Maybe Dallas is simply over-rated

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ThreeSportStar80;2293420 said:
I believe Dallas is overrated, they haven't won a playoff game in 10 years. A lot of players on this team don't understand how to play in the clutch.


You cant say Dallas is overrated because they havent won a playoff game in over 10 years. This nucleus is only a few years old. They havent won a playoff game in 2 tries with a QB with less than 2 years under belt and Owens on team for 2 years etc.



Now if you want to say the organization is overrated then go ahead... doesnt make sense though.
 

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Extreme;2293661 said:
Overrated? Far from it. I honestly believe you guys have easily assembled one of the best teams in the league. The problems are elsewhere.

For starters, Tony Romo believes the hype about him. He's a young kid, you can't blame him. However, this will continue to be the Cowboys achille's heel. If Romo was a veteran and had this team, they might be damn near unbeatable. Since he is so young, he is in the brightest spotlight, and he hears nothing all day but how wonderful he is, and starts getting Pepsi endorsements he hasn't earned (No Ring) he's gonna have a big head. He can't get up for the big ones yet, but he'll get there. For your sake, you better just hope he gets there while T.O. is there, or it might be irrelevant.

Dallas consistently underestimates great opponents. The media is in JJ's pocket, along with the broadcasters (who all seem to be ex-Cowboys), and it overinflates their perceived level of greatness. The Patriots were hyped like they were gods, but generally stayed humble about it. In the process they racked up 3 titles, and the 3 longest winning streaks in history, and also became the only 16-0 team in history. They never took anyone lightly until they met NY last year. Their mistake, because they nearly had their throats slit by them in the last regular season game.

As long as Dallas believes they are invincible, they will shoot themselves in the foot. As long as they look at the Commanders like they are the Skins of the 90's, they will keep getting beat by them, just like 5 of the last 7 times.

The media has a love affair with Dallas, and they despise the Commanders. Becuase of this, Dallas feels they are superior to the Skins no matter what, because even when they were great (1983,1987,1991) the media gave them no love, so Cowboys think they are just going to waltz away with every game.

It's the attitude that beats you, not the lack of talent. They don't play to win when they need to. They're their own worst enemy.

Your wrong the Media doesnt have a love affair with the cowboys They love to kick us when were down...and they set us up ....The despise the reddinks cause of your troll owner. We have beaten like 10-2 at home take your win and go away...Your going nowhere with that team...
 

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YoMick;2293775 said:
You cant say Dallas is overrated because they havent won a playoff game in over 10 years. This nucleus is only a few years old. They havent won a playoff game in 2 tries with a QB with less than 2 years under belt and Owens on team for 2 years etc.



Now if you want to say the organization is overrated then go ahead... doesnt make sense though.

It is funny, our 5 SBs are no longer relevant because they are ancient history but somehow the 1996-2007 without a post season victory is somehow important.
 

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StylisticS;2293767 said:
I agree with your post except this part. I do not think we are liked. Now we do commercials and endorsements because the name is marketable and the organization is marketable. However, when it comes to talking about the game of football, we are not really liked so much. For example, 4/5 of the gameday crew despises the Cowboys and they don't hide it.
If this was true, and it's very laughable that you think so, explain why EVERY game on any channel has at least one ex coach or ex player from the Cowboys, and explain how Irvin got in before Monk. It's an honest bit of curiosity on my part. Also, explain all the Dallas Cowboys things you see all over TV. It's never ending, and it's been that way for "America's Team" since I was a kid. I'd like to hear an example, other than gameday crew who hates everyone I'm starting to think.

They're all a bunch of sore pricks anyway lol.

It has nothing to do with marketability either. The Commanders are the most valuable franchise in sports, and consistently make the most money worldwide in merchandise sales even when we're a miserable 3-13 team like in the 90's, and you never see our stuff anywhere, and everyone in the media talks smack about us but Jerry Glanville (which confuses me greatly). Brian Mitchell made his name here, and he gives us the shaft harder than anyone.
 

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Extreme;2293808 said:
If this was true, and it's very laughable that you think so, explain why EVERY game on any channel has at least one ex coach or ex player from the Cowboys, and explain how Irvin got in before Monk. It's an honest bit of curiosity on my part. Also, explain all the Dallas Cowboys things you see all over TV. It's never ending, and it's been that way for "America's Team" since I was a kid. I'd like to hear an example, other than gameday crew who hates everyone I'm starting to think.

They're all a bunch of sore pricks anyway lol.

It has nothing to do with marketability either. The Commanders are the most valuable franchise in sports, and consistently make the most money worldwide in merchandise sales even when we're a miserable 3-13 team like in the 90's, and you never see our stuff anywhere, and everyone in the media talks smack about us but Jerry Glanville (which confuses me greatly). Brian Mitchell made his name here, and he gives us the shaft harder than anyone.

That simply is not true. The Cowboys are the most valuable by Forbes.
 

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Extreme;2293808 said:
If this was true, and it's very laughable that you think so, explain why EVERY game on any channel has at least one ex coach or ex player from the Cowboys, and explain how Irvin got in before Monk. It's an honest bit of curiosity on my part. Also, explain all the Dallas Cowboys things you see all over TV. It's never ending, and it's been that way for "America's Team" since I was a kid. I'd like to hear an example, other than gameday crew who hates everyone I'm starting to think.

They're all a bunch of sore pricks anyway lol.

It has nothing to do with marketability either. The Commanders are the most valuable franchise in sports, and consistently make the most money worldwide in merchandise sales even when we're a miserable 3-13 team like in the 90's, and you never see our stuff anywhere, and everyone in the media talks smack about us but Jerry Glanville (which confuses me greatly). Brian Mitchell made his name hear, and he gives us the shaft harder than anyone.

Because Daniel Snyder paid an exorbitant amount for the Commanders doesn't make them the most valuable team. The only reason they have any value is because Snyder charges for every little penny. The prices at Landover are ridiculous.

With this new stadium in Texas, the Cowboys will be valued more than any team by wide margins. As far as the Commanders making the most out of merchandise sales anywhere, please provide the source for this information.... Nobody wants to wear maroon and gold...
 

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Just wondering how many of these guys could have started on the great champ teams of the 90's.

T.O. is the only one I can think of. Maybe Ware, but he is not in the class of Haley. He gets sacks, but Haley got pressure almost every single passing down and had the bad back to prove it. Yeah, yeah, Ware doesn't rush every down. But even if he did he wouldn't intimidate QB's the way Haley did.
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;2293805 said:
It is funny, our 5 SBs are no longer relevant because they are ancient history but somehow the 1996-2007 without a post season victory is somehow important.


It bees like dat sometimes....
 

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VoR;2293835 said:
Just wondering how many of these guys could have started on the great champ teams of the 90's.

T.O. is the only one I can think of. Maybe Ware, but he is not in the class of Haley. He gets sacks, but Haley got pressure almost every single passing down and had the bad back to prove it. Yeah, yeah, Ware doesn't rush every down. But even if he did he wouldn't intimidate QB's the way Haley did.

don't be so sure, athletes today are better even if they look worse.

overall though, I don't disagree
 

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VoR;2293835 said:
Just wondering how many of these guys could have started on the great champ teams of the 90's.

T.O. is the only one I can think of. Maybe Ware, but he is not in the class of Haley. He gets sacks, but Haley got pressure almost every single passing down and had the bad back to prove it. Yeah, yeah, Ware doesn't rush every down. But even if he did he wouldn't intimidate QB's the way Haley did.


what is it with this place. That team in the 90s got throttled plenty of times in philly and washington. They lost home games to philly and washington.

Lets let the season play out before we go haywire.

and umm ware could play on that team. That is an absurd statement.
 

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Hopefully this loss gives them the kick in the butt thats needed and will bode well for the rest of the season. The Skins defence held Barber in check and they also totally took Dallas off their gameplan which is clock control and it just wasnt there today.... On to next week

P.S. I would them rather them lose now then in the playoffs again
 

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Westcoasthabsfan;2293868 said:
Hopefully this loss gives them the kick in the butt thats needed and will bode well for the rest of the season. The Skins defence held Barber in check and they also totally took Dallas off their gameplan which is clock control and it just wasnt there today.... On to next week

P.S. I would them rather them lose now then in the playoffs again

True

BTW West, the Canadiens won in preseason tonight against Florida in a shootout. Price was outstanding.

Tuesday's game against Detroit is on RDS and TSN
 

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This team is over-rated and they read their own press clippings too much but the real fatal flaw is the coaching staff....Wade is a cupcake and stewart is an unproven and unimpressive coordinator. Garrett is what ? a second year coordinator who panics and forgets about the run and felix jones when he doesnt get 10 yards per rush. This team has some talent and may focus better another day, but poor coaching will be fatal. How come some teams have lesser talent but play over their heads because they have been "coached up"...This team underperforms because of the coaching.
 

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VoR;2293835 said:
Just wondering how many of these guys could have started on the great champ teams of the 90's.

T.O. is the only one I can think of. Maybe Ware, but he is not in the class of Haley. He gets sacks, but Haley got pressure almost every single passing down and had the bad back to prove it. Yeah, yeah, Ware doesn't rush every down. But even if he did he wouldn't intimidate QB's the way Haley did.


None of these guys would start on the 90's team maybe just maybe Witten, That's the only one who is debatable but what does this have to do with anything....If the 90's Bills were around now they would own everyone even the Pats.....So what does that prove or even mean....
 

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Westcoasthabsfan;2293868 said:
Hopefully this loss gives them the kick in the butt thats needed and will bode well for the rest of the season. The Skins defence held Barber in check and they also totally took Dallas off their gameplan which is clock control and it just wasnt there today.... On to next week

P.S. I would them rather them lose now then in the playoffs again

Nice Post. I feel exactly the same way about this loss. I hate losing. But if there is such a thing as a "good" loss, this may be it.
 

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Extreme;2293808 said:
If this was true, and it's very laughable that you think so, explain why EVERY game on any channel has at least one ex coach or ex player from the Cowboys, and explain how Irvin got in before Monk. It's an honest bit of curiosity on my part. Also, explain all the Dallas Cowboys things you see all over TV. It's never ending, and it's been that way for "America's Team" since I was a kid. I'd like to hear an example, other than gameday crew who hates everyone I'm starting to think.

They're all a bunch of sore pricks anyway lol.

It has nothing to do with marketability either. The Commanders are the most valuable franchise in sports, and consistently make the most money worldwide in merchandise sales even when we're a miserable 3-13 team like in the 90's, and you never see our stuff anywhere, and everyone in the media talks smack about us but Jerry Glanville (which confuses me greatly). Brian Mitchell made his name here, and he gives us the shaft harder than anyone.

If you really believe that the Washington Commanders name is more marketable than the Dallas Cowboys name, I have a tunnel in Alabama I'd like to sell you. Jerry Jones markets his team. When you see that star, you instantly know what it is. You may despise it, you may love it. But endorsers see it was money. Same cannot be said for the Commanders.

You also said that the media likes the Cowboys? I just GAVE you an example in where in the media that actually hates us. Turn to gameday sometime and see the stuff Keyshawn, Chris Carter, and Tom Jackson spews on a weekly basis. It gets personal for all of them because they were either cut by the Cowboys or BEAT by the Cowboys. Who's fault is it that you barely see former skin players in the national media? I thought I saw Joe Theismann on ESPN for a good number of years. Besides, I don't see any ex coaches or ex players on CBS or NFL Network. I do see three on Fox and 2 on ESPN. Not exactly every channel.
 

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theebs;2293865 said:
what is it with this place. That team in the 90s got throttled plenty of times in philly and washington. They lost home games to philly and washington.

Lets let the season play out before we go haywire.

and umm ware could play on that team. That is an absurd statement.

I agree. I think we lost to Philly in week 4? 31-7 on Monday Night in 1992. Forgot the week. Point is, that didn't break their season. Heck, the future Super Bowl champions of 1995/96 was swept by the Commanders.
 
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