McClain tweet Saturday morning - sounds like he wants to play

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I like his attitude.

I would sign him to a small deal right now, before it gets larger.
 

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Your past matters. Try getting a job without giving out your prior work history. It's complete fan nonsense to say his prior years in the NFL don't matter.

He's not applying for a job, he's already got one and doing pretty doggone great at it, thanks anyhow. Besides, he's practically working for peanuts right now and is showing every indication of continuing to do fine. If you've got a better plan, at this point in time, I'd have to say you're probably in the minority around here. If he decides to do what he's done in the past, he'll be gone and the repercussions will be minimal. Are you sorry we got him? Didn't think so.
 
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He's not applying for a job, he's already got one and doing pretty doggone great at it, thanks anyhow. Besides, he's practically working for peanuts right now and is showing every indication of continuing to do fine. If you've got a better plan, at this point in time, I'd have to say you're probably in the minority around here. If he decides to do what he's done in the past, he'll be gone and the repercussions will be minimal. Are you sorry we got him? Didn't think so.

Thanks for the irrelevant response to what I said.

Your past matters. His past matters. You tried to say it didn't. You're wrong. The only reason a guy with McClain's ability was available for peanuts is because of his, wait for it, past.

If what you said was true no employer would ask for a resume before making a hire. Just admit you're looking to spin it to the most positive. If one of our players has a bad past it doesn't matter. Meanwhile guys like Dez Bryant are expected superstars based off what they've done previously. It's fan spin.
 

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As much as I want to believe the whole 'where there's a will there's a way' thing I have to see him dressed and on the field before I really think he's going to play Sunday.

Yeah, unfortunately, mind over matter doesn't always matter.
 

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You isolated my opening statements out of overall context. I certainly wasn't knocking Rolando. Read the next paragraph and you'll discover he was being praised generously. I would agree the Raiders may have been at fault but we don't know the entire story on that. The present is what my focus is really about, not the past. As far as I'm concerned this is a new start for McClain. The old stories are now a non-factor as far as I'm concerned.

I wasn't taking issue with your post, I was agreeing with you. The perception of McClain was widespread and my point is that some situations just don't "fit" for a lot of reasons and at this point, I would think most of those reasons for McClain were the fault of the Raiders.
 

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Like someone else already pointed out, your original statement was short sighted.

Or, . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . not drinking the kool aid built in excuses.

Taking an overall view of a process in year 4 1/2, in a league where winning is all that really matters, is hardly short sighted.

I know, I know, we're building something here . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
 

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Thanks for the irrelevant response to what I said.

Your past matters. His past matters. You tried to say it didn't. You're wrong. The only reason a guy with McClain's ability was available for peanuts is because of his, wait for it, past.

If what you said was true no employer would ask for a resume before making a hire. Just admit you're looking to spin it to the most positive. If one of our players has a bad past it doesn't matter. Meanwhile guys like Dez Bryant are expected superstars based off what they've done previously. It's fan spin.

I wasn't speaking from the perspective of an employer. Why should I -- I'm a fan and speak for myself. Jerry hired him due to being in desperate need of a MLB to replace Lee. Would I do things the way Jerry does? No.
He got himself into that position of desperation by way of his own and his son's failures.

McClain's past doesn't matter to me at this point because he's already been hired and there wouldn't have been anything I could have done about it even if I had wanted to (which I don't.) If that decision was a problem for you, perhaps you should write Jerry a letter and inform him he made a mistake. I wish you good luck with that.

Everyone's past matters to someone -- Rolando's simply doesn't matter to ME. I like him for what he is now.
 
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I wasn't speaking from the perspective of an employer. Why should I -- I'm a fan and speak for myself. Jerry hired him due to being in desperate need of a MLB to replace Lee. Would I do things the way Jerry does? No.
He got himself into that position of desperation by way of his own and his son's failures.

McClain's past doesn't matter to me at this point because he's already been hired and there wouldn't have been anything I could have done about it even if I had wanted to (which I don't.) If that decision was a problem for you, perhaps you should write Jerry a letter and inform him he made a mistake. I wish you good luck with that.

All players' past matters to me. It should matter to every fan. Because their past is often times indicative of their future. Tyron Smith is probably going to play well in the future. He's probably going to be a team player and a great locker room guy. How can I say this? Because his past tells me so.
 

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All players' past matters to me. It should matter to every fan. Because their past is often times indicative of their future. Tyron Smith is probably going to play well in the future. He's probably going to be a team player and a great locker room guy. How can I say this? Because his past tells me so.

I understand what you're saying here and your point is logical. I don't know if you disapprove of him or not but you're perfectly entitled to if you do. After all, that's your prerogative. What I said in my original post is that he seems to be dispelling the idea that "a leopard can't change his spots." I never flatly stated that one's past doesn't matter, although at this point, in this situation, it doesn't to me. I believe that sometimes people can change. Whether he actually has or not remains to be seen. As a fan, yes, I prefer to believe he has and his actions up until now seem to point in that direction. I think he's legit. That's all I'm trying to say here.
 
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All players' past matters to me. It should matter to every fan. Because their past is often times indicative of their future. Tyron Smith is probably going to play well in the future. He's probably going to be a team player and a great locker room guy. How can I say this? Because his past tells me so.

Now that his family problems with them wanting his money are behind him I hope you are right.
 

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I wasn't taking issue with your post, I was agreeing with you. The perception of McClain was widespread and my point is that some situations just don't "fit" for a lot of reasons and at this point, I would think most of those reasons for McClain were the fault of the Raiders.

Oops, sorry for the misunderstanding. You may be right about the Raiders being at fault but not having been a witness to that situation myself, it's impossible to know exactly what might have happened there. I think Ro McClain surely had some issues at that stage of his life that needed to be ironed out. Hopefully, those issues are resolved and in the past to stay. He's apparently doing and saying all the right things now but time usually exposes the absolute truth in cases like that. I believe he's the real deal but time will surely tell us even more.
 

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Oops, sorry for the misunderstanding. You may be right about the Raiders being at fault but not having been a witness to that situation myself, it's impossible to know exactly what might have happened there. I think Ro McClain surely had some issues at that stage of his life that needed to be ironed out. Hopefully, those issues are resolved and in the past to stay. He's apparently doing and saying all the right things now but time usually exposes the absolute truth in cases like that. I believe he's the real deal but time will surely tell us even more.

Agree, I'm sure McClain had some issues but that is part of the coaching process and it seems like Oakland didn't do it well. Also I'm sure it was a factor for McClain to be out of football and thinking about taking a real job, then standing next to Sean Lee and his 42 million dollar contract. That has to "focus the mind" as they say.
 
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