***MERGED McNabb thread w/vomit vid***

[Charles]

Gotta admit, that would give me a chuckle... :laugh2:

Just to make sure everyone knows he's mimicking McNabb, he can throw in the McNabb/Michael Jackson leg kick and moonwalk just before puking.

 

[Hoov]

McNabb is a darn good QB, who was playing better than any QB in the league this year until sunday. He should not be judged on one game.

yes he was on fire. BUT.....the eagles opposition for the most part was a handful of teams with poor ranked defenses.

Also, that current complaint that mcnabb doesnt have a running game is also the reason he has so many passing yards and passing TD's. The eagles throw so much that he has way more attempts than most qb's and that is going to pad his stats alone, plus throw in the easy schedule the team started off against.

He's the same player he has always been. he's a gifted athlete and decent qb. He ususaly gets good protection but even when he doesnt he can scramble to buy time and find the open guy. But he is also inconsistent with his throws, accuracy is a problem at times, and sometimes he just makes bad decisions like his head isnt completely in the game, especially clock management.

The eagles do ask him to do quite a lot as far as carrying the team, have to give him credit there. I dont know if they put him in the best position to win games every week but that is how reid game plans.

 

[tyke1doe]

He is a good quarterback who will never be great until he can learn to avoid being the cause of his own failures.

Short and simple and the point I was trying to make all along.

Thank you for the acknowledgement.

Or I should say, Donovan thanks you.

 

[tyke1doe]

no, because it has been reported that McNabb is a goof-off in the locker-room, trying to keep everything loose

that's a good role for the bubbly defensive player, but not your starting QB

just watch him on the sidelines yucking it up, even Michael Vick shows more poise than him

Wow.

You're really grasping for straws aren't you.

I guess Favre pulling his offensive lineman's pants down in practice and carrying Driver on his back means he's not a leader.

 

[tyke1doe]

Or not. It was one of those statements in which the person is trying to be half funny - half truthful. It was pretty ridiculous regardless of his true intent.

Well, most things said in jest are ridiculous.

And he said it with a smirk on his face.

 

[dougonthebench]

that video is FUNNY!!!!

 

[WV Cowboy]

I don't care if he is good or not.

I don't care for the guy, .. wouldn't want him as our QB.
He is no leader.

Didn't care for him at Syracuse.

I love to see him struggle,
love to see him lose,
love to see him get sacked,
love to see him throw pics, ... especially ones that go for six the other way(thank you Roy & Rhonde)
love seeing him puking late in games, (whats up with that, can't say I remember seeing many QB's do that )
Maybe he shouldn't have had that second bowl of chunky soup at halftime !

Who will he blame since Owens is gone??

Good game Donnie !:

 

[Kangaroo]

Seriously, I mean, how can someone put this loss at his feet? He only threw 2 pick sixes! The Philly defense should have stepped up and stopped those other scoring drives! I mean, he came back against one of the best defenses in the NFL right?

That's right it is all on the eagles defenses for giving up 9 points compared to Mcnabb giving up 14

 

[Alexander]

Short and simple and the point I was trying to make all along.

Thank you for the acknowledgement.

Or I should say, Donovan thanks you.

It appears to me you were combatting the "Overrated" label and not trying to state he was just "good". The media behaves like he is the only talent on that team. Call me daft, but I saw a five yard pass to Westbrook, which became an amazing run which bailed them out. Yet, who got the credit? Is Reggie Brown just terrible? How about L.J. Smith? He has talent around him. The cupboard isn't bare. Bare is what Favre has.

Perhaps my standards are high, but "Good" is barely acceptable for a QB at this level. If you are just "good" then your team has to do some things to compensate. If you aren't at least that in the NFL, your team will not be a success. You might do well, make the playoffs and so on, but that player eventually becomes the reason why the team itself doesn't go above that level.

Teams like the Broncos and Dolphins in the 1980s-1990s had Marino and Elway, who I considered "great". Which is what they were able to do.

"Good" QBs are able to take their teams only so far.

My problem with McNabb is that he always does something to fall short of "great" and also has an accompanying excuse to go along with it.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

It appears to me you were combatting the "Overrated" label and not trying to state he was just "good". The media behaves like he is the only talent on that team. Call me daft, but I saw a five yard pass to Westbrook, which became an amazing run which bailed them out. Yet, who got the credit? Is Reggie Brown just terrible? How about L.J. Smith? He has talent around him. The cupboard isn't bare. Bare is what Favre has.

Perhaps my standards are high, but "Good" is barely acceptable for a QB at this level. If you are just "good" then your team has to do some things to compensate. If you aren't at least that in the NFL, your team will not be a success. You might do well, make the playoffs and so on, but that player eventually becomes the reason why the team itself doesn't go above that level.

Teams like the Broncos and Dolphins in the 1980s-1990s had Marino and Elway, who I considered "great". Which is what they were able to do.

"Good" QBs are able to take their teams only so far.

My problem with McNabb is that he always does something to fall short of "great" and also has an accompanying excuse to go along with it.

And we have less than "good".

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Wow.

You're really grasping for straws aren't you.

I guess Favre pulling his offensive lineman's pants down in practice and carrying Driver on his back means he's not a leader.

And we have less than "good".

 

[lspain1]

Is Reggie Brown just terrible? How about L.J. Smith? He has talent around him. The cupboard isn't bare.

My problem with McNabb is that he always does something to fall short of "great" and also has an accompanying excuse to go along with it.

I wonder how many commenting in this thread actually watched the game on Sunday. I did. I despise the Eagles...but if you watched the game, you would not question McNabb's heart and desire.

Reggie Brown and L.J. Smith both made critical mistakes that cost the Eagles points. L.J. Smith at the end of the 1st half and Reggie Brown in the fouth quarter. McNabb made mistakes that put his team behind. If his receivers hadn't been poo-poo at critical moments, McNabb's mistakes wouldn't have mattered because the game would not have been close. McNabb literally carried his team with his legs for a key score and Westbrook accomplished the rest late in that game.

You act like Reid could plug in "any guy" and get that job done with the Eagle's talent. That is simply untrue.

 

[theogt]

I love the use of the term "poo" in this thread.

 

[Alexander]

I wonder how many commenting in this thread actually watched the game on Sunday. I did. I despise the Eagles...but if you watched the game, you would not question McNabb's heart and desire.

No.

He has guts. Sometimes. Other times he pukes them out.

{rimshot}

I tire of hearing about "guts". Real guts don't come from the things you don't hear about, read about or watch. They happen all the time and you don't notice and you surely don't need a master of the obvious announcer to point them out to you. Unless of course, you are a mental deficient.

They don't occur as the result of your own actions, that is for sure. And that is precisely what his exploits yesterday were a response to.

 

[Da Hammer]

HAHAHA that video is great and so are the comments to the video

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

There is something wrong about a QB getting credit for a 55yard TD pass when he threw it five yards and the RB ran it another 50 for the TD.

 

[dboyz]

yes he was on fire. BUT.....the eagles opposition for the most part was a handful of teams with poor ranked defenses.

Also, that current complaint that mcnabb doesnt have a running game is also the reason he has so many passing yards and passing TD's. The eagles throw so much that he has way more attempts than most qb's and that is going to pad his stats alone, plus throw in the easy schedule the team started off against.

He's the same player he has always been. he's a gifted athlete and decent qb. He ususaly gets good protection but even when he doesnt he can scramble to buy time and find the open guy. But he is also inconsistent with his throws, accuracy is a problem at times, and sometimes he just makes bad decisions like his head isnt completely in the game, especially clock management.

The eagles do ask him to do quite a lot as far as carrying the team, have to give him credit there. I dont know if they put him in the best position to win games every week but that is how reid game plans.

One of those defenses was our defense, which I think we could agree unbiasedly is a pretty good defense, and McNabb lit us up pretty good. Now several were big plays that we should've covered better, but that's just woulda coulda shoulda.

Generally I agree that their schedule has been on the easy side and you always want to judge players over a fair time period like the whole season, but it's hard to do better than he had been doing before yesterday's game.

I would say he's a gifted athlete and a very good qb (not great).

Put it this way, are there five QB's you would take in front of him? I wouldn't put him in Brady's class or Mannings, but he's in the next batch and I would say one of the top 5-6 QB's.

 

[theogt]

There is something wrong about a QB getting credit for a 55yard TD pass when he threw it five yards and the RB ran it another 50 for the TD.

To be fair to QBs, there's something wrong about a QB getting an incompletion when the receiver drops the ball.

 

[lspain1]

Put it this way, are there five QB's you would take in front of him? I wouldn't put him in Brady's class or Mannings, but he's in the next batch and I would say one of the top 5-6 QB's.

What you say is true. It really surprises me how many folks on this board refuse to admit it.

 

[5Stars]

I wonder how many commenting in this thread actually watched the game on Sunday. I did. I despise the Eagles...but if you watched the game, you would not question McNabb's heart and desire.

Reggie Brown and L.J. Smith both made critical mistakes that cost the Eagles points. L.J. Smith at the end of the 1st half and Reggie Brown in the fouth quarter. McNabb made mistakes that put his team behind. If his receivers hadn't been poo-poo at critical moments, McNabb's mistakes wouldn't have mattered because the game would not have been close. McNabb literally carried his team with his legs for a key score and Westbrook accomplished the rest late in that game.

You act like Reid could plug in "any guy" and get that job done with the Eagle's talent. That is simply untrue.

I watched the whole game, and I can say that McPuke made some plays, however, he also made his share of mistakes to lose that game.

He underthrows a receiver with seconds to go, instead of going to the endzone. He throws Ints...he wasted a timeout while puking his guts out...and these are just some of the obvious things he does.

He absoutely DOES NOT DESERVE all this media darling stuff like, "he's probably the best player in the NFL...he's on pace for the league MVP...he's clearly a winner...blah, blah, blah..."!

He's an OK QB, but, he is not the god that everyone thinks he is...and the reason that you MUST NOT CRITIZE HIM is because of political correctness...

If anyone wants to blame the heat on his puking his guts out, well, the other QB and players were also in the heat...I did not hear or see any of them chokeing...

If anyone wants to claim that he has no weapons except for westbrook, well, that's the fault of the "Gold Standard"...so, no pity from me...

McPuke wants to come out and say "this is my team"...well, he's got it, so he has to live with it! He had the power to keep a top rate receiver (yes a head case) yet he could not share the spotlight...is that a leader? NO!

McPuke and the eagles are irrelevant at this time, and they deserve everything that happens...

This is a new era in football...no longer are the eagles able to beat up the whole NFCE to get into the playoffs...he has to actually WORK now...and it makes him puke to know that he is not what he thinks he is, or what the media tries to make him out to be!

What a Rush!