McQuistan to LG...

[theogt]

Not sure if you are being sarcastic or not, but if not my thoughts...

Last year I went to the Seattle pre-season game and there I specifically watched Romo and McQuistan to see if they were as good as people were talking. I obviously had very high hopes for Romo after leaving, but I also was very impressed with what McQuistan was able to do and realized how atheltic he really was. I think he is more athletic then Kosier...he is bigger...and he is around 325-330 range. He has very good quickness at that size, so I think he can beat out Kosier. JMO

I broke down the Seattle game. Here are McQ's plays. The plays in RED are bad plays. The plays in BLUE are very good plays. The plays in GREEN are either ok plays against backups, runs to the opposite side, a double team, or any other situation where he wasn't really in the play (meaning, you can't say whether it was a good or bad play).

1. Pushed McQ back and had a straight shot at QB but was chipped by RB and the ball was thrown before he could get past the back.

2. Quick pass to the flat. Nothing really to see here.

3. Run to his side directly behind him. He literally blocks no one. He's tripped up and falls to his knees.

4. He double teams an end with a TE. Nothing really to see here.

5. Gets a 1 on 1 with a DE and holds him off fine. That player is no long on the Seattle roster.

6. Another 1 on 1 with the same DE. The end basically just stands up and puts his hands in his chest. Nothing really athletic needed to defend him.

7. Ditto.

8. Double teamed their backup DT. Nothing really of note.

9. Run opposite side.

10. Ditto.

11. Run up behind him for 2 yards. The DE gets outside and keeps contain as McQ stumbles and falls. Basically he didn't block anyone. Had he not fallen, he could have picked up the LB and had a nice gain.

12. Double teams the DE. He disengages to pick up the late stunting DT, but the throw is already made.

13. Run play to his side. Gets a very nice push on the DT. Good play by McQ, but unfortunately it's a TFL because a pulling Colombo can't block a guy 60 pounds lighter than him.

14. Doubles DE with OG.

15. Run his side for little gain. No push.

16. Ditto.

17. Doubles DE with OG.

18. Run opposite side.

19. Blocks down as 2 defenders rushing right past him unblocked and force an early throw.

20. DE beats him on the outside rush move. Tony barely gets the pass off.

21. Very nice play. He chips the DT and goes to the 2nd level blocking 2 LBs. Showed nice athleticism. It almost made up for the 2 horrible plays right before it.

22. Ouch! Whiffs on block and Seattle gets a TFL. One good play and 3 horrible ones on this drive.

23. Gets beat outside by DE, but he literally wraps his arm around the guys head and pulls him away from the QB. If it wasn't preseason that would have been a yellow flag.

24. Double teams a DE who beats both him and the TE to force Romo out of the pocket.

25. Run opposite side.

26. 1 on 1 with DE. Quick pass to the flat.

27. Run opposite side.

28. Run opposite side.

29. Double teams DE.

30. Draw play up the middle. Nothing of note.

31. Run opposite side.

32. Bullrushed back into to QB, who's forced to step backwards while throwing.

33. Completely whiffs. DE forces Romo to throw it away (on a 3rd down -- i.e., it was a drive killer). After this play he was taken out of the game, though there was only about half a quarter left.

So, in the end he had 11 bad plays and 2 good plays. Honestly, the only way you could come away from this game thinking it was a good game is if you were expecting him to be Torrin Tucker. All in all, not a bad game for a rookie with little experience.

But there's nothing there that makes me think this guy can replace a solid starter with experience.

 

[theogt]

I'd take that bet over him beating out Flo.

Well, yeah.

Its not like left tackle is McQuinstan's "natural" position, but rather if he has the athletic ability to play it why not give it a shot. He played left guard his entire career in college.

I think Bill gave him a shot. Now Wade, Sparano, Jerry, and Jeff said, "Now let's move along."

No way McQ beats Kosier in TC but it could happen later in the year if Kosier isn't playing well. He was one of the few bright spots on the oline last year. Kosier has been playing LG a lot longer than McQ has so that gives him the advantage.

He was the best lineman on the team last year, IMO.

 

[InmanRoshi]

I think Bill gave him a shot. Now Wade, Sparano, Jerry, and Jeff said, "Now let's move along."

Yeah, I'm sure Bill was completely in love with McQuinstan's potential without any input or feedback at all from his offensive line coach who was grading him in practice every day.

Jerry has moved along so much that he made an effort to point out that he was going to move to LG and given a chance to start in his post draft PC.

 

[CF74]

Well it wouldn't hurt to try him out and he's definetly got some size to him. Anybody know how much he squats??

 

[theogt]

Yeah, I'm sure Bill was completely in love with McQuinstan's potential without any input or feedback at all from his offensive line coach who was grading him in practice every day.

Jerry has moved along so much that he made an effort to point out that he was going to move to LG and given a chance to start in his post draft PC.

It wouldn't be the first time he's made a decision on a lineman against the wishes of his coaches and scouts.

Heck, it wouldn't even be the 2nd time.

As for Jerry, actions speak louder than words. His actions? Sign a FA guard to a huge contract and draft two tackles high in the draft.

 

[BlueStar II]

I want to see us put the best OL on the field, let them compete in camp and may the best man win.

 

[dboyz]

It seems to me that they are moving McQuistan to a different position to give him a legitimate chance to start.

Our tackles at least year are pretty well set, with Flozell and Columbo, plus with our two draft picks, Free and Marten, we have a little more depth at the position.

I don't agree that Kosier was our best OL last year, although he may have been our most consistent. Kosier is not a great force at the point of attack and if we want to have a power running game, maybe McQuistan will be better than Kosier. There's no shame in him being moved to guard. If he does well there, he could always be moved back to tackle. Flozell played guard early in his career and later moved to tackle.

Parcells said talent-wise McQuistan had basically everything you need in an OL, size, strength, feet, etc. Some want to bash Parcells, because, shockingly he wasn't right on everything. Well, I'll take Parcells expert opinion over some internet experts in here. Also Parcells praised McQuistan's ability much more than he ever praised Petitti, so that analogy should be put to rest.

McQuistan has some talent and he should press for a starting job. I don't know why that should shock anyone.

 

[Hostile]

I'd love to see McQuistan win the job because I like a big, young OL. That said I think there will be an adjustemnt to make first before he wins the job from Kosier, and I am not that big on Kosier. It's just natural there would be some adjusting.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Assuming our young OL we just drafted come along...what would be the OL in 2008?

Free
McQuistan
Gurode
Davis
Marten

our offensive line literally changes every year lol...i think we could keep this lineup for many years to come assuming Free and Marten come along well

I would not write of Columbo at RT. Not saying you are but rather, making the point that in his second full year of starting, I'd expect him to improve greatly on what was a solid year IMO. Either way, I'm very happy we are investing in the OL, at last. It's been way over due IMO.

 

[Champsheart]

I would not write of Columbo at RT. Not saying you are but rather, making the point that in his second full year of starting, I'd expect him to improve greatly on what was a solid year IMO. Either way, I'm very happy we are investing in the OL, at last. It's been way over due IMO.

If he improves greatly on last year, than that will be one heck of a RT.
I think Columbo does not get enough credit around here.

 

[cobra]

As opposed to the sterling pedigree of Kyle Kosier, who went with the 249th pick in the 7th round and played on 3 different teams in 3 years. A guy who the 49ers and Lions decided they wouldn't keep around, becaues Lord knows they're both so stacked on OL.

You're right ... no way McQuinstan could beat out this phenomenal specimen.

You are absolutely right, IR, despite your sarcasm.

But here is the difference that should appeal to your rationalism: we know what Kosier can do. He can be a solid starter.

We don't know what McQ can.

My point is this: he might very well end up being a Pro-Bowler or better than Kosier, but it is crazy to talk him up right now. There is absolutely no reason to think he is going to be any good. So when someone comments about him beating out Kosier (or Flo), you are talking about arguing irrationally that a guy that no rational basis to think he is going to be good at all is going to be better than a guy we know can play.

Or, to put it in other words, it makes sense to say "I hope/wish that McQ will be good and be a starter." But it makes no rational sense to say "I think he will be a starter." Based on what? Maybe he will, but no one can say they have a rational basis to suggest he might a starter. At this point, it's like saying "I think I can fly." Maybe you wish you could, but what evidence do we have that would allow you to come to that conclusion?

 

[Yeagermeister]

Assuming our young OL we just drafted come along...what would be the OL in 2008?

Free
McQuistan
Gurode
Davis
Marten

our offensive line literally changes every year lol...i think we could keep this lineup for many years to come assuming Free and Marten come along well

That would be the first time I can ever remember us having an oline made up of draft picks and no fa's.

 

[burmafrd]

Sparano was last year quite complementary about McQ. Not to mention the calls we got from other teams wanting him- letting BP know that if he put McQ on the practice squad he was gone. This was a lot more then BP.
Now Jerrah coming out about him moving to guard; why would Jerrah talk about someone in that way unless he thought- or more to the point- THE COACHES thought he would be pushing for playing time there?

 

[burmafrd]

Davis is a FA. Kind of hard to miss that $50 mill price tag.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Davis is a FA. Kind of hard to miss that $50 mill price tag.

Oooops sorry about that I didn't look close enough. :

 

[burmafrd]

Gurode will probably play at around 312 or so. If McQ were to start, that would make Gurode the midget of the line.

 

[theogt]

Sparano was last year quite complementary about McQ. Not to mention the calls we got from other teams wanting him- letting BP know that if he put McQ on the practice squad he was gone. This was a lot more then BP.
Now Jerrah coming out about him moving to guard; why would Jerrah talk about someone in that way unless he thought- or more to the point- THE COACHES thought he would be pushing for playing time there?

When was Sparano complimentary of McQ? I don't recall ever hearing a single interview by Sparano until after Parcells left.

 

[ZeroClub]

It wouldn't be the first time he's made a decision on a lineman against the wishes of his coaches and scouts.

Heck, it wouldn't even be the 2nd time.

As for Jerry, actions speak louder than words. His actions? Sign a FA guard to a huge contract and draft two tackles high in the draft.

You missed an action:

Move McQuistan to Left Guard, where he's expected to challenge for playing time.

 

[burmafrd]

Last camp Sparano was known to be happy with McQ. Now of course with BPs gag rule it was not out in quotes, but it was known.

 

[theogt]

You missed an action:

Move McQuistan to Left Guard, where he's expected to challenge for playing time.

Or it could be read as: Move McQuistan to Guard, the only place where he has a chance of making the roster.

Last camp Sparano was known to be happy with McQ. Now of course with BPs gag rule it was not out in quotes, but it was known.

That's quite the convenient response.