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Yah.... Still not the point.

His style sucks for good fight

Agreed. Not entertaining at all from a fan's perspective. Still hard to argue with the results. This is for you. :laugh:

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Yet he really was unwilling to mix it up at all. He lived behind the jab and running. For fighter that says he is the best pound for pound fighter he looked pretty scared to mix it up with Manny.

He should change TGE to:

TGDE defense

TGEE evader

TGHE holder

If you have the win and you know it, there is no reason at all to mix it up. This fight was exactly what I thought it would be when it was announced. I don't fault Mayweather for doing what he did. If I were him, I would have done the same thing. Why risk fighting a fight that allows your opponent the ONLY chance he has to win (knock out) when you can simply eliminate the possibility by using your length and keeping him out of range, tie up when he gets close enough to do damage?

That is my opinion of it.

On the nosey!



It was funny when Mayweather thought for a minute that he might get robbed by majority decision.
I was hoping for it. At least then in the rematch he would go more toe to toe.
 

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No issue with the winner, it was a legit. But when you are Mayweather and has a case of diarrhea of the mouth talking about how he will beat this person and that person and then go out and fight like Wladmir Klitschko, he should just offer to refund people some of their money. He was fighting not to lose not to win and that is why he will never be int he conversation with Marciano
 

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No issue with the winner, it was a legit. But when you are Mayweather and has a case of diarrhea of the mouth talking about how he will beat this person and that person and then go out and fight like Wladmir Klitschko, he should just offer to refund people some of their money. He was fighting not to lose not to win and that is why he will never be int he conversation with Marciano

That's accurate. He fought not to lose.

Unfortunately if he goes 49-0 or 50-0 he will be in conversation. I agree with you though.

Marciano was literally a rock.... That rock would chop down fighters like chopping down trees.
 

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It was funny when Mayweather thought for a minute that he might get robbed by majority decision.
I was hoping for it. At least then in the rematch he would go more toe to toe.

Honestly, pay per view was the worst thing that ever happened to boxing. If you want good fights, get rid of pay per view. In the old days, if you wanted a televised fight, you had to put on a show. You could not get away with charging stupid prices for pay per view and the fight fans new what would be a good show. They saw the fighters. Today, that doesn't happen. The media hypes these fights and the public is so out of touch with Boxing that they really have no idea what a good fight would be or should be. You have an entire generation that has no idea about boxing. They know MMA or what have you. If you stopped pay per view and went back to television fights on ABC or TNT or whatever, you would bring in all of those younger audiences again because you don't have to pay for the fights. Fighters could still make money because obviously, the NFL, the NBA and MLB are not going broke any time soon and you get the kids reengaged in boxing. You could still offer Pay-Per-View as an option with more indepth stuff, behind the scene stuff, if you wanted to. Do that for the big fights but televise fights so that people can watch them.

That's how you fix boxing.
 

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Honestly, pay per view was the worst thing that ever happened to boxing. If you want good fights, get rid of pay per view. In the old days, if you wanted a televised fight, you had to put on a show. You could not get away with charging stupid prices for pay per view and the fight fans new what would be a good show. They saw the fighters. Today, that doesn't happen. The media hypes these fights and the public is so out of touch with Boxing that they really have no idea what a good fight would be or should be. You have an entire generation that has no idea about boxing. They know MMA or what have you. If you stopped pay per view and went back to television fights on ABC or TNT or whatever, you would bring in all of those younger audiences again because you don't have to pay for the fights. Fighters could still make money because obviously, the NFL, the NBA and MLB are not going broke any time soon and you get the kids reengaged in boxing. You could still offer Pay-Per-View as an option with more indepth stuff, behind the scene stuff, if you wanted to. Do that for the big fights but televise fights so that people can watch them.

That's how you fix boxing.

Yeah I don't see it. It's change in the direction of profit. NFL does it... Any responsible business man/company will and should do it.

It the fighters themselves. They can win by fighting not too lose. They can train better than ever and run that marathon. Why take chances.

They should change the name of the sport.

Boxing for: boxers vs boxers (technicians of the sweet science)

Fights: fighters vs fighters (no decisions, someone needs to get knocked the ***** out)



Then hey,lol you may be on to something actually. People will pay the PPV if they know the knockout is guaranteed. Good idea ABQ :)
 

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If you have the win and you know it, there is no reason at all to mix it up. This fight was exactly what I thought it would be when it was announced. I don't fault Mayweather for doing what he did. If I were him, I would have done the same thing. Why risk fighting a fight that allows your opponent the ONLY chance he has to win (knock out) when you can simply eliminate the possibility by using your length and keeping him out of range, tie up when he gets close enough to do damage?

That is my opinion of it.

And live a healthy life after your career in the ring comes to an end.
 

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And live a healthy life after your career in the ring comes to an end.

if your concern is live a healthy life once you get out of the ring why even go in to boxing, hell any contact sport for that matter.
 

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if your concern is live a healthy life once you get out of the ring why even go in to boxing, hell any contact sport for that matter.

That question I cannot answer but to fault someone in the twilight of their career for minimizing the damage they take (same criticism leveled at GSP in MMA) seems a bit disingenuous to me. Mayweather's strategy, as pointed out by ABQ, makes perfect sense even if it doesn't make a good spectacle for those who shelled out for the PPV.
 

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That question I cannot answer but to fault someone in the twilight of their career for minimizing the damage they take (same criticism leveled at GSP in MMA) seems a bit disingenuous to me. Mayweather's strategy, as pointed out by ABQ, makes perfect sense even if it doesn't make a good spectacle for those who shelled out for the PPV.

If he was 30-0 I think he does it differerently and has but as he got closer to 49-0 he moved away from beating his opponents to just doing enough to get the decision.
 

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Get rid of guaranteed purses. One guy gets $180 million win or lose. The other gets $120 million win or lose. No matter what you know you're getting paid a lot of money and it has to dim your motivation in a fight. Make it where the winner gets 80 percent and loser gets 20 percent and I think that will help.

It would also help if fighters were forced to fight each other when they're each in their prime. Every other sport the best play each other to get a champion. Not in boxing. This fight should have happened years ago and not when the boxers deemed it acceptable. I think that's a big drawing card of the UFC. The best fight each other and there's no hiding from each other. At least that how I hear it. I don’t follow that sport much either.
 

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Its never a fight when its maywheater. Its a point scoring contest. he hits and doesnt get though thats the point of boxing I guess. No boxing match is worth $1 anymore imo.
 

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Lol at saying boxing is dead. People have been saying that for how long now? If it was anywhere close to dead, this fight wouldnt have made half of what it did.
 

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I paid for the fight... Instead I got dancing with the stars lol

Thanks!

You should've known it wouldn't be a haymaker festival if you've ever watched Floyd fight. He's one of the most intelligent boxers in history (in the ring, lol). He knows how to win a bout and he's the best defensive fighter maybe ever. Very similar defensive style to Ali. Can't lose if you don't get hit.
 

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Its never a fight when its maywheater. Its a point scoring contest. he hits and doesnt get though thats the point of boxing I guess. No boxing match is worth $1 anymore imo.

Depends on what you like. As someone who boxed in college and who really enjoys boxing as a sport, I will always pay to watch Floyd. It's like watching art in motion.

If you want to see two guys wail on each other like a street fight, stick to UFC.

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Get rid of guaranteed purses. One guy gets $180 million win or lose. The other gets $120 million win or lose. No matter what you know you're getting paid a lot of money and it has to dim your motivation in a fight. Make it where the winner gets 80 percent and loser gets 20 percent and I think that will help.

It would also help if fighters were forced to fight each other when they're each in their prime. Every other sport the best play each other to get a champion. Not in boxing. This fight should have happened years ago and not when the boxers deemed it acceptable. I think that's a big drawing card of the UFC. The best fight each other and there's no hiding from each other. At least that how I hear it. I don’t follow that sport much either.

Couldn't disagree more. The purses are out of control, yes, but the rest I can't agree with at all.

1. Forcing fights -- no. That's part of the sport. It's a combat sport - you can't force fights. I wouldn't condone forcing fights in other martial arts tournaments or in MMA competition either.

2. UFC comments -- also disagree. The big draw for UFC is that there's a cage, its bloody, they can go to the ground, and the marketing. Everybody thinks they can hit the gym, wear a TapouT shirt, drink some Monster and some whey protein and step into a cage and fight. Boxing is completely different and more technical.
 

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If he was 30-0 I think he does it differerently and has but as he got closer to 49-0 he moved away from beating his opponents to just doing enough to get the decision.

He has always fought the same way, and I've been watching him for 10+ years. Other guys got frustrated and tried to go after him and got knocked out. Others have tried to figure him out throughout a bout but can't - and by the time they maybe learn one layer of his style and strategy, they're already standing in the ring to await the decision after 12 rounds.
 

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Honestly, pay per view was the worst thing that ever happened to boxing. If you want good fights, get rid of pay per view. In the old days, if you wanted a televised fight, you had to put on a show. You could not get away with charging stupid prices for pay per view and the fight fans new what would be a good show. They saw the fighters. Today, that doesn't happen. The media hypes these fights and the public is so out of touch with Boxing that they really have no idea what a good fight would be or should be. You have an entire generation that has no idea about boxing. They know MMA or what have you. If you stopped pay per view and went back to television fights on ABC or TNT or whatever, you would bring in all of those younger audiences again because you don't have to pay for the fights. Fighters could still make money because obviously, the NFL, the NBA and MLB are not going broke any time soon and you get the kids reengaged in boxing. You could still offer Pay-Per-View as an option with more indepth stuff, behind the scene stuff, if you wanted to. Do that for the big fights but televise fights so that people can watch them.

That's how you fix boxing.

I disagree somewhat. For $100 you could have easily watched two very, very good undercard fights. Lomachenko from Ukraine was a really awesome fight to watch...up and coming fighter there, and only has something like 5 or 6 pro fights to his name.

$33 per bout is not a bad deal whatsoever. I've paid $20 to watch amateur fights before.
 

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You should've known it wouldn't be a haymaker festival if you've ever watched Floyd fight. He's one of the most intelligent boxers in history (in the ring, lol). He knows how to win a bout and he's the best defensive fighter maybe ever. Very similar defensive style to Ali. Can't lose if you don't get hit.

Actually, I did know. I do know.
I predicted the exact outcome, 10 rounds to 2 rounds.
 
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