Matt Cassel was worse than advertised

Floatyworm

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Going into the game, I thought we had a good chance to win the game. I guess I was wrong, because you don't win many games in the NFL by kicking 4 field goals. They were in Seahawks territory most of the game, but couldn't produce.

Let's first dispel the myth teams respect Cassel's deep ball. That is a complete and utter fantasy. He can't throw a deep ball, period. He has a lot of grip issues, and his arm strength has deteriorated. Dez had a step on Richard Sherman a number of times. Cassel nearly threw 3 INTs that I counted, but he was bailed out by his wideouts. The reason for the improved run game is that the team is simply blocking better. That's it.

He stares down the primary read for too long, and then is late delivering the ball to other options. I thought Cassel would be a better game manager at this point in his career, but it is painfully obvious that he is a severely limited quarterback.

I don't see any improvement, spark, or anything intangible from Matt Cassel that Brandon Weeden wasn't giving us. Let me be clear, Brandon Weeden is a terrible NFL QB, but Cassel isn't any better.

Well Bob....If your admitting your wrong.....I guess that makes Floaty correct then? Welcome to the Kellen Moore band wagon:dance: Your a month late...but better late than never.....:)
 

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Well Bob....If your admitting your wrong.....I guess that makes Floaty correct then? Welcome to the Kellen Moore band wagon:dance: Your a month late...but better late than never.....:)

No, I've been saying there's a reason why he couldn't beat out Manuel or Tyrod Taylor in buffalo. I thought he was a better game manager and I didn't know his arm strength was gone.
 

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Going into the game, I thought we had a good chance to win the game. I guess I was wrong, because you don't win many games in the NFL by kicking 4 field goals. They were in Seahawks territory most of the game, but couldn't produce.

Let's first dispel the myth teams respect Cassel's deep ball. That is a complete and utter fantasy. He can't throw a deep ball, period. He has a lot of grip issues, and his arm strength has deteriorated. Dez had a step on Richard Sherman a number of times. Cassel nearly threw 3 INTs that I counted, but he was bailed out by his wideouts. The reason for the improved run game is that the team is simply blocking better. That's it.

He stares down the primary read for too long, and then is late delivering the ball to other options. I thought Cassel would be a better game manager at this point in his career, but it is painfully obvious that he is a severely limited quarterback.

I don't see any improvement, spark, or anything intangible from Matt Cassel that Brandon Weeden wasn't giving us. Let me be clear, Brandon Weeden is a terrible NFL QB, but Cassel isn't any better.

I agree, very very very disappointed in what Cassel has done. I would much rather have the guy taking some chances against NY then check down Charlie of the Seattle game. Instead of working with him on fixing the mistakes or timing of the 3 bad plays against NY, they neutered him and made him Weeden. You already have one guy like that, there is no need for a second.
 

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The play at the end of the game where he took the sack and loss instead of throwing the ball away told me all I needed to know about Matt Cassel... Sigh...

Also....his plays after Hardy's gift made me done with him. Make a doggone play!!!! Beyond pathetic. I don't give a dag what they called from the sideline. Your 14 years are USELESS!
 

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ha ha. What did we really expect? Wasted a low round draft pick on this guy.

Geez ... who would have known?
 

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ha ha. What did we really expect? Wasted a low round draft pick on this guy.

Geez ... who would have known?

So the Broncos shouldn't expect much from Vernon Davis I guess based on this logic..
 

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I agree, very very very disappointed in what Cassel has done. I would much rather have the guy taking some chances against NY then check down Charlie of the Seattle game. Instead of working with him on fixing the mistakes or timing of the 3 bad plays against NY, they neutered him and made him Weeden. You already have one guy like that, there is no need for a second.

That duck he threw to a wide-open Williams in the Giants game is not "taking chances." It is simply throwing a ball up in the air and hoping. That ball was not only a dying duck, it was incredibly late and should never have been thrown to begin with. If you really look at the tape, this guy isn't being more aggressive with his down-the-field throws, he's just being incredibly careless. He is pretending to be more aggressive. But he ain't seeing ****.
 

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That duck he threw to a wide-open Williams in the Giants game is not "taking chances." It is simply throwing a ball up in the air and hoping. That ball was not only a dying duck, it was incredibly late and should never have been thrown to begin with. If you really look at the tape, this guy isn't being more aggressive with his down-the-field throws, he's just being incredibly careless. He is pretending to be more aggressive. But he ain't seeing ****.

Only Eli gets away with those
 

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in the nfl you cannot hide the qb until whoever can make throws and find receivers they will continue to lose with out a qb you do not win you can look in cassel's eyes and see the fear so no he is not going to succeed
 

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Cassel is even more disappointing thus far than Weeden only because I expected that Cassel could play a little better than Weeden. Instead he's almost a clone of Weeden in how inept he is at the position and how awful this offense is with him.
 

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Cassel is even more disappointing thus far than Weeden only because I expected that Cassel could play a little better than Weeden. Instead he's almost a clone of Weeden in how inept he is at the position and how awful this offense is with him.

Weeden played without Dez Bryant or a running game. I'd like to see how Weeden plays with both McFadden and Bryant starting. Cassel has a noodle arm and is a joke. If Cassel doesn't beat the Eagles then he should be cut immediately after the game.
 

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To win any game without Romo, especially today vs Philly, we need the defense to hold them to 20 points or less; we need special teams to hold their own, and we need the offense to find the end zone and protect the ball.

I fear Philly will turn up the pressure on Cassell with blitzes and disguised coverages. There will be opportunities for big plays, but Philly will gamble that Cassell will turn the ball over.
 

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To prove what point? Cut Cassel and you have to put Weeds back in there and no one wants to see that.

I think at that time, it's time to see what @Floaty's boy Kellen Moore has.
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I am not defending Cassel because the jury is still out for me with him, but did you catch the announcers stat late in third quarter saying Cassel only made one attempt over 10 yards, that is only one attempted throw regardless of completion, even though the week before he tried numerous mid to deep throws. That tells me the coaching staff got it in his head to check down if even a hint of someone not being WIDE OPEN. That screams fear, and shame on the coaching staff because you can't win playing under fear.
 

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I am not defending Cassel because the jury is still out for me with him, but did you catch the announcers stat late in third quarter saying Cassel only made one attempt over 10 yards, that is only one attempted throw regardless of completion, even though the week before he tried numerous mid to deep throws. That tells me the coaching staff got it in his head to check down if even a hint of someone not being WIDE OPEN. That screams fear, and shame on the coaching staff because you can't win playing under fear.

Well, did you see the Giants game? You don't win many games throwing 3 picks.
 

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To prove what point? Cut Cassel and you have to put Weeds back in there and no one wants to see that.

I acknowledge your point that Romo has helped our receivers by extending plays with his legs. But we can't make the mistake of thinking he does this EVERY completion. Romo has also stood in the pocket and zipped the ball for completions to Beasley, T Williams and even Escobar and Hannah.
Cassel and Weedon can't seem to find these guys at all. And the reason is they don't see the field and don't have the anticipation and quick twitch Tony Romo does.

You can't wait for guys to get open to throw the ball in this league. You have to know where the receiver is going and throw it to the spot leading him into the catch.

Your receiver - if you and he aren't on the same page - can screw you and get your picked, which is what would happen to Romo early in his career.

But once you develop that chemistry, the quarterback trusts you to be at a certain spot and delivers it to you in that spot.

Romo has the experience, the intellect and the arm to do this.
Cassel and Weedon do not.

aren't you guys saying the same thing? :huh::flagwave:
 
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