McFaddens top 100 players vid

[FuzzyLumpkins]

And yet other RBs have ran behind bad lines in the past and have found success: Lamar Miller, 31st ranked run blocking line, 5 YPC with over 1,000 yards. McFadden's problems are not with the line, it's his health and his declining abilities.

This isn't about predicting the future, this is about getting bodies in here to make the future a little bit brighter or having some common sense as a coaching staff. Have a little more security at the RB position. You have two RBs known to be busts: McFadden and Williams. One has done nearly nothing as a starter outside of a single season, the other has played in 5 regular season games since being a pro. The others are either pace changers or play a single role. Why not bring in a back that has had similar production to McFadden in the past but not as severe injury history? Like Randle? Okay, fine, how about AT LEAST getting a guy in here with some more experience instead of rolling with Dunbar behind him?

That's the issue. Pessimism and optimism about the future of these backs doesn't matter, look at history that is really the only indicator for now. Our coaching staff and owner has done a terrible job with fixing this RB situation; whether it's arrogance or oversight, I don't know.

Miami has Satele Pouncey and Thomas who are all better than anyone on the Raiders line. You are talking out of your butt.

 

[AmericasTeam81]

Is this whole thread based off the fact that McFadden was ranked as one the top 100 players by NFL network who determines the rankings based off of player votes?

 

[StarBoyz83]

I am hyped about mcfadden. Hes going to beast for dallas this year.

 

[mattjames2010]

Miami has Satele Pouncey and Thomas who are all better than anyone on the Raiders line. You are talking out of your butt.

Talking out of my butt? Their best offensive lineman were shifted around last year and all did poorly, look it up, check out their grades. Miami Dolphins, without a doubt, have one of the worst offensive lines in the league. I think it's you talking out of your butt. Not only is the run blocking poor, the pass protection is worse; have you seen what Tannehill has had to deal with? He's been sacked 139 times in 3 seasons, 46 times last year. The line is a mess and Miller found success.

Face it, McFadden is not that talented, and if he really was at one point, he's a shell of his former self.

 

[ConstantReboot]

I don't care what he did in Oakland. If he can't get 4.5 ypc here, he will be promptly cut and replaced with someone who can. Whoever the next back is will be a product of this oline.

How many yards do you think DM29 will have this year in Philly?

I for one have my concerns about McFadden. I think we should have more bodies in here trying out for the runningback position.

As for Murray, he was productive despite not being flashy. Murray has averaged around 5 yards a carry throughout his career even when he didn't have this oline. So I would still would rather have him than McFadden if money wasn't the issue.

 

[mattjames2010]

I for one have my concerns about McFadden. I think we should have more bodies in here trying out for the runningback position.

As for Murray, he was productive despite not being flashy. Murray has averaged around 5 yards a carry throughout his career even when he didn't have this oline. So I would still would rather have him than McFadden if money wasn't the issue.

And also, people forget that Philly has a pretty damn good run blocking O-Line themselves. There offensive line just got better and better last year.

It's not like Murray went from the best offensive line to the worst. He'll have holes to run through in Philly.

 

[ConstantReboot]

And also, people forget that Philly has a pretty damn good run blocking O-Line themselves. There offensive line just got better and better last year.

It's not like Murray went from the best offensive line to the worst. He'll have holes to run through in Philly.

Totally agree. Its not like he's going to Oakland.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Talking out of my butt? Their best offensive lineman were shifted around last year and all did poorly, look it up, check out their grades. Miami Dolphins, without a doubt, have one of the worst offensive lines in the league. I think it's you talking out of your butt. Not only is the run blocking poor, the pass protection is worse; have you seen what Tannehill has had to deal with? He's been sacked 139 times in 3 seasons, 46 times last year. The line is a mess and Miller found success.

Face it, McFadden is not that talented, and if he really was at one point, he's a shell of his former self.

How about you link your arguments instead of making claims you have not supported and expecting me to do your work for you. All you have done is show pass blocking stats which is not run blocking so yes talking out your butt.

Face it, I watched 6 Raiders games and came away with the conclusion that DMC still had his speed and their OL was the worst I had seen in a long time.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

And also, people forget that Philly has a pretty damn good run blocking O-Line themselves. There offensive line just got better and better last year.

It's not like Murray went from the best offensive line to the worst. He'll have holes to run through in Philly.

They lost Herriman last year and the run game took a serious step back. Lane Johnson has been a disappointment that juices. They have Mathis on the block. Both he and Peters are over 33 and they have done nothing to improve overall this offseason.

Seems more butt talking on your part.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Well, alright.

Everyone get out your 2012 draft guides and check out Brandon Weeden. I think the Cowboys got something there.

Yeah, a fat guy.

 

[mattjames2010]

How about you link your arguments instead of making claims you have not supported and expecting me to do your work for you. All you have done is show pass blocking stats which is not run blocking so yes talking out your butt.

Face it, I watched 6 Raiders games and came away with the conclusion that DMC still had his speed and their OL was the worst I had seen in a long time.

The work? Jesus Christ, this is KNOWN. Link what? You don't know of a damn site that shows how many times Tannehill has been sacked? IT'S ON NFL.COM!

Check out the individual grades on the lineman for the Dolphins. Pouncey had to be moved to guard, played poorly. Thomas played so poorly at guard that he was moved to tackle, and was arguably worse there, but was certainly not even close to average. He was awful. Even with Albert in the 9 games he played they looked awful. This is all on PFF. And I don't care about your personal opinions on the site, so save it.

No one is saying the Raiders offensive line is a great wall. We all know their line is terrible, but saying McFadden would have been some stud with a better offensive line in front of him is absurd. Injuries piled up for him and he's lost a step. Even if what you said was true, that he's taken such a beating behind the Raiders offensive line, that makes me want him even less; that means his body is closer to 35 than it is to 27.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The work? Jesus Christ, this is KNOWN. Link what? You don't know of a damn site that shows how many times Tannehill has been sacked? IT'S ON NFL.COM!

Check out the individual grades on the lineman for the Dolphins. Pouncey had to be moved to guard, played poorly. Thomas played so poorly at guard that he was moved to tackle, and was arguably worse there, but was certainly not even close to average. He was awful. Even with Albert in the 9 games he played they looked awful. This is all on PFF.

And I don't care about your personal opinions on the site, so save it.

Known? All you are doing is linking pass blocking stats, butt-talker.

And I don't care that you discount with a blanket dismissal and try to poison the well. PFF aggregate grades are numerated opinions but we don't even have that. If you aren't willing to defend them then why refer to them? You aren't good for much other than assuming your assertions are true and being too lazy to link proof.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I will say that I found their rankings and say its pretty bush league to literally parrot takes like:

Dud: In preseason Dallas Thomas (-32.7) struggled at guard. So naturally, being forced to start at right tackle did not go well as he was overmatched and routinely beaten.

and then not link them. I find it doubly hilarious that they gave the Raiders a top half rating.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/01/08/2014-pff-offensive-line-rankings/

 

[mattjames2010]

Known? All you are doing is linking pass blocking stats, butt-talker.

And I don't care that you discount with a blanket dismissal and try to poison the well. PFF aggregate grades are numerated opinions but we don't even have that. If you aren't willing to defend them then why refer to them? You aren't good for much other than assuming your assertions are true and being too lazy to link proof.

Haha, I love this. You REALLY can't look this up? You can't look up and read up on the Dolphins offensive line yearly review? https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/01/08/2014-pff-offensive-line-rankings/

http://dailysnark.com/miami-dolphins-offensive-line-blocks-one/

That should be an example enough of how out of sync that offensive line is not only with each other but their QB.

 

[mattjames2010]

I will say that I found their rankings and say its pretty bush league to literally parrot takes like:



and then not link them. I find it doubly hilarious that they gave the Raiders a top half rating.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/01/08/2014-pff-offensive-line-rankings/

See, you COULD do it. A little bit of effort gets you far. Now, if you can find Ryan Tannehills sack totals, I'll be really really proud.

And PFF does Monday and Wednesday reviews. They pretty much double check themselves. And they have an entire FAQ page detailing exactly how they score positions.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

See, you COULD do it. A little bit of effort gets you far. Now, if you can find Ryan Tannehills sack totals, I'll be really really proud.

And PFF does Monday and Wednesday reviews. They pretty much double check themselves. And they have an entire FAQ page detailing exactly how they score positions.

And they are still numerated opinions of a single man. Ever done a survey where 1 is strongly disagree and 5 is strongly agree? It's the same thing and you are hand-waving at a man's opinion. Bravo.

Nevermind that you regurgitate their lines and don't credit them for it.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

And insisting on bring up sack totals in a run blocking discussion. Raiders were actually quite good at pass blocking. Run blocking they were putrid. Even PFF agrees with that for all your handwaving at the Dolphins.

 

[mattjames2010]

And they are still numerated opinions of a single man. Ever done a survey where 1 is strongly disagree and 5 is strongly agree? It's the same thing and you are hand-waving at a man's opinion. Bravo.

Nevermind that you regurgitate their lines and don't credit them for it.

Yes, I go by a site that is known to do in-depth analysis and statistical data rather than someone on a message board giving me his opinion that came from brief viewing of games with his brilliant "eye test" observations. Then that same person gives the cop out and pretends he has no idea where to find this information.

And I call ******** that you didn't know that the highly scrutinized Dolphins line wasn't considered to be if not the worst, but near the worst offensive line in the league.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Yes, I go by a site that is known to do in-depth analysis and statistical data rather than someone on a message board giving me his opinion that came from brief viewing of games with his brilliant "eye test" observations. Then that same person gives the cop out and pretends he has no idea where to find this information.

And I call bull**** that you didn't know that the highly scrutinized Dolphins line wasn't considered to be if not the worst, but near the worst offensive line in the league.

You don't understand what I am saying about opinion surveys and their methodology. That's okay. Forest trees DMC the Dolphins.

 

[mattjames2010]

And insisting on bring up sack totals in a run blocking discussion. Raiders were actually quite good at pass blocking. Run blocking they were putrid. Even PFF agrees with that for all your handwaving at the Dolphins.

No, it's one thing if a line gives up 35 or so sacks, when a team gives up 58 and 46 sacks in back to back years, it gives you an example of an offensive line in disarray. This is well known, the line is absolutely terrible.