Melton Deal vs Hatcher Deal

[ABQCOWBOY]

5 years 53.327 - SB 15 million
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cincinnati-bengals/geno-atkins/

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...kins-bengals-sign-fiveyear-contract-extension

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Breaking-down-Geno-Atkins-5475-million-deal.html

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...s-geno-atkins-agree-to-5year-55-mil-extension

OK, I see. You are talking about this years salary. The discussion was based on what they made last year. Couldn't figure out why the numbers were not sinking up.

 

[speedkilz88]

OK, I see. You are talking about this years salary. The discussion was based on what they made last year. Couldn't figure out why the numbers were not sinking up.

He signed that contract last year. 2013

Before that he was on his rookie contract.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

He signed that contract last year. 2013

Right, but he didn't make this

2014__1,500,000_2,250,000__3,750,000__10,500,000

last year, which is why I didn't understand why the figures you were working off of didn't match what I was seeing. Again, the earlier discussions were around 2013 Salaries.

 

[speedkilz88]

Right, but he didn't make this

2014__1,500,000_2,250,000__3,750,000__10,500,000

last year, which is why I didn't understand why the figures you were working off of didn't match what I was seeing. Again, the earlier discussions were around 2013 Salaries.

In 2013 he was slated to make 1.4 million (off his rookie contract) They extended him and gave him more than that (15 million SB) 4 million base.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

In 2013 he was slated to make 1.4 million (off his rookie contract) They extended him and gave him more than that (15 million SB) 4 million base.

Right, I understand. What I'm saying is the numbers you referenced reflected 2014 salaries. That's not what was discussed, heretofore. That's all I'm saying.

 

[speedkilz88]

Right, I understand. What I'm saying is the numbers you referenced reflected 2014 salaries. That's not what was discussed, heretofore. That's all I'm saying.

He made 4 million base and got a 15 million signing bonus in September of 2013 so yes those numbers were for 2013 too.

But anyway your whole point was Melton wasn't worth his contract compared to other players contracts. And as I've proven you were off base. No way to sign any of them last year also.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Well, here is what it reflects for 2013:

Year 2013 - Base 4,000,000 - S Bonus 3,118,114 - Cap Hit 7,118,114 - Dead Cap 15,118,114


Which doesn't look like this:

2014__1,500,000_2,250,000__3,750,000__10,500,000

So no, I don't think it is.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cincinnati-bengals/geno-atkins/

 

[Nightman]

The way it's written up, it's a one year deal that could be spread over two years. That's what I'm saying. The Skins have flexibility to do what they want here, based on what they can afford.

Why do you keep clinging to the "one year" deal? They are not paying Hatcher 10.5m for one year. It's at least a 2 year 13.5m deal, which is very fair.

It would cost them 1.5m more in cap space to cut him in 2015 vs keeping him.

 

[speedkilz88]

Why do you keep clinging to the "one year" deal? They are not paying Hatcher 10.5m for one year. It's at least a 2 year 13.5m deal, which is very fair.

It would cost them 1.5m more in cap space to cut him in 2015 vs keeping him.

Seems fair if he's playing 3tech DT.
I think it's high if your playing Hatcher at end in a 3-4.

 

[Nightman]

Seems fair if he's playing 3tech DT.
I think it's high if your playing Hatcher at end in a 3-4.

More than I would pay for him, but according to the market and the year Hatcher had, it's not bad. You always have to a pay a premium to add a Free Agent. I was responding more to ABC insisting that Washington was only looking at it as a one year 10.5m deal, which would be crazy for a 3-4 DE.