***MERGED McNabb thread w/vomit vid***

[TRUTH87]

Lmao. Mcnabb..he reminded me of the 'Grand Theft Auto' guy throwing up after eating too much... lol

 

[Maikeru-sama]

I watched the whole game, and I can say that McPuke made some plays, however, he also made his share of mistakes to lose that game.

He underthrows a receiver with seconds to go, instead of going to the endzone. He throws Ints...he wasted a timeout while puking his guts out...and these are just some of the obvious things he does.

He absoutely DOES NOT DESERVE all this media darling stuff like, "he's probably the best player in the NFL...he's on pace for the league MVP...he's clearly a winner...blah, blah, blah..."!

He's an OK QB, but, he is not the god that everyone thinks he is...and the reason that you MUST NOT CRITIZE HIM is because of political correctness...

If anyone wants to blame the heat on his puking his guts out, well, the other QB and players were also in the heat...I did not hear or see any of them chokeing...

If anyone wants to claim that he has no weapons except for westbrook, well, that's the fault of the "Gold Standard"...so, no pity from me...

McPuke wants to come out and say "this is my team"...well, he's got it, so he has to live with it! He had the power to keep a top rate receiver (yes a head case) yet he could not share the spotlight...is that a leader? NO!

McPuke and the eagles are irrelevant at this time, and they deserve everything that happens...

This is a new era in football...no longer are the eagles able to beat up the whole NFCE to get into the playoffs...he has to actually WORK now...and it makes him puke to know that he is not what he thinks he is, or what the media tries to make him out to be!

What a Rush!

Didn't they just beat us 2 weeks ago?

But by all means carrying on with the "irrelevant" mantra.

- Mike G.

 

[5Stars]

Didn't they just beat us 2 weeks ago?

But by all means carrying on with the "irrelevant" mantra.

- Mike G.

Tell me...how bad did they beat the Cowboys? Did you watch the game? Did the Cowboys gift them a few points to start the game? Did the Cowboy ALMOST tie it up? Did the Cowboys play a rookie FS?

Did McPuke totally destroy the Cowboys?

They are irrelevant! You keep sniffing his jock...he's an average QB, similar to QC, however, QC probably never dumped his guts on the field when the pressure was on....

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Tell me...how bad did they beat the Cowboys? Did you watch the game? Did the Cowboys gift them a few points to start the game? Did the Cowboy ALMOST tie it up? Did the Cowboys play a rookie FS?

Did McPuke totally destroy the Cowboys?

They are irrelevant! You keep sniffing his jock...he's an average QB, similar to QC, however, QC probably never dumped his guts on the field when the pressure was on....

You still wont answer my question, did they not beat us 2 weeks ago?

It is completely foolish and irresponsible to call the Eagles irrelevant at this point when they could win the Division as could we. Now if you were talking about the Commanders, I would somewhat agree.

And nice Quincy Jab, you just proved my point, you have an agenda!

- Mike G.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

To be fair to QBs, there's something wrong about a QB getting an incompletion when the receiver drops the ball.

True just like Harrington got an INT yesterday when a Miami guy bounced the ball into Woodson's hands.

 

[5Stars]

You still wont answer my question, did they not beat us 2 weeks ago?

It is completely foolish and irresponsible to call the Eagles irrelevant at this point when they could win the Division as could we.

And nice Quincy Jab, you just proved my point, you have an agenda!

- Mike G.

Yes they beat us...happy now?

No agenda from me, kiddo...I see what I see...

Uh, and I see that you did not answer any of my questions. That door swings both ways...

McPuke is not the QB that everyone says he is...at best, he is average, just like QC, or even little Manning, for that matter...

By the way, don't start the "agenda" racial stuff, OK? That is not what he is about...it's about his play, period!

 

[tyke1doe]

It appears to me you were combatting the "Overrated" label and not trying to state he was just "good". The media behaves like he is the only talent on that team. Call me daft, but I saw a five yard pass to Westbrook, which became an amazing run which bailed them out. Yet, who got the credit? Is Reggie Brown just terrible? How about L.J. Smith? He has talent around him. The cupboard isn't bare. Bare is what Favre has.

First, how many Pro Bowls has Brian Westbrooke been to? Reggie Brown? L.J. Smith?

Second, is having Donald Driver and rookie sensation Greg Jennings and Bubba Franks exactly bare?

Third, that can be said about almost any quarterback, i.e., that he's being helped by his supporting cast. Sorry, but that's the oldest argument in the book.

Perhaps my standards are high, but "Good" is barely acceptable for a QB at this level.

Really?

Above good would be great. How many quarterbacks in the NFL would you say are great?

Manning and Brady, definitely.

Anybody else? Favre? Not the current manifestation. Vick? Still isn't an accurate passer but is great as a runner. Bulger? er, good. Hasselbeck? I wouldn't necessarily call him great. Roethlisberger? Not according to that Super Bowl game.

Truth be told, there aren't many quarterbacks who are great, which is why teams strike out trying to find them high in the draft.

If you're not great, good is fine, or should be fine.

If you are just "good" then your team has to do some things to compensate. If you aren't at least that in the NFL, your team will not be a success. You might do well, make the playoffs and so on, but that player eventually becomes the reason why the team itself doesn't go above that level.

Here's what doesn't make sense. McNabb takes his team to four NFC championships with virtually no star receivers and somehow it's the defense. It couldn't be that he was a good quarterback even an above good quarterback. Nnnaaahh! That couldn't be it.

In addition, how many QBs are really said to be great quarterbacks who went to the next level (I guess you mean winning a Super Bowl since McNabb has led his team to that NEXT LEVEL but still he's not getting credit for it).

Let's see. Bart Starr, he of the dominant Packers dynasty. Terry Bradshaw, he of the dominant Steelers dynasty. Roger Staubach, he of the dominant Cowboys teams. Joe Montana, he of the dominant 49ers dynasty. Troy Aikman, he of the dominant Cowboys dynasty. John Elway, he of the great Broncos Super Bowl teams.

These I would consider "great" quarterbacks and even then every last one of those quarterbacks, with the possible exception of Elway in his early years, had dominant players on offense and defense, guys who were Pro Bowlers and MVPs.

Sprinkle in Frank Tarkenton and Jim Kelly (great QBs who got to the next level but didn't quite get it done) and then a hand full of quarterbacks who just got their moment in the son and it seems kind of ridiculous to suggest that because McNabb hasn't gotten to the NEXT LEVEL, i.e., a Super Bowl win, he's not a good quarterback or even a very good quarterback.

I don't think anyone with an ounce of sense would say that what McNabb has at his disposal is anywhere near what Aikman, Montana, Starr, Staubach and Bradshaw had at their disposal.

So forgive me if I yawn at the suggestion that talent surrounds McNabb or has surrounded him during his tenure with Philadelphia.

Teams like the Broncos and Dolphins in the 1980s-1990s had Marino and Elway, who I considered "great". Which is what they were able to do.

"Good" QBs are able to take their teams only so far.

This is interesting considering the fact that neither Elway or Marino won Super Bowls (Elway in his early years).

Secondly, are you telling me that McNabb's wide receivers are better than Marino's wide receivers (the Marks Brothers)?

My problem with McNabb is that he always does something to fall short of "great" and also has an accompanying excuse to go along with it.

Again, how are you measuring "great"?

If it's getting to the next level, then that happened to Marino, Fouts, Kelly.

If you're measuring it by stats, then McNabb has ranked high among active quarterbacks in terms of passing and running even without a strong supporting cast.

I really don't know what you mean by he falls short of "great."

In addition, are you going to say that McNabb is great if he gets to and wins a Super Bowl?

Second, What excuses has he made?

I don't recall him complaining or making excuses. Please cue me in on these apparent excuses.

 

[TobiasEagle77]

yes he was on fire. BUT.....the eagles opposition for the most part was a handful of teams with poor ranked defenses.

Also, that current complaint that mcnabb doesnt have a running game is also the reason he has so many passing yards and passing TD's. The eagles throw so much that he has way more attempts than most qb's and that is going to pad his stats alone, plus throw in the easy schedule the team started off against.

He's the same player he has always been. he's a gifted athlete and decent qb. He ususaly gets good protection but even when he doesnt he can scramble to buy time and find the open guy. But he is also inconsistent with his throws, accuracy is a problem at times, and sometimes he just makes bad decisions like his head isnt completely in the game, especially clock management.

The eagles do ask him to do quite a lot as far as carrying the team, have to give him credit there. I dont know if they put him in the best position to win games every week but that is how reid game plans.

good assesment

McNabb had a bad game. Yes he had some really good plays in the second half but they didn't make up for all his mistakes in the first half. The worst of which was the points left on the field before halftime (not the interceptions). He's not the first quarterback to have a bad game, and I admire the way he rallied back. In no way shape or form did him throwing up contribute to the loss, but it is funny and looks bad so I can understand why everyone here is enjoying it.

 

[Smashmouth24]

What a great freaking thread. I guess the Eagles & Giants just have to settle for their "average at best", franchise, quarterbacks. Have fun with whatever garbage Parcells is throwing out there next week.

 

[Polamalus_Angel]

Wow. McNabb throws three INTs, brings his team back and then loses the game because of his defense and a spectacular kick by Matt Bryant and now he's overrated again.

Give it a rest. The guy is good, considering the receivers he has to throw to.

It's not his fault that Bryant kicks one of the longest field goals in history of the game.

I agree. Donovan is not the best qb in the league but he's damn good when he's on his game. Apparently the humidity in Fl does something to him. :yathink:

 

[jem88]

I wasn't aware this thread needed your approval. But thanks for sharing. Your insight is truly unparalleled.

Way to dodge the issue at hand!