Mayweather vs Pacquiao is happening

[Smith22]

He's a technician. It wasn't a brawl, it was a boxing match.

A boring as hell boxing match. No fight of the century. The sport is dead.

 

[jrumann59]

He's a technician. It wasn't a brawl, it was a boxing match.

Yet he really was unwilling to mix it up at all. He lived behind the jab and running. For fighter that says he is the best pound for pound fighter he looked pretty scared to mix it up with Manny.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

If you have the win and you know it, there is no reason at all to mix it up. This fight was exactly what I thought it would be when it was announced. I don't fault Mayweather for doing what he did. If I were him, I would have done the same thing. Why risk fighting a fight that allows your opponent the ONLY chance he has to win (knock out) when you can simply eliminate the possibility by using your length and keeping him out of range, tie up when he gets close enough to do damage?

That is my opinion of it.

 

[CyberB0b]

Yet he really was unwilling to mix it up at all. He lived behind the jab and running. For fighter that says he is the best pound for pound fighter he looked pretty scared to mix it up with Manny.

Someone asked him about this in an interview. He said work smarter, not harder. He's always been a great defender and counter puncher. He's never been one to push the pace. You sound like you aren't a boxing fan and got duped by the hype. He is one of the greatest technical boxers of all time.

 

[jrumann59]

Someone asked him about this in an interview. He said work smarter, not harder. He's always been a great defender and counter puncher. He's never been one to push the pace. You sound like you aren't a boxing fan and got duped by the hype. He is one of the greatest technical boxers of all time.

I am a casual fan because boxing got too much into the hype. Used to watch it quite bit during the 90's and early 2000's. But to proclaim you are the best pound for pound fighter but hide behind your defense most of the fight and connect on 3-4 counter punches and throwing lazy jabs to keep the guy at distance is not being the being the most prolific and exciting boxer in the world. It is obvious he is more worried about getting to that 49-0 mark and making money than actually fighting. Personally I think he doesn't mix it up as much because he is scared he will make a mistake.

 

[CyberB0b]

Personally I think he doesn't mix it up as much because he is scared he will make a mistake.

I'm having trouble following your logic. He won nearly every round. If someone wants to beat him, they would need to figure out how to beat his defense. He's the champ. He's undefeated. If someone wants to beat him, they are the ones who need to figure it out. It seems like he is doing just fine.

This is coming from a guy who can't stand Mayweather the person. I just respect his skills.

 

[jrumann59]

I agree someone has to beat him or his defense. But in this fight he spent a lot of behind the defense and all he was looking for is the counter punch. he did not look like he was looking for offense at all during the fight, the times he did, Manny was able to get to him he, actually looked scared of manny's offense. I know the object is to hit your opponent, harder and avoided being hit and being hit hard. He just looked like a champ that is coasting you do just enough to win the round and then go full on defensive shell.

 

[Szczepanik]

I'm having trouble following your logic. He won nearly every round. If someone wants to beat him, they would need to figure out how to beat his defense. He's the champ. He's undefeated. If someone wants to beat him, they are the ones who need to figure it out. It seems like he is doing just fine.

This is coming from a guy who can't stand Mayweather the person. I just respect his skills.

You mean learn how to beat him initiating a clinch when he gets in trouble and learn how to channel punching power well above your weight class when he turtles against the ropes?

They need to implement point deductions for excessive clinching or lack of ring control.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

You mean learn how to beat him initiating a clinch when he gets in trouble and learn how to channel punching power well above your weight class when he turtles against the ropes?

They need to implement point deductions for excessive clinching or lack of ring control.

They already have this in place. Typically, if you clinch two much, you get warned. Usually, two warnings are given and on the third, the Ref has the option to deduct points. As far as ring control, the aggressor normally wins the rounds if the points scored are even.

I don't think the problem with boxing are the rules in place. I think it's more about how boxing is run. JMO

 

[khiladi]

Holding is illegal no matter which way you spin it. It happens every now and then and that isn't an issue. But using it systematically, especially to avoid mixing it up at all, is nonsense and has nothing to do with being a technician and defending it is nothing but spinning.

The ref warning Floyd for doing it (you don't warn for what is legal) pretty much all the time, but doing nothing in reality such as deducting points. It was useless and most likely, nothing but a show in Vegas...

 

[khiladi]

You mean learn how to beat him initiating a clinch when he gets in trouble and learn how to channel punching power well above your weight class when he turtles against the ropes?

They need to implement point deductions for excessive clinching or lack of ring control.

And part of the reason Floyd won on points is because that nonsensical, cheap tactic of using it systematically prevented Manny from getting points he could have in a situation where Mayweather's reach favored Floyd. Yeah Floyd won on points, but part of the reason for that is because every time Manny came in, Mayweather got him in a headlock. One could very well argue that Manny's success at hitting Floyd, not just increasing his chances of knocking him out, would have gone dramatically up, because his rhythm wouldn't have been constantly affected by Floyd's cheating.

That is NOT defense.. Floyd is great at defense, but part of his being amazing at defense does not including excessive clinching and holding. That is getting away with what he shouldn't be getting away with per the rules.

And in reality it is cheating because it is illegal and suppose to be penalized especially when using it systematically, and Floyd pretty much sets all the conditions for fights. That is why everybody other than his loyal homers hate him and can't stand him.

 

[Smith22]

Holding is illegal no matter which way you spin it. It happens every now and then and that isn't an issue. But using it systematically, especially to avoid mixing it up at all, is nonsense and has nothing to do with being a technician and defending it is nothing but spinning.

The ref warning Floyd for doing it (you don't warn for what is legal) pretty much all the time, but doing nothing in reality such as deducting points. It was useless and most likely, nothing but a show in Vegas...

Floyd used the headlock for a good 4-5 rounds, then he finally seemed to relent.

 

[CyberB0b]

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I'm having trouble following your logic. He won nearly every round. If someone wants to beat him, they would need to figure out how to beat his defense. He's the champ. He's undefeated. If someone wants to beat him, they are the ones who need to figure it out. It seems like he is doing just fine.

This is coming from a guy who can't stand Mayweather the person. I just respect his skills.

Defense is one thing.
But to hold, run and headlock every time an opponent wants to engage is not defense.

I agree someone has to beat him or his defense. But in this fight he spent a lot of behind the defense and all he was looking for is the counter punch. he did not look like he was looking for offense at all during the fight, the times he did, Manny was able to get to him he, actually looked scared of manny's offense. I know the object is to hit your opponent, harder and avoided being hit and being hit hard. He just looked like a champ that is coasting you do just enough to win the round and then go full on defensive shell.

If you put these two in Hagler and Hearns body. Someone gets knocked out. No way it goes the distance.

Anyway... I Predicted 10-2 on rounds.... That's what it really was.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

photos

Getting hit leads to...

Referee with good look ... Watching.... Waiting....

Don't worry you getting paid manny.

I'll let go... Don't hit ok?

Still hugging... Even after it was over!

 

[CyberB0b]

Getting hit leads to...

Referee with good look ... Watching.... Waiting....

Don't worry you getting paid manny.

I'll let go... Don't hit ok?

Still hugging... Even after it was over!

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Yes he won on point.


That's is not the point.

I am not disputing the victory.

 

[CyberB0b]

Yes he won on point.


That's is not the point.

I am not disputing the victory.

Mayweather threw more punches and landed way more.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Mayweather threw more punches and landed way more.

Yah.... Still not the point.

His style sucks for good fight

 

[Phoenix]

Boxing. Meh. I'll take professional wrestling any day. At least we get to be entertained once in a while