Micah Parsons on Zeke's new haircut and signing with Patriots: Zeke is going for 2k yards

[Big_D]

I'd sign up for double digit touchdowns but defiantly not 2k yards

I don't even think he gets that. maybe like 700 yards and 7 TDs in a bad offense and a tough division.

 

[lkelly]

Are we going to see first day of school pics outside Gillete Stadium?

 

[TheMightyVanHalen]

Judging from his cheeks, he might have lost weight. He's still young, and he's durable. I don't know if the Patriots have a good line or not. If they do, I could see him being the comeback player of the year. But hopefully that goes to Dak.


He doesn't go for 2,000 yards, but maybe 1,200 is realistic, and even 1,500 is possible. Especially if he lost weight. He's on a 1 year prove it contract, so he might be motivated enough to get back in his prime Zeke shape. His face doesn't look fat like it does here.

 

[big dog cowboy]

 

[thunderpimp91]

I'd put a lot of money on the under haha

Unless injury is a factor there is zero chance he out rushes Rhmondre Stephenson this year. Have to believe that Zeke is the clear #2 back who probably specializes as a 3rd down / short yardage back.

 

[Creeper]

Zeke's contract is basically $3 million if he plays every game.

He got a $600k signing bonus, $1.55MM salary if he does not get hurt before the season starts, $850k roster bonus or $50k per game.

He can earn another $3 million in incentives for yards from scrimmage and playing time. It is graduated but basically if he gets 975 scrimmage yards he gets $300k. If he gets 1475 yards from scrimmage he gets $1.5 million. There are intermediate targets between those points worth $300k each.

He can earn another $1.5 MM if he plays 70% of offensive snaps. ($300k for 50%, and another $300k for every 5 percentage points over fifty up to 70%.)

The Patriots really protected themselves with this contract. I am sure Dallas could have come up with a similar contract to keep him, maybe even for more money. Clearly, they want to move on.

Based on his history, Elliott should get some of the yards from scrimmage incentive money. Last year in 15 games he had 968 yards from scrimmage. The prior year he had 1289 (worth $900k on his new deal), and in 2020 he had 1317 in 15 games (again worth $900k)

The question is how much will the Raiders play him. I suspect he will not get more than 55% of their offensive snaps and if he gets hurt and misses a couple of game he won't get to 50%.

 

[DandyDon52]

still has the nose rings lol.
2000 yds?? not likely

although if he has changed his mindset and gets enough carries, and NE can run block, he might get around 1500.
Could be BB wants to run more to help mac and the offense.
plus get him out of the dallas culture and into BB culture, and no telling how he will do.

 

[Cowboys5217]

I didn't think the Patriots were a charity organization. If they want to just give millions out for a progress stopper I would be glad to sign up.

Best advice to Zeke - save that money.

 

[Cowboys5217]

still has the nose rings lol.
2000 yds?? not likely

although if he has changed his mindset and gets enough carries, and NE can run block, he might get around 1500.
Could be BB wants to run more to help mac and the offense.
plus get him out of the dallas culture and into BB culture, and no telling how he will do.

He ain't going to break 1000 yards. By mid season or later he won't even be getting much playing time.

This was a charity signing.

 

[Flamma]

It's not trash, it was a complete overvalue from the front office and his cap hit, and how that effected everything from Pollards usage and other backs, to Jerry's ridiculous love affair with his superstar RB. It killed this team more than it helped. Not Zeke's fault but the feed me routine was definitely an issue. There's a pretty big area between "great RB" and "Trash".. Zeke falls somewhere in between. If fans don't talk about how amazing he was he must be trash. Good.. yes. Way overrated by this owner.. hell yes.

I think people expected more better years. But for all of the talk about it being a bad contract, consider this. Zeke was with the team for how long, 7 years? He was a bad cap hit for 1 year. And now an 11M dead cap. That's really not a bad contract. It's just bad for Jerry's wallet.

 

[DandyDon52]

He ain't going to break 1000 yards. By mid season or later he won't even be getting much playing time.

This was a charity signing.

Ok get back with me after 8-9 games and if your right I will give you kudo's

 

[Big_D]

I think people expected more better years. But for all of the talk about it being a bad contract, consider this. Zeke was with the team for how long, 7 years? He was a bad cap hit for 1 year. And now an 11M dead cap. That's really not a bad contract. It's just bad for Jerry's wallet.

It was a terrible deal. It put everything on one RB while a better more explosive RB pretty much rode the bench. Jerry's expectations along with the contract are what made it bad. You simply can't do it in today's NFL and it hurt the offense. He was spent at the end of every season considering the ridiculous work load predicated on that contract.

 

[plasticman]

I'm wondering if there is a precedent for a formerly productive RB on an obvious decline going to another team and reviving his previous productivity.

Oher big name RB's that moved in the middle of their carers would be guys like Eric Dickerson, John Riggins, and Marshall Faulk. Howevr, none of these guys were declining. They were thousand yard rushers their last season with the first team and multiple thousand yard rushers with their new team.

Can anyone else come up with a RB that accomplished this?

 

[gimmesix]

Well one injury to Pollard and it will be scary. I'd prefer a real vet option with Deuce+Pollard. Makes more sense than Dowdle or Davis.

It could work out, but we're operating on a lot of ifs, so I agree. It's a poor plan to rely on players who have not proven anything in this league. Generally, you want those players to prove that they deserve more rather than just giving it to them.

The Joneses, of course, are all hey, we signed a veteran so we're good. But when I buy a clock from Goodwill, I don't expect it to keep time very well. I hope it works out, but there's a high likelihood, it will not.

 

[Sheepherder]

Well one injury to Pollard and it will be scary. I'd prefer a real vet option with Deuce+Pollard. Makes more sense than Dowdle or Davis.

still has the nose rings lol.
2000 yds?? not likely

although if he has changed his mindset and gets enough carries, and NE can run block, he might get around 1500.
Could be BB wants to run more to help mac and the offense.
plus get him out of the dallas culture and into BB culture, and no telling how he will do.

Well if he (Zek)does get 1500 yards, one would have to assume the culture is the issue in Dallas. I believe it is.

 

[gimmesix]

Calling him trash is ridiculous. And definitely in those first 3 years he was considered great. But I wouldn't put his full 7 year career in that category. Limited use and preservation would've helped him tremendously. Unfortunately that's not how Jerry treated that situation.

I would not argue against this (although I'd say his second year wasn't great at 4.1 per carry partly because of the suspension and his fourth year was with 1,357 rushing and 4.5 per carry), and don't think anyone rational would. We've got a lot of irrational on this board, though.

 

[ShortRound]

He couldn't get a haircut for us?

 

[Flamma]

It was a terrible deal. It put everything on one RB while a better more explosive RB pretty much rode the bench. Jerry's expectations along with the contract are what made it bad. You simply can't do it in today's NFL and it hurt the offense. He was spent at the end of every season considering the ridiculous work load predicated on that contract.

I wasn't talking about that. I'm not talking about how he was used, just the contract. People said it was a terrible contract. It wasn't. If you want to talk about how he was used I'm not going to argue with you. You're probably right. That wasn't my point. My point was solely cap related.

 

[Rayman70]

 

[calicowboy54]

he looks like someone that was just told he's got to get a job and work now, instead of playing video games in his moms basement.