***MERGED McNabb thread w/vomit vid***

[WoodysGirl]

How about TO scores a TD tonight and mimics throwing up in his celebration:iggles: :jints:

Gotta admit, that would give me a chuckle... :laugh2:

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I'm curious how Drew Bledsoe is a better leader than Donovan McNabb?

Are posters basing the difference because McNabb couldn't handle TO?

no, because it has been reported that McNabb is a goof-off in the locker-room, trying to keep everything loose

that's a good role for the bubbly defensive player, but not your starting QB

just watch him on the sidelines yucking it up, even Michael Vick shows more poise than him

 

[Maikeru-sama]

no, because it has been reported that McNabb is a goof-off in the locker-room, trying to keep everything loose

that's a good role for the bubbly defensive player, but not your starting QB

Please!

It was reported that Brett Favre was even wrestling with some of his Offensive Lineman minutes before the Super Bowl.

Not a great example because it's college, but Vince Young was known to be extremely laid back and would sing all kinds of songs on the Sideline and even got Mac Brown to sing with him on the sidelines.

Im sure there a ton of examples of QB who didnt exactly "fit the mold" as far as what the norm is of how they were suppose to act.

- Mike G.

 

[5Stars]

Please!

It was reported that Brett Favre was even wrestling with some of his Offensive Lineman minutes before the Super Bowl.

Not a great example because it's college, but Vince Young was known to be extremely laid back and would sing all kinds of songs on the Sideline and even got Mac Brown to sing with him on the sidelines.

Im sure there a ton of examples of QB who didnt exactly "fit the mold" as far as what the norm is of how they were suppose to act.

- Mike G.

McPuke and the eagles are irrelevant...

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Please!

It was reported that Brett Favre was even wrestling with some of his Offensive Lineman minutes before the Super Bowl.

Not a great example because it's college, but Vince Young was known to be extremely laid back and would sing all kinds of songs on the Sideline and even got Mac Brown to sing with him on the sidelines.

Im sure there a ton of examples of QB who didnt exactly "fit the mold" as far as what the norm is of how they were suppose to act.

- Mike G.

true, but being a leader is showing poise, something McNabb lacks

for example, head-faking Antonio Pierce

to me, that's how Bledsoe is more of a leader than McNabb, which is what the poster I responded to was asking, not just because of what happened w/ TO

 

[Waffle]

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[wileedog]

Say what yo want about McNabb - you'd all be thrilled if he was our QB

Take him over Bledsoe? Yes.

Be thrilled about it? No. Especially since he'd be locked up with a huge long term contract that we can't get out of so we'd be stuck with a QB, who while more mobile, also makes bad decisions and has accuracy issues. Plus no cap room and no chance of improvement for the duration.

There are a lot of QBs I'd take over Bledsoe. Doesn't mean McNabb solves the QB question here in my mind.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

true, but being a leader is showing poise, something McNabb lacks

for example, head-faking Antonio Pierce

to me, that's how Bledsoe is more of a leader than McNabb, which is what the poster I responded to was asking, not just because of what happened w/ TO

There was a good post by Mike Winicki, Juke and I think LTN that talked about all the excuses Bledsoe use to make when he was play in the North East.

Heck, Peyton Manning even threw his whole Offensive Line under the bus (Let's just say we had some protection issues), which to me is kind of tacky, but I think the guy is an extremely good leader on and off the field.

Now if you wanted to talk about how alot of McNabb's teammates seemed to openly take Owens' side last year, that would be a better argument imo.

I have not read through this whole thread, so I am hoping we are just debating Bledsoe superior to McNabb as a leader, instead of Bledsoe just being a better Quarterback then McNabb, which I think would be kind of a ridiculous debate.

- Mike G.

 

[theogt]

Thank you, internet gods, for YouTube!

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I have not read through this whole thread, so I am hoping we are just debating Bledsoe superior to McNabb as a leader, instead of Bledsoe just being a better Quarterback then McNabb, which I think would be kind of a ridiculous debate.

- Mike G.

that is it, I would take McNabb over him in a heartbeat, but the argument that Bledsoe is a better leader is quite valid

I mean, challenging Key on the sidelines should be proof enough, while when TO was yelling at him, McNabb slinked away, McNabb just lacks poise

 

[tomson75]

Take him over Bledsoe? Yes.

Be thrilled about it? No. Especially since he'd be locked up with a huge long term contract that we can't get out of so we'd be stuck with a QB, who while more mobile, also makes bad decisions and has accuracy issues. Plus no cap room and no chance of improvement for the duration.

There are a lot of QBs I'd take over Bledsoe. Doesn't mean McNabb solves the QB question here in my mind.

Spot on.

 

[Martice]

Debating who is the better leader between McNabb and Drew is pointless because they both tend to lose it on the field when it counts anyway. How anyone can say that Drew has more poise than McNabb is funny at least. Drew may be cooler on the sidelines but he is a dancing fool in the pocket. He can't focus on the target when the bullets are flying over head. So you have a fearless leader when the sky is clear but he makes mistakes like a rookie when D day comes.

Drew = No leadership by example

McNabb may not carry himself "like a leader" on the sideline but when he was in the huddle, he let TO know quickly that he was having none of his antics. Unfortunately, acting like "homie the clown" on the sideline doesn't get you the Patten award for leadership either. If your team is down then let your play do the talking.

McNabb = Homie ain't no leader on the sideline.

Right now, if I were a betting man, I'd take McNabb over Drew at any point in his career. Although it may get me the same results at the end (choke), I think I would go further with McNabb at the helm.

 

[Alexander]

Yes, especially when you're a Cowboys homer who can't see through his star-colored glasses.

I'm glad the Eagles loss as it helps the Cowboys position.

But my support of the Cowboys doesn't mean I have to disrespect other players because they're on a rival.

McNabb is a good quarterback, one of the best in the league. And the fact that he has never really had great receivers (except for THE PLAYER) and the fact that he's never been protected by a running game and the fact that he has taken FOUR Eagles teams to the NFC Championship are facts that only the most homerific on this board can deny.

I guess what they say is true. It aint just a river in Egypt.

He was huffing, puffing and regurgitating in the Super Bowl as well, with talented wide receivers.

But I suppose that is just him being great and everything.

The fact is simple. It's always something with McNabb. He's hurt, he is being "attacked", he has the "weight of the city on his shoulders". his supporting cast isn't good enough, he needs a running game. He never gets blamed and always is a victim of something or someone.

He is a good quarterback who will never be great until he can learn to avoid being the cause of his own failures. It is McNabb who has failed to win the big one. It is McNabb who has vomited his chances away. It is McNabb who had given 14 points to Tampa Bay and that required this "courageous" comeback.

You want people to give him his due? How about acknowledging his mistakes? Nobody ever seems to do that. If they do, it gets lost in the sea of excuses and pandering.

 

[Alexander]

no, because it has been reported that McNabb is a goof-off in the locker-room, trying to keep everything loose

that's a good role for the bubbly defensive player, but not your starting QB

just watch him on the sidelines yucking it up, even Michael Vick shows more poise than him

He is a strange one. The announcers love to talk about how they "want to see Donovan's smile", but they conveniently avoid the way he mopes around and sulks when they do not go well. When things are great, he's right there, grinning away. When they are not going well, he sulks at the end of the bench. That's a great leader?

 

[wileedog]

Debating who is the better leader between McNabb and Drew is pointless because they both tend to lose it on the field when it counts anyway. How anyone can say that Drew has more poise than McNabb is funny at least. Drew may be cooler on the sidelines but he is a dancing fool in the pocket. He can't focus on the target when the bullets are flying over head. So you have a fearless leader when the sky is clear but he makes mistakes like a rookie when D day comes.

Drew = No leadership by example

McNabb may not carry himself "like a leader" on the sideline but when he was in the huddle, he let TO know quickly that he was having none of his antics. Unfortunately, acting like "homie the clown" on the sideline doesn't get you the Patten award for leadership either. If your team is down then let your play do the talking.

McNabb = Homie ain't no leader on the sideline.

Right now, if I were a betting man, I'd take McNabb over Drew at any point in his career. Although it may get me the same results at the end (choke), I think I would go further with McNabb at the helm.

Problem is I don't think McNabb would last 5 minutes with Parcells anyway.

 

[Martice]

Problem is I don't think McNabb would last 5 minutes with Parcells anyway.

touche

 

[dboyz]

McNabb is a darn good QB, who was playing better than any QB in the league this year until sunday. He should not be judged on one game.

 

[Rampage]

Problem is I don't think McNabb would last 5 minutes with Parcells anyway.

 

[5Stars]

Here is a good one for you...

I was reading an eagle board and they are saying that Gruden snuck in a practice ball to replace the k-ball when Reid called that timeout before that 62 yard kick that won the game...

Now, that is pretty pathetic of their "fandoms" to even go that far to suggest such a thing!

 

[superpunk]

Here is a good one for you...

I was reading an eagle board and they are saying that Gruden snuck in a practice ball to replace the k-ball when Reid called that timeout before that 62 yard kick that won the game...

Now, that is pretty pathetic of their "fandoms" to even go that far to suggest such a thing!

Teams bring their own kick balls, I think.