Matt Jones wont be suspended by NFL, now we will see if jerry jones is interested!

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Alexander;2788844 said:
We have two coaches who have been around him on a daily basis. We shouldn't be operating from assumption.

I'm talking about stash's assumption
if DeCamillis and Campo give Jones a clean bill of health, then I'll be sure to soften my rhetoric
 

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Jones is better then our 2nd and 3rds.Jones stretches the field well and has good hands.Jones isnt soft and injury prone like the enitire wr corps is now.
 

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juckie;2788849 said:
Jones is better then our 2nd and 3rds.Jones stretches the field well and has good hands.Jones isnt soft and injury prone like the enitire wr corps is now.

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

with a career long of 49
what a freakin' beast

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those are Patrick Crayton's longs, and noone would confuse him for a field stretcher
 

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Hostile;2788859 said:
Naw, he does coke.
whatever works.at least he would make it thru a season without an ankle sprain of 10 weeks
 

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juckie;2788849 said:
Jones is better then our 2nd and 3rds.Jones stretches the field well and has good hands.Jones isnt soft and injury prone like the enitire wr corps is now.

JerryAdvocate;2788850 said:
:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

with a career long of 49
what a freakin' beast

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those are Patrick Crayton's longs, and noone would confuse him for a field stretcher

:laugh2:
 

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Hostile;2788885 said:
I still can't figure out how he skates without a suspension.

What's the offense?

Having two beers?

I can see why the league doesn't feel it's warranted.

Jones' issue is with the courts.

And he served his 5 days for that mistake.

He served his league-mandated suspension for his arrest and I can't see the NFL suspending someone for having a beer.
 

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stasheroo;2788845 said:
.....snip.....
And the Cowboys are no worse off than they are today.

Jones will take up a roster spot. That may not seem like a big thing but if he fails then that potentially costs us a player. Might not be a big thing and then maybe it could be.

Also, if he screws up again the commish may come down on the Cowboys.

I don't really have an opinion about Jones. It's a risk. That's a fact. Could he help the Cowboys. Certainly. Or it could go the other way.
 

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stasheroo;2788845 said:
And the Cowboys are no worse off than they are today.

It depends. Jerry Jones could come off looking very bad just like he did last year when he allowed Pacman Jones to return to the team after the bathroom incident. There is no reason he should have been allowed to return. There supposedly were a bunch of angry players on defense who resented his return.

If he's been preaching hard work and living/sleeping football to all of these players, what is hiring a notoriously lazy player with drug issues going to do that that message? Remember this usually circles around Jerry Jones because there is little doubt that he, not the head coach, is the one in charge and where these players get their messages from.

It is not an easy decision. I would hate to make it. But the one thing in our favor is that Jones speaks in tongues and says one thing one minute "standing here right now" and does the complete opposite the next. I wonder exactly how much players put stock in his flip flopping.
 

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stasheroo;2788893 said:
What's the offense?

Having two beers?

I can see why the league doesn't feel it's warranted.

Jones' issue is with the courts.

And he served his 5 days for that mistake.

He served his league-mandated suspension for his arrest and I can't see the NFL suspending someone for having a beer.


Wasn't he busted for having dope in his car in the last few months? I don't think the beer drinking is why people don't understand how he's skating a suspension.
 

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Right, the problem with Pacman wasn't so much giving him a try as it was Jerry insisting he play even though he showed he was lazy, didn't pay attention to his technique, and didn't even try to improve it.

I would do just the opposite with Jones: Tell him that we're giving you a chance, but you're going to start out at the bottom of the depth chart and you're going to have to work your way up. If he looks lazy or simply doesn't look that much better than what we have, cut him. Why not? That's what every other team is going to tell him, too.

If Jerry can't help himself and is going to latch on like a bulldog to this project like he did with Pacman, I wouldn't even do it. But this seems like a new Jerry, with Stephen having more influence than ever.
 

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Hostile;2788885 said:
I still can't figure out how he skates without a suspension.

Because Roger Gooddell only suspends those perceived as "thugs" by the media.
 

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Is Matt Jones worth the trouble?

Opinion: Holding on to the Jaguars wide receiver would be easy — and wrong
By Gene Frenette

Story updated at 11:16 AM on Monday, Mar. 16, 2009

In his two months as Jaguars general manager, Gene Smith has often put hammer to nail on the point that good character will be a high-priority item for this organization.

Smith followed through on that standard by letting off-the-field headaches Khalif Barnes and Reggie Williams become free agents without any offer to retain them. Those were easy calls because their performance wasn't worth the aggravation.

But what happens now that Matt Jones, a player who was just starting to be a significant contributor, has messed up again and pinned Smith to the wall on the character issue? Is Jones given his walking papers, or is there a different get-out-jail-free card awaiting him because, well, the receiver corps is so painfully thin?

In some ways, this is a more awkward decision for Smith than releasing Fred Taylor because Jones is 25 and a potential long-term solution as a second or third receiver.

After Jones' cocaine arrest last July -when coach Jack Del Rio had the final authority on roster decisions, and somewhat of a personal interest in keeping Jones because he favored the team's 2006 first-round draft pick - Arkansas' former favorite son capitalized on the break. A previously immature, lazy player led the team in catches (65) and receiving yards (761) in 2008, despite serving a three-game suspension for violating the NFL substance-abuse policy.

All that knucklehead nonsense appeared to be in his past until Jones, by drinking beer two weeks ago while playing golf with friends in Arkansas, violated the no-alcohol condition of his plea deal that placed him in a drug-intervention program.

He will be in jail until Sunday and is likely facing another NFL suspension for running afoul of its personal-conduct policy.

While it seems harsh to berate Jones for such an innocuous offense, the problem here is more about judgment than the gravity of his actions. Jones knew consuming alcohol meant a violation of probation, yet he took the risk and got popped by a random test.

If you're the Jaguars, how many times is Jones entitled to disappoint his bosses before they decide he's no longer worth the trouble? Jones can recite the riot act because it's been read to him so often by receivers coach Todd Monken that Jones knows it better than a Geico commercial.

Fans here want to embrace him, but Jones is just a big tease. He gets people excited. Then, just like that last-second pass in the end zone against the Cleveland Browns last year, Jones ultimately lets you down.

Can he change? Sure, anything is possible.

But if the Jaguars keep him, they also live with wondering if there's going to be a screw-up that leads to another suspension, or a drive foiled because No. 18 didn't go hard enough after a ball.

That's the problem with Jones. He's not a menu on which you can pick only the desirable options. The baggage comes with him, and it's getting heavier all the time.

The NFL Draft is six weeks away, but make no mistake about it, Gene Smith is already on the clock. He must decide whether Matt Jones has run out of second chances.

Actually, the answer for the team's new sheriff should be simple. If character truly does matter to the Jaguars, you cut the cord, even when it's the inconvenient thing to do.

gene.frenette@jacksonville.com,

http://www.jacksonville.com/sports/...lding_onto_wr_jones_would_be_easy_-_and_wrong

That line sums it all up. As a Razorback fan who watched him for years, he'd bring you right to the edge and then absolutely break your heart. He's fun to watch but I'm not sure if it would be best.
 

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BraveHeartFan;2788952 said:
Wasn't he busted for having dope in his car in the last few months? I don't think the beer drinking is why people don't understand how he's skating a suspension.

I haven't seen anything about dope in his car.

He was originally arrested for doing coke in a car, maybe that's what you're referring to.

And he served a three-game suspension for that offense last season.
 

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jobberone;2788907 said:
Jones will take up a roster spot. That may not seem like a big thing but if he fails then that potentially costs us a player. Might not be a big thing and then maybe it could be.

Also, if he screws up again the commish may come down on the Cowboys.

I don't really have an opinion about Jones. It's a risk. That's a fact. Could he help the Cowboys. Certainly. Or it could go the other way.

A roster spot.

Much the same way that Isaah Stanback and his two catches has.

Or the way James Marten did.

Or like Joe Berger did last season.

I still say the reward far outweighs the risk.

I have yet to see the commish coming down on any team.

I'll believe there is such a thing when I see it.
 
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