Merriman suspended

[Derinyar]

Why, is that where the tell-tale needle marks would show?

At least according to Jose Canseco who personally spent stall time with about half of the MLB. :laugh2:

 

[superpunk]

Yes, this is my point. This guy has been tested probably not long ago and must have passed.

I just wonder if it is a short or long term problem for him.

Not necessarily. If it's completely random, and only 6 to 8 playrers each week, this could have been his first test ever. Which results in an immediate suspension of 4 games.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

no, just if it showed his butt, I could do a sig w/ a syringe sticking out of it :laugh1:

well, you can do that with his arm or hip.

 

[Da Hammer]

Nobody is trying to indict Ware.

For the hundredth time, Bob Dole never said Ware is on roids.

Bob Dole's point that we have no idea how many people in the NFL are on roids is simply in response to the people on this board that started the whole "Argument over. Merriman is a cheater and Ware is clean and Merriman is officially better." stuff.

It's ridiculous.

Whats ridiculous is that you are defending Merriman by saying that other NFL players use steroids so it doesnt matter if he does cause other do too. It ridiculous for u to accuse other players of doing steroids just so u can defend your baby daddy

 

[Bob Sacamano]

so u can defend your baby daddy

:laugh2: now that's just hilarious

 

[ghst187]

I remember that he gained 30 pounds from his last college game to the Draft just a few months later. That was suspicious....

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Not necessarily. If it's completely random, and only 6 to 8 playrers each week, this could have been his first test ever. Which results in an immediate suspension of 4 games.

The problem with that theory is we just don't know.

I would like to know how often he has been tested, and when, if any time, was he not on roids.

 

[Hostile]

yeah man i hear ya. but talking about roid suspicions, c'mon man its the nfl everyone is suspicious about most of the players in this league

Simply not true. No one has these supsicions about Ware. For 2 years this kid has been dumped on by "Cowboys" fans when all he's done is be a great character/citizen and play his rear end off.

I played the game, I know how guys cheat, I'm aware that some beat the system. You're telling me this suspension surprises you? Then I submit you haven't been paying attention like many here have. He has a History. It is not exactly stellar.

People get sick and tired of being labeled "blind homers" for actually liking a clean player on their own team better.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

well, you can do that with his arm or hip.

it's funnier w/ the butt, plus there already is photoshop of him sticking a syringe in his arm, it's on the 4th or 5th page of this thread

 

[Derinyar]

The problem with that theory is we just don't know.

I would like to know how often he has been tested, and when, if any time, was he not on roids.

I suspect the only way to find out any of that would be if Merriman himself waived his rights and released it. It still is at its core medical information and likely bound up in patients rights laws. I would guess the CBA allows for the telling of the specific type of failure.

 

[peplaw06]

Nobody is trying to indict Ware.

For the hundredth time, Bob Dole never said Ware is on roids.

Bob Dole's point that we have no idea how many people in the NFL are on roids is simply in response to the people on this board that started the whole "Argument over. Merriman is a cheater and Ware is clean and Merriman is officially better." stuff.

It's ridiculous.

So you ask if we have proof that Ware is NOT on steroids, yet you're not trying to indict him for steroid usage?? Yeah okay...

And no one is saying definitively that Ware is a "better player." We're basking in this thread because all of you Merriman lovers have told us repeatedly that we wasted a draft pick. THAT'S what's ridiculous.

Now we've seen confirmation that our draft pick was in fact a good one, and that's what this is about. Not that Ware is better. Honestly, I still think Merriman is a good talent. I don't want him on my team, because he cheats and could be suspended at any moment and would hurt the team. I'll take Ware who has yet to hurt the team.

 

[sjordan6]

The NFL does one big test of every team, and the team knows when it's coming. They do random tests, but to end up on the random list you have to get caught during the team tests or end up on someones **** list.

So, in reality, it's not very difficult at all to get by the tests. If you aren't on the random testing list you can cycle roids and not test positive for them when you know a test is coming two months in advance.

To get caught in the team testing you have to be pretty stupid or just unlucky, so at least there's one log for the fire of the "Ware>Merriman" camp - if Ware is on roids, at least he's not as dumb as Merriman.



Does anyone here have proof that Ware isn't on steroids? Unless you go and personally conduct a random test on him, you have no idea whether he is or isn't, thus making the "WARE IS NOW OFFICIALLY BETTER THAN MERRIMAN" argument moot.

It's common sense for anyone who has ever played sports in their life. Human beings aren't supposed to be able to do what NFL players do - just because Sammy Sosa, Mark McGwire and Barry Bonds have never officially tested positive means they never used roids?

I dont believe Ware is on roids but you finally argue a good point. I know they let players know when the league will test them that why alot of guys can still smoke weed...maybe take roids...or do whatever because they have sense enough to stop or take something to get past the test and the other knuckleheads get caught.

Merriman is just stupid! And it will really hurt his rep because he probably will have the label of a cheater like mcguire and bonds.

But Bob Dole it is rather politician of you to attack the character of ware because of what merriman has done.

Some of the athletes are just phenomanal! I guess deion was on roids too!

 

[Bob Dole]

Whats ridiculous is that you are defending Merriman by saying that other NFL players use steroids so it doesnt matter if he does cause other do too. It ridiculous for u to accuse other players of doing steroids just so u can defend your baby daddy

Who's defending Merriman? Where did Bob Dole ever say it's great to do steroids and that Merriman shouldn't be suspended?

 

[superpunk]

Your whole stance has been ridiculous. It's a shame you can't see that for yourself.

The evolution of this "argument" is hilarious. First it was, Julius Peppers was suspended for steroids, would you want him on your team?

Unfortunately for Bob, that wasn't even close to being true.

So now it's well, everyone's doing it - which of course worked magic in the famous "Jackson vs. Alaska" case, wherein Jacskon was freed of charges of seal-murder, because "everyone was murdering seals."

Then it's - Prove Ware isn't on steroids.

I propose a "Talking in third person = auto-ban." Honestly, no good ever comes of it. Is there any way we can vote on this? Town meeting?

 

[Shuttemdown41]

People get sick and tired of being labeled "blind homers" for actually liking a clean player on their own team better.

Amen!!

 

[TEK2000]

Simply not true. No one has these supsicions about Ware. For 2 years this kid has been dumped on by "Cowboys" fans when all he's done is be a great character/citizen and play his rear end off.

I played the game, I know how guys cheat, I'm aware that some beat the system. You're telling me this suspension surprises you? Then I submit you haven't been paying attention like many here have. He has a History. It is not exactly stellar.

People get sick and tired of being labeled "blind homers" for actually liking a clean player on their own team better.

THANK YOU HOSTILE!

That is the best post of this entire thread!

 

[Deep_Freeze]

it's funnier w/ the butt, plus there already is photoshop of him sticking a syringe in his arm, it's on the 4th or 5th page of this thread

I this thread, it is buried. I haven't even read that part, and probably never will.

 

[Rampage]

Simply not true. No one has these supsicions about Ware. For 2 years this kid has been dumped on by "Cowboys" fans when all he's done is be a great character/citizen and play his rear end off.

I played the game, I know how guys cheat, I'm aware that some beat the system. You're telling me this suspension surprises you? Then I submit you haven't been paying attention like many here have. He has a History. It is not exactly stellar.

People get sick and tired of being labeled "blind homers" for actually liking a clean player on their own team better.

im not suprised. i didn't know all the stuff you guys knew about him, yet everyone is acting like they are suprised

 

[superpunk]

The problem with that theory is we just don't know.

I would like to know how often he has been tested, and when, if any time, was he not on roids.

It's entirely irrelevant, unless you're clinging to some "Merriman is great" fetish that can't be let go of. The fact is, he did it. He got caught. ALL his accomplishments are under exam now, whether that's just or not. That's the price you pay for cheating.

 

[TEK2000]

Who's defending Merriman? Where did Bob Dole ever say it's great to do steroids and that Merriman shouldn't be suspended?

I guess you forgot the part where you said you'd still take him on your team... and Peppers on your team after you said he got busted for steroids.