McQuistan to LG...

[PBJTime]

The guy is so good that he almost went undrafted. There were like 50 OL taken in front of him.

He comes here and BP says a couple nice things about him, and people have been calling for him to start ever since. Now he is going to beat out the guy we just gave a boatload of money to last season... a guy who did a good job last year. No, lets give that job to a 7th round draft pick who we haven't seen play in his 2nd year who is switching positions.

Because we all know that draft position means everything when it comes to how a player plays in the pros...

 

[burmafrd]

OGT, do some research yourself some time. It was WELL known that the staff was very happy with McQ last TC. IF you don't want to hear that, too bad.

 

[theogt]

OGT, do some research yourself some time. It was WELL known that the staff was very happy with McQ last TC. IF you don't want to hear that, too bad.

I remember reading that Sparano hated McQuistan. He thought he was horrible. Couldn't stand the guy. It was widely known that Sparano threatened to quit if McQuistan actually made the roster.

If you don't believe me, too bad. You should do your own research.

 

[burmafrd]

gee, OGT, that was so original. You need to get a job writing commercials.

 

[InmanRoshi]

You are absolutely right, IR, despite your sarcasm.

But here is the difference that should appeal to your rationalism: we know what Kosier can do. He can be a solid starter.

We don't know what McQ can.

I agree, I'm just saying that being "proven" isn't saying much when it's proven mediocrity. I also wouldn't discount McQuistan, and I think there is more there than just a Parcells man-crush. He's raw, but he's also 6'6" 320 lbs who has the feet to play LT and his genetic identical twin was an early 3rd round draft pick.

 

[burmafrd]

I think a lot of people react badly to McQ because BP liked him. There hatred of him washes over on McQ. Remember, for the ROgers and Peterman and Petitti and tucker choices, BP also got Colombo for NOTHING and went after and got Kosier who was quite solid. Not to mention BP was the one that decided early on to push Jerrah to sign the Hotel to the big contract right after he got here- As I recall. And BP was about the only one that wanted to give Gurode one more shot at center. Rivera would have been fine without the back injury. So BP was batting about .500 on his O line choices over all (even Johnson was decent and started 2 years for us). If you look hard you will find that is about as good as anyone gets in the NFL.

 

[dogberry]

Why would any team call the Cowboys warning them not to put a player on the Practice Squad?

 

[theogt]

I think a lot of people react badly to McQ because BP liked him. There hatred of him washes over on McQ. Remember, for the ROgers and Peterman and Petitti and tucker choices, BP also got Colombo for NOTHING and went after and got Kosier who was quite solid. Not to mention BP was the one that decided early on to push Jerrah to sign the Hotel to the big contract right after he got here- As I recall. And BP was about the only one that wanted to give Gurode one more shot at center. Rivera would have been fine without the back injury. So BP was batting about .500 on his O line choices over all (even Johnson was decent and started 2 years for us). If you look hard you will find that is about as good as anyone gets in the NFL.

I think that's one of the silliest things I've ever heard you say.

It's much more likely that they don't think he can beat out a proven starter with a long-term contract because he's a late round project that has next to zero experience at the position.

If BP has had an effect on any position in this discussion its on the supporters. If BP had never mentioned his name, he would have a fraction of the "fans" he has now.

 

[burmafrd]

word is that the Boys were approached about McQ at the end of camp after the first exhibition game he played in and looked pretty good. Also BP got some calls from some friends about McQ as well. Enough interest was shown that told the boys that putting McQ on the practice squad meant losing him.

 

[burmafrd]

Oh, come on OGT. The act is growing very old. .

 

[theogt]

Oh, come on OGT. The act is growing very old. .

Sorry. I will cease and desist and begin agreeing with everything you post immediately.

 

[burmafrd]

now that would surely kill me.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Ok I keep seeing people refer to his twin brother as the reason he can be great. Even though he is an identical twin it doesn't mean he has the exact ability. It would be great if he ends up playing like a 2nd rounder but it's not guaranteed.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

The guy is so good that he almost went undrafted. There were like 50 OL taken in front of him.

He comes here and BP says a couple nice things about him, and people have been calling for him to start ever since. Now he is going to beat out the guy we just gave a boatload of money to last season... a guy who did a good job last year. No, lets give that job to a 7th round draft pick who we haven't seen play in his 2nd year who is switching positions.

Kosier's contract is relatively cheap

and why does everyone have to bash a player to get their point across?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

As opposed to the sterling pedigree of Kyle Kosier, who went with the 249th pick in the 7th round and played on 3 different teams in 3 years. A guy who the 49ers and Lions decided they wouldn't keep around, becaues Lord knows they're both so stacked on OL.

You're right ... no way McQuinstan could beat out this phenomenal specimen.

again, why do people go to broad extremes to try to get their point across? Kosier was an asset last year

I'm w/ most of these guys, to assume that McQ is going to beat anyone out for a starting position is wishful thinking, and I think the world of him, he's just too raw

 

[Chocolate Lab]

What the?... All this because Portland said he liked what he saw of McQ in person with his own eyes and predicted he might win a job over a journeyman starter?

What was so wrong with what Portland said? I didn't see anyone betting their life savings on McQ being our starting G. Most just said that he *might* have a better chance of starting over Kosier vs. over anyone else.

Cobra, I usually agree with you, but saying McQ could start isn't like saying we can fly. It's been proven that we can't fly... It hasn't been proven that McQ doesn't have starting talent. That's what the coaches are trying to find out.

And even if he proves to be less than a starter, there's nothing wrong with getting a talented, solid backup with a seventh round pick.

Really, people... It's just the first minicamp. For all we know, a T on the roster will blow out a knee this weekend (God forbid), or one of the rookies will prove in TC that he can't play, or something... And McQ will go right back to T.

But for now, the coaches are just trying different options to see what might be the best combination of players out there.

 

[Portland Fanatic]

What the?... All this because Portland said he liked what he saw of McQ in person with his own eyes and predicted he might win a job over a journeyman starter?

What was so wrong with what Portland said? I didn't see anyone betting their life savings on McQ being our starting G. Most just said that he *might* have a better chance of starting over Kosier vs. over anyone else.

Cobra, I usually agree with you, but saying McQ could start isn't like saying we can fly. It's been proven that we can't fly... It hasn't been proven that McQ doesn't have starting talent. That's what the coaches are trying to find out.

And even if he proves to be less than a starter, there's nothing wrong with getting a talented, solid backup with a seventh round pick.

Really, people... It's just the first minicamp. For all we know, a T on the roster will blow out a knee this weekend (God forbid), or one of the rookies will prove in TC that he can't play, or something... And McQ will go right back to T.

But for now, the coaches are just trying different options to see what might be the best combination of players out there.

You said it better then I could've...I'm simply saying I think the kid has talent and I see why the coaches are high on him. He's very athletic. Now he may fail miserably, but I don't think so. Kosier is a solid player...my point a solid player. Anyone just solid in this league can get beat out.

Some can throw as many paper stats at me as you want, but what I'm saying is that this kid is a BIG good athlete...good luck to him. My prediction is in total fun...with the fact I think he can do it.

 

[CaptainQuint]

I thought he looked good at left tackle against New Orleans last preseason, after Flozell had the leg injury.
After that, I seriously watched his twin, Paul, against the Chargers on opening Sunday. Paul had some problems, but not as many as Gallery(who cheap-shot hit Olshansky).
I've read that Pat is left-handed, and Paul is right-handed, and doesn't that give Pat an advantage for playing the left side? We may have scored the rarer half of the zygote split,
Pat could have played LT last year, and he might have played better than Flozell did in Philadelphia.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

This will be an interesting mood.....

 

[LucaBrasi]

Kosier was our best lineman last year