards per return and .5 from top 3
His combined is elite
The top KR and PR are not the same
 

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Good comments. Especially this one. And thank you for engaging in a reasonable discussion.

I'm not trying to bash him but it's difficult for me to say he's the best RG in football when I don't see him making a big difference. That's all. Just a fair assessment of current play not a historically tainted version.
Like I said get your eyesight checked
 

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That's extremely rare for all-pro (questionable selections). It's more common with pro bowl especially "alternates"


Teller and Mason actually graded out at career lows this year (you could argue both had the worst years of their entire careers). They also have the disadvantage of playing for a team that didn't make the playoffs (which is factored in sometimes when there's a couple players with similar levels of play) and Teller had 6 penalties which is quite a bit for an interior lineman (Martin had 1 penalty this year and has 6 combined in the last 4 seasons)

Even Quenton Nelson on the other side of the line allowed 5 sacks, had 5 penalties, and had career low rating (2023 wasn't a good year for guards)
Nelson had a really bad year. True that guards seemed to fall off this year IF YOU BELIEVE PFF player ratings which I never have.
 

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Parsons' reaction to those voting results from his peers? "F*** that list!"
Man I’m in playoff mode **** that list! Congrats to those that made it tho! They deserve it !

The 2021 Defensive Rookie of the Year got off to a dominant start in 2022, racking up 12 sacks and 13 tackles for loss through 11 games. But Parsons' production dipped down the stretch with 1.5 sacks and one tackle for loss over Dallas' final six games.

his mouth is as big as his motor lol
 
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