Manziel has his problems . There is no doubt about it, but he is not a bad guy like Big Ben and some of the other thugs in the league. The kid likes to drink and he loves women. What normal 23 year old doesn't . Manziel has not raped anyone, killed anybody or committed some of the other crimes that other pro players have done. If you read most of these posts on this board, you would think that he is the devil himself. Much like Dez, Manziel's reputation has been ruined without him committing the first crime. I am not going to argue the point that Manziel is a likable guy. His personality rubs many fans wrong, just like Dez. The pure hate for both of these guys is amazing . It makes it worse when grown fans can't tell the difference between unlikable players and players that are really bad guys.