Mel Kiper draft grade

shabazz said:
each draft class has to be analyzed differently and this was one where business as usual sometimes doesnt work by standing pat, hence the Schoonmaker pick…….I hope he becomes a baller but we would like to see the FO get more aggressive and move up to increase the odds of getting a difference maker

having said that, I still like and appreciate the Mazi pick
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But they are consistent. Let’s call it what it is. The Schoonmaker pick is Jaylon, Joseph, Wright….this is them not playing it safe but hitting for a homerun. They didn’t panic and land on Schoonmaker this is who they wanted. Getting Deuce Vaughn in the 6th is not random. I bet if they post their mock draft the majority of these players are there. They have shown their board is just completely different than others and maybe they’ve earned that.
 
CowboyoWales said:
Yea, but that's the conceptual approach. With Mazi we're going to (hopefully) get more '3rd and Long' situations + with Gilmore = better field position.

There's also the 'hope' about potential pass-rush abilities, but even if he doesnt reach that potential, his bulk is going to warrant double teaming and help the rest of our rushers (I bet Osa benefits).
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I think another thing is it makes guys jobs easier. Mazi will make those around him better. Hanskins can play even less snaps.
 
Diehardblues said:
Bland is also a concern because it might not take us over the top.

Taking risk if you know what you’re doing can turn a team around must faster.

Until we can finally knock the championship door down we will continue to get passed by teams who look to make more noise instead of safe, less riskier or Bland drafts which do allow the Cowboys to remain relative.
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Well let’s call it what it is though. Eagles took a major step forward because of Jalen Hurts. All these moves are great Howie is making but at the end of the day Jalen Hurts has been a big part of why they did what they did last year.

And I’m confused what are you suggesting they should do in order to make riskier moves?
 
TheMarathonContinues said:
But they are consistent. Let’s call it what it is. The Schoonmaker pick is Jaylon, Joseph, Wright….this is them not playing it safe but hitting for a homerun. They didn’t panic and land on Schoonmaker this is who they wanted. Getting Deuce Vaughn in the 6th is not random. I bet if they post their mock draft the majority of these players are there. They have shown their board is just completely different than others and maybe they’ve earned that.
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Makes sense.

They passed on much better RBs too.
 
TheMarathonContinues said:
Well let’s call it what it is though. Eagles took a major step forward because of Jalen Hurts. All these moves are great Howie is making but at the end of the day Jalen Hurts has been a big part of why they did what they did last year.

And I’m confused what are you suggesting they should do in order to make riskier moves?
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I agree, Hurts is a big part of that. But they also haven’t sat still with more aggressive moves.

Riskier moves would include moving in the draft to land better picks or picks you truly want instead of sitting there waiting for it to come to you.

While our drafts have been better in recent years we still have had enough misses on early picks especially on defense this era which has limited more success.

If Bland is going to be the method you can’t just hit it big on 1 draft pick a year while little activity in FA. That doesn’t do enough to keep up with Cap casualties.
 
speedkilz88 said:
Kraft is raw as a receiver and blocker.
Strange is more of an Hback and also is pretty raw at receiving and blocking himself.

Harbaugh's scheme prepared him for the nfl but was geared to run the ball. The ac injury didn't help.
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Which is interesting considering Mike McCarthy has made it clear that he wants to run the football. This draft shows to me that he does want to run the football.
 
CowboyoWales said:
Yep....even looking at how well LVE played when playing behind a run-stuffer(as opposed to games when Hankins was out). Keep those big boys fresh.
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I agree. And I think that's what people are failing to realize. People say oh they did ok agains the 49ers and Eagles....that's not what its about. If you have the chance to shore up a weakness and help your guys like Parsons play better why on earth wouldn't you do it?
 
Diehardblues said:
I agree, Hurts is a big part of that. But they also haven’t sat still with more aggressive moves.

Riskier moves would include moving in the draft to land better picks or picks you truly want instead of sitting there waiting for it to come to you.

While our drafts have been better in recent years we still have had enough misses on early picks especially on defense this era which has limited more success.

If Bland is going to be the method you can’t just hit it big on 1 draft pick a year while little activity in FA. That doesn’t do enough to keep up with Cap casualties.
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Few things....

Eagles have no sat on their hands. They are aggressive. Constantly moving. AS much crap as I give Howie about his drafting he does a great job at using the cap and getting out from bad deals and bad players. Can't take that from him.

But how he operates and how Dallas operates is totally different. I'm not entirely sure if one is the correct approach and one isn't. ITS easy to say that because they were in the SB last year but Cowboys are right there with them as a team. They on 12 games in spite of losing their franchise QB for 5 games. So that alone says we have a good thing going here. Eagles when they lost Hurts didn't look nearly as competent.

WE've tried the aggressive approach before. It didn't work out for us. This approach seems to work better for what Dallas does.

Let's give this team their due. They do a good job of finding diamond in the roughs. They found Kearse. Gave Malik Hooker a shot when most didn't. Donovan Wilson in the 6th round. Bland in the 5th. Lawrence in a trade up in the 2nd. Diggs in the 2nd round. Micah Parsons was a risk that many teams didn't want to take because they just saw him as a linebacker.

The moves are different but they are just as good as what the Eagles have done.
 
PAPPYDOG said:
If Mazi can work out to be a STUD the rest is just gravy.
Hence this draft will be a major success!!!
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If a stud means he plugs the middle that’s very likely. If a stud means impacting the passing game that’s something he’s hasn’t done in college much at all
 
morasp said:
B+
I don't think we did enough at the skill positions on offense but time will tell. If Gallup can get back to 2019 2020 form we might be ok if Cooks stays healthy. The draft indicates MM was being true to his word when he said he wanted to run the ball more. Something about this year reminds me of the Jimmy Johnson years. Within the division he had to get past Buddy Ryan and the Eagles and to get to the Super Bowl he had to get past the 49ers. Fans should welcome the challenge of competition. That's what makes football so fun.

Luke was the best blocking TE with the traits to develop into the best receiving TE we've had for quite a while. Let's face it TEs usually take a while to start producing in the receiving dept. and his blocking should develop more quickly with the pro style offense Michigan ran. So I see him contributing early. Lunda Wells is a good TEs coach.

Richards is a very experienced OL with strong lower body made for run blocking.

Vaughn and Luepke are great additions, both are good and productive runners and receivers. Vaughn logged 1872 and 1936 yards from scrimmage in 2021 and 2022

Brooks is also a good pick with great hands and ball skills along with good RAC ability.

On defense the needle is pointing up. Our defense is moving in the direction of our playoff nemesis the 49ers. Mazi Smith/Hankins Odighizuwa/Golston/Gallimore/Fehoko Williams Parsons Lawrence Fowler. LVE Cox Clark Overshown. I'm really excited to see DQ turn these guys into the next doomsday defense.

Much like the deep threat I wanted on offense Smith will make the defense better even without getting a lot of stats.

I'm very excited to see how Overshown develops he looks like another high energy player that gets home.

Fehoko is also a high energy/production player that could be very disruptive on running and passing downs. He reminds me of Tuli Tuipulotu who was taken earlier.

Like Bland last year I know nothing about Eric Scott but the fact that they were willing to trade a fifth round pick next year tells me they really liked him.
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Overshown I really like. I think Quinn will use him much like he does Kearse and Kearse is a FA after the season
 
TheMarathonContinues said:
I agree. And I think that's what people are failing to realize. People say oh they did ok agains the 49ers and Eagles....that's not what its about. If you have the chance to shore up a weakness and help your guys like Parsons play better why on earth wouldn't you do it?
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Right.

You want the pieces around so your star player can be a star.
 
I'm most excited to see the defensive players they took. The TE and RB mehh!
 
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