Meriweather @ FS

[McCordsville Cowboy]

Merriweather will be a stud for whatever team he goes too.

 

[adamknite]

Not much you, me, or anyone else could say about this year's draft can be considered 'fact'. Glad you finally see that.

In your opinion, the team doesn't need a FS, we get it.

And you're more than welcome to your opinion.

Just like every other fan who posts here is entitled to theirs.

You know everybody at one times says things like "This is not going to happen", "There is no chance that so and so can win" this happens all the time heck some people make a fortune off of saying things like this. I remember Colin Cowherd said on his radio show "The steelers have no chance of winning the super bowl" the year the Steelers won the superbowl. Are statements like this "fact"? NO! Of course they're not facts at the moment, the event hasn't happened yet.

You are the one who seems to not understand the difference between fact and peoples statements.Everybody knows that when somebody makes a statment it isn't "fact", but a person has a right to make a statment and it pretty much assumed that when somebody says "This will not happen" it is an opinion. 2+2=4 is a fact, it will never change 2+2 will always equal 4 therefore it is a fact. On September 11 two planes crashed into the twin towers, that will always be fact. You don't seem to understand the difference between the two not me. You simply saw an opportunity to call me a jackarse and took it, with your rantings about me not knowing "the facts" when I know a fact about this team is we just signed a valued FA FS in Ken Hamlin and still have last years young starter still on the team.

Like I exampled if I said Toby Korrodi will not be the number one pick in the NFL draft, it isn't fact but it's pretty darn close and to me drafting a FS in the first round, there's about 99% chance against. If I'm wrong so be it, who's never been wrong in their life? If I would have said "There's no way we are going to draft a Strong Safety in the first round" would you have called me a jackarse? Probably not because you'd probably be more inclined to agree with me on that comment.

 

[smarta5150]

We havent had a thread like this in awhile...

 

[Stash]

Dallas is not going to draft a FS in the first round, get over it. It's not a need, and nobody could put enough spin on it to say it is. It was probably unlikely we were going to draft one in the first before we signed Hamlin and now that we have signed Hamlin the chances have fallen to slim or none. BPA is nice and all in theory but isn't really practical because there are needs on this team and if there are really good players left on the board and they happen to be positions we need then we're taking them, even if merri and Landry are still on the board, deal with it.

Read your original post and you tell me if you didn't deserve any and all abuse you've received.

You did sound like a :mule:

You can have your hopes, preferences and opinions - as many as you'd like.

But so can anybody else.

And nobody needs to 'get over it' because their opinions don't match up with yours.

 

[adamknite]

Read your original post and you tell me if you didn't deserve any and all abuse you've received.

You did sound like a :mule:

You can have your hopes, preferences and opinions - as many as you'd like.

But so can anybody else.

And nobody needs to 'get over it' because their opinions don't match up with yours.

Trust me, I could of said a lot worse. Get over it was to mean that there are new threads everyday about drafting a free safety and it's getting old. I like reading and commenting on people's ideas and opinions even if they don't match my own. If I don't agree I politely tell them I don't agree and give my response which is the whole idea behind message boards. I'm tired of looking at mock drafts that have us taking a safety in the first and people wanting us to take a safety in the first as if we haven't already invested into the position finally. The whole point of signing Hamlin was so we could mark off another position from our "needs" list, it wasn't so we could draft one in the first and sit them on the bench. My first response if you payed enough attention was one of my typical responses where I said I don't believe we'll be drafting a free safety and I gave reasons why mainly what I've just said. MW responded to me and I responded back then I had somebody tell me I had no idea what I was talking about so I responded with my "get over it we're not drafting a FS in the first round" post. Maybe you should do some research before you bash me.

 

[adamknite]

1. Roy Williams
2. Ken Hamlin
3. Pat Watkins
4. Keith Davis
5. Abram Elam

We have 5 players as of today playing two positions, why draft one in the first round?

I'm getting tired of this "Draft a FS in the first round talk" Free Safety is not an issue. Why would we spend a pick on a Free Safety when we have other needs on this team that can be helped with a first round pick this year. If we're going to spend another pick on our defensive backfield why would it be for a safety when there is a much better chance that if we draft CB the Rookie could actually get some playing time. People just have this blind obsession with Free Safeties, it's like they can't live without the boys having the most expensive DB core in the league.

We need help at D. tackle, we could use youth at WR, pass rusher, maybe MLB, maybe OLB, right now with the addition of Hamlin and already having Watkins we don't need a free safety.

We aren't drafting a FS in the 1st round. I'm thinking we won't draft a safety period.

A lot of people on this board don't seem to think that way I guess.

Actually guys and gals, NONE of us know what Dallas will do come draft day so definitive statements like Michael's don't hold much weight. At this point we are all opining. Hell, last year I would have never guessed in one million years we would draft Fasano despite having an All-Pro TE. (They didn't begin the two TE base offense talk with the media until everyone was questioning the selection).

All I can say is we will see. Thankfully Dallas has no glaring need so that is a luxury.

This was the line of talking you interupted with your calling me a Jackarse....

 

[Stash]

Trust me, I could of said a lot worse. Get over it was to mean that there are new threads everyday about drafting a free safety and it's getting old. I like reading and commenting on people's ideas and opinions even if they don't match my own. If I don't agree I politely tell them I don't agree and give my response which is the whole idea behind message boards. I'm tired of looking at mock drafts that have us taking a safety in the first and people wanting us to take a safety in the first as if we haven't already invested into the position finally. The whole point of signing Hamlin was so we could mark off another position from our "needs" list, it wasn't so we could draft one in the first and sit them on the bench. My first response if you payed enough attention was one of my typical responses where I said I don't believe we'll be drafting a free safety and I gave reasons why mainly what I've just said. MW responded to me and I responded back then I had somebody tell me I had no idea what I was talking about so I responded with my "get over it we're not drafting a FS in the first round" post. Maybe you should do some research before you bash me.

It's pretty arrogant to feel that something should or shouldn't be discussed because you're 'tired of it'. Until you run or I things around here, it really doesn't matter does it?

I can certainly debate you about whether I feel the team still needs a free safety and I can do it without insulting you or your opinion.

Many fans feel as I do - that Hamlin is a possible fix for a position that has been the Cowboys' achilles heel for several years. Or he could be the next Marcus Coleman for all we know.

I do know that he signed just a 1 year deal and will be looking for his big payday next year.

As for Pat Watkins, we can all hope for the best but he didn't exactly prove capable of being the answer last year.

Those are the two main reasons why many of us can see the Cowboys drafting a quality free safety if one is available at #22.

I'm not saying 'I'm right' or 'you're wrong' here, just stating that opinions vary - and that's OK.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

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[dmoore]

Signing Hamlin to a one year deal in no way prevents us from taking a FS if we feel they're the best player available. I don't think we take one in the first, but if Merriweather's there in the 2nd, I'd be tempted to take him. Until we see what exactly we have at FS (Hamlin still needs to show he can be the player he was before the injury), bringing in more options isn't a bad thing at all. We're still looking for that guy that compliments Roy perfectly, and that guy may or may not be on the roster currently. FS has just been such a glarring problem in that past that it's hard to trust what we have until we see how it all meshes together once the season starts.

 

[adamknite]

It's pretty arrogant to feel that something should or shouldn't be discussed because you're 'tired of it'. Until you run or I things around here, it really doesn't matter does it?

I can certainly debate you about whether I feel the team still needs a free safety and I can do it without insulting you or your opinion.

Many fans feel as I do - that Hamlin is a possible fix for a position that has been the Cowboys' achilles heel for several years. Or he could be the next Marcus Coleman for all we know.

I do know that he signed just a 1 year deal and will be looking for his big payday next year.

As for Pat Watkins, we can all hope for the best but he didn't exactly prove capable of being the answer last year.

Those are the two main reasons why many of us can see the Cowboys drafting a quality free safety if one is available at #22.

I'm not saying 'I'm right' or 'you're wrong' here, just stating that opinions vary - and that's OK.

I understand the thinking but it's no practical, not when there are other needs on this team, that was the whole reason Hamlin was brought in, to be a stop gap. So we could use the first round pick on another position. There weren't any good free agents at WR, PassRusher, Defensive Tackle or atleast not any worth investing big money into. That's how the Cowboys front office felt. They did see needs at Offensive Guard/possibly tackle (if columbo wasn't resigned) and free safety. So they went out and grabbed Leonard Davis to fill the void and managed to get Columbo back on board there's two positions filled. Next was FS, lets not get into the debate of if we should draft a FS if it was only Watkins and Davis there, but apparently the Cowboys staff/Wade Phillips whoever decided that we needed to do something with the posistion, and luckily there was a pretty good option still on the market. So they worked out a one year stop gap deal with Hamlin and brought him in, so they could open up more possibillities with their first round pick. Our two biggest needs were taken care of by FA signings there no longer exists the need for another FS.

Note: if you think I'm arrogant, then you've obviosly not seen some posters on this board who dismass a thread as soon as it's started without giving any reason behind it, they just simply spam the beating a dean horse smiley. No matter how many times a subject has been posted here I'm polite enough to give my reasons to why I disagree/agree before making a statement about it being discussed enough.

 

[adamknite]

Signing Hamlin to a one year deal in no way prevents us from taking a FS if we feel they're the best player available. I don't think we take one in the first, but if Merriweather's there in the 2nd, I'd be tempted to take him. Until we see what exactly we have at FS (Hamlin still needs to show he can be the player he was before the injury), bringing in more options isn't a bad thing at all. We're still looking for that guy that compliments Roy perfectly, and that guy may or may not be on the roster currently. FS has just been such a glarring problem in that past that it's hard to trust what we have until we see how it all meshes together once the season starts.

I'm not against taking a FS somewhere in the draft. Not even against taking a FS on the first day. I just don't want (and don't feel like we will) to take a FS in the first round. There is a point where it's overkill trying to fill one position when there are other positions of need on the team.

If we take a FS in the first or second round this year that would mean we've thrown three different darts trying to fill one position in two years (1st/2nd round pick, 6th round pick, 2nd round pick FA pickup) at trying to fill one position, spending that much effort on a position that isn't QB is pointless in my mind.

 

[smarta5150]

I'm not against taking a FS somewhere in the draft. Not even against taking a FS on the first day. I just don't want (and don't feel like we will) to take a FS in the first round. There is a point where it's overkill trying to fill one position when there are other positions of need on the team.

 

[adamknite]

lolZ, I believe that is the first time anybody has ever done that for one of my posts.

 

[superpunk]

Right after we address our pressing need at FS, we really need a new starting tailback. Julius needs to go now, whether you like it or not. I'd also keep Carpenter outside and start Bradie James.

 

[smarta5150]

lolZ, I believe that is the first time anybody has ever done that for one of my posts.

Congrats!

 

[smarta5150]

Right after we address our pressing need at FS, we really need a new starting tailback. Julius needs to go now, whether you like it or not. I'd also keep Carpenter outside and start Bradie James.

God I hate you.

 

[superpunk]

God I hate you.

It's because I'm the new pot. Give me some time.

 

[smarta5150]

It's because I'm the new pot. Give me some time.

Speaking of pot, did you raise your hand in response to Theo's question?

 

[adamknite]

God I hate you.

the very thought of him makes me vomit....

naw SP you have a way of lightening the mood when things start to get too serious.

 

[superpunk]

Speaking of pot, did you raise your hand in response to Theo's question?

Noone did.

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