Mel Kiper sees Todd Gurley as Cowboys best 'fit'

[dallasdave]

Who knows? They might trade for him.

But then you would have to consider that Minnesota would be in the market for a back themselves at 17 or 24, whomever their trade partner would be.

Good point, we might be 3rd in line for a RB.

 

[AsthmaField]

Would love it myself but I'm afraid it's wishful thinking.

With the Chargers and Cards needing RB support so badly, I don't think there's a whisper of a chance he falls to us, never mind another team scooping him up when they surprisingly see he's dropped so far. In the event we did trade up, which I think would be foolish, you can kiss that 2nd or 3rd goodbye. Maybe both depending on how high up the move would be.

I still say our best option is the 3rd round for a RB but I like the way you think.

You're probably right that Gurley is gone before 27 and you may be right that Gordon is too, but I don't think it is a foregone conclusion that it'll happen that way.

With the RB class being so deep and with how teams feel like they can find a runner outside of round 1, I could see San Diego going with OL or edge rusher at number 17. If you needed OL badly, would you rather take an OL in the first and then pick from Ajayi, Duke Johnson, and Tevin Coleman, or would you rather take RB in the first and then pick out of whatever is left over on the OL? I can't tell you what San Diego will do, but I can tell you that just about every NFL team will want to go with the elite OL and find a Eddie Lacey or Le'Veon Bell in the second round.

Now, we all know that Gurley is supposed to be special, so maybe they go ahead with a runner at 17, but I wouldn't be too surprised if they went somewhere else and took their runner later... particularly if you throw in Gurley's knee.

Frankly, if Dallas picked 17th, I probably wouldn't want them to take Gurley either. There will be guys like Dupree, or La'el Collins available that just make a ton more sense for SD there.

As for Arizona, they will have a very good WR or two staring them in the face, and probably a highly rated OL as well. If SD takes Gurley, would they take Gordon over somebody else? Maybe but I wouldn't bet the farm on it.

I could see Gordon or even Gordon and Gurley there when Dallas picks. I do think there is a good chance Gurley is gone though, but his knee gives me a small hope. Gordon very well might be there.

Man, the draft is taking forever to get here...

 

[USMarineVet]

Good point, we might be 3rd in line for a RB.

I'm sure we'll get a quality back. Who that will be we'll find out a month from tomorrow!

It's gonna be a long month. LOL

 

[USMarineVet]

You're probably right that Gurley is gone before 27 and you may be right that Gordon is too, but I don't think it is a foregone conclusion that it'll happen that way.

With the RB class being so deep and with how teams feel like they can find a runner outside of round 1, I could see San Diego going with OL or edge rusher at number 17. If you needed OL badly, would you rather take an OL in the first and then pick from Ajayi, Duke Johnson, and Tevin Coleman, or would you rather take RB in the first and then pick out of whatever is left over on the OL? I can't tell you what San Diego will do, but I can tell you that just about every NFL team will want to go with the elite OL and find a Eddie Lacey or Le'Veon Bell in the second round.

Now, we all know that Gurley is supposed to be special, so maybe they go ahead with a runner at 17, but I wouldn't be too surprised if they went somewhere else and took their runner later... particularly if you throw in Gurley's knee.

Frankly, if Dallas picked 17th, I probably wouldn't want them to take Gurley either. There will be guys like Dupree, or La'el Collins available that just make a ton more sense for SD there.

As for Arizona, they will have a very good WR or two staring them in the face, and probably a highly rated OL as well. If SD takes Gurley, would they take Gordon over somebody else? Maybe but I wouldn't bet the farm on it.

I could see Gordon or even Gordon and Gurley there when Dallas picks. I do think there is a good chance Gurley is gone though, but his knee gives me a small hope. Gordon very well might be there.

Man, the draft is taking forever to get here...

I agree with you 100%.

One thing the draft has taught us it never unfolds the way the gurus see it. One team going off track from these mocks and it can change the outcome entirely.

And as you said, Gurley's knee issue could be the deciding factor in how far he drops, if he drops. A trade up by someone could change the whole makeup as well.

Personally, I'm hoping we address our RB in the 3rd. I would love to see us continue to remake the D-Line by the same blueprint we did our O.

We'll see in a month... And yes... I wish it would get here too..

 

[AsthmaField]

I agree with you 100%.

One thing the draft has taught us it never unfolds the way the gurus see it. One team going off track from these mocks and it can change the outcome entirely.

And as you said, Gurley's knee issue could be the deciding factor in how far he drops, if he drops. A trade up by someone could change the whole makeup as well.

Personally, I'm hoping we address our RB in the 3rd. I would love to see us continue to remake the D-Line by the same blueprint we did our O.

We'll see in a month... And yes... I wish it would get here too..

Yeah, I expect a RB in the first 3 rounds. If I had to guess, I'd probably split the difference and say the 2nd. They had success with Murray in the 3rd and they might go that way again.

My whole thing with a RB at 27 (and I normally don't want a RB in the first) is that Gurley or Gordon very well could be the BPA by a mile when it gets to our pick. If that's the case, with all the DL being picked over already and the LB's not being highly enough rated, then take the highly rated runner if the franchise has determined he is BPA and a true difference maker.

I guess I expect the guys Dallas wants to be really picked over and the choices limited. In that case, I'm fine with a RB in the first if he's special. I can see the team having one or both of Gurley and Gordon ranked as special players, so I can see it falling that way.

 

[AZ_Cowboys_Fan]

I happen to agree wholeheartedly.



Let's make a move to get Gurley then go DL in the 2nd and ILB in the 3rd.

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"Who the hell is Mel Kiper, anyways" ?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

If teams think he will be ready for TC he likely won't be available.

Maybe but teams have not been able to work him out and until he works out he always carries the risk of being damaged goods. He may come back and be robbed of some that athletic balance he has that sets him apart. I'm sure there are a fair number of teams that will still drop him.

Nevermind that he has been coy about the knee's condition and shy about examination of it.

 

[xwalker]

Maybe but teams have not been able to work him out and until he works out he always carries the risk of being damaged goods. He may come back and be robbed of some that athletic balance he has that sets him apart. I'm sure there are a fair number of teams that will still drop him.

Nevermind that he has been coy about the knee's condition and shy about examination of it.

I thought there was a set date for a re-exam in April. I'm assuming that it will be re-examined before the draft and the outcome of that will determine if he will be available at #27.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I thought there was a set date for a re-exam in April. I'm assuming that it will be re-examined before the draft and the outcome of that will determine if he will be available at #27.

He will only be 5 months post op by draft time. He declined examination in Indy and has set no such date that I have seen.

 

[xwalker]

He will only be 5 months post op by draft time. He declined examination in Indy and has set no such date that I have seen.

I was going by reports like this one:
02/20/2015 - Georgia running back Todd Gurley is projected as a first-round pick, but a big piece of his final draft evaluation will be medical tests on his surgically repaired knee. Gurley plans to wait for the official medical re-check in April to allow teams to examine his left knee. He tore the anterior cruciate ligament November 15 -- in his first game back from a suspension handed down Oct. 9 for receiving payment for his autograph -- and surgery was performed by renowned surgeon Dr. James Andrews. Andrews did not want teams pulling and manipulating the knee.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I was going by reports like this one:
02/20/2015 - Georgia running back Todd Gurley is projected as a first-round pick, but a big piece of his final draft evaluation will be medical tests on his surgically repaired knee. Gurley plans to wait for the official medical re-check in April to allow teams to examine his left knee. He tore the anterior cruciate ligament November 15 -- in his first game back from a suspension handed down Oct. 9 for receiving payment for his autograph -- and surgery was performed by renowned surgeon Dr. James Andrews. Andrews did not want teams pulling and manipulating the knee.

I brought up the 6 month because of what Andrews said. He said taht he did not want the knee messed with during the recovery period and that it was 6-12 months. He had his surgery Nov 26 and the Draft is April 30.

While the swelling and such is likely completely gone, who knows where his range of motion etc will be; it certainly won't be all the way back which necessitates a projection.

 

[xwalker]

I brought up the 6 month because of what Andrews said. He said taht he did not want the knee messed with during the recovery period and that it was 6-12 months. He had his surgery Nov 26 and the Draft is April 30.

While the swelling and such is likely completely gone, who knows where his range of motion etc will be; it certainly won't be all the way back which necessitates a projection.

It seems to come down to team philosophy. Some teams may feel they must get contributions from a 1st round pick immediately, while some might be OK waiting.

It seems that at worst case he might have to go on the PUP and be ready for week 7. That puts him at 10 to 11 months out from surgery.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It seems to come down to team philosophy. Some teams may feel they must get contributions from a 1st round pick immediately, while some might be OK waiting.

It seems that at worst case he might have to go on the PUP and be ready for week 7. That puts him at 10 to 11 months out from surgery.

Again, they will not be able to get his athletic metrics nor know how well he is recovered from the surgery when all is said and done. It's a risk. Worst case scenario is that he loses flexibility, speed, and power. ACL surgery is well developed but it is not a certainty of full recovery.