Michael Irvin: I will work with Johnny Manziel; Cowboys should help save him

[Denim Chicken]

I don't like it that guys like this become punch lines and jokes publicly. .

If you don't want to become a joke, don't act like one. This guy is suffering from the same "affluenza" affliction as that dui teen.

 

[jnday]

You write that like it is a bad thing.

Yeah, I have seen much worse .

 

[coogrfan]

Manziel has his problems . There is no doubt about it, but he is not a bad guy like Big Ben and some of the other thugs in the league. The kid likes to drink and he loves women. What normal 23 year old doesn't . Manziel has not raped anyone, killed anybody or committed some of the other crimes that other pro players have done. If you read most of these posts on this board, you would think that he is the devil himself. Much like Dez, Manziel's reputation has been ruined without him committing the first crime. I am not going to argue the point that Manziel is a likable guy. His personality rubs many fans wrong, just like Dez. The pure hate for both of these guys is amazing . It makes it worse when grown fans can't tell the difference between unlikable players and players that are really bad guys.

Jesus, dude. Open your eyes.

The problem isn't that JFF wants to party; it's that he wants to party more than he wants to play football.

 

[jnday]

the heck with jlohnny manziel. he is a screw up...he had his opportunitiy 5 times over...the first time you mess up...ok, it was a mistake...learned my lesson...second time....ok, sorry....but 5, 6, 7 times.....the guy is trouble....he should go seek professional help...I am sure he can afford it....the cowboys are a football team...not a community center....or AA or DHS...

According to the past treatments of former players, Jerry has shown that he has run a clinical rehab center if he think they have talent. I don't agree with it, but he sure does it.

 

[Rockport]

Pretty sure Jones will bring him in.

 

[mrmojo]

Michael may as well help Joseph Randle too.....then Jerry's organization may qualify as non-profit, no taxes....maybe that's what Jerry is striving for.

 

[Idgit]

If you don't want to become a joke, don't act like one. This guy is suffering from the same "affluenza" affliction as that dui teen.

I guess I keep thinking back to how I'd likely behave at his age with his options and his temptations. Not to mention the pressure that goes on these 22 year old college grads who become the figureheads for billion-dollar corporations, and then judged not only for their performance on the field at the hardest position in professional sports, but also on how they get along with their 22 year old friends and girlfriends.

 

[KJJ]

The problem with this is....I don't see Griffin or Manziel as a "veteran". Those 2 guys are "brands". I don't think they would bring much in terms of mentoring a young QB. They are still learning just like a rookie would. If you use the #4 overall pick on a QB...Cassell could still be brought back.

It doesn't matter how you see them they're veteran QBs who have some NFL starting experience and have won a few games. They'll both will be available and they may end up being the best backup QBs that are made available. The Cowboys best chance to find a solid backup QB is in the draft because if they have to depend on a veteran who's on the street they'll likely end up with another Weeden or Cassel.

They're going to hope they can land a QB in the draft that can not only be a solid backup but who can also be groomed into Romo's replacement down the road. As for Cassel he could still be brought back if the Cowboys don't see a better option. They may feel with OTA's and a training camp with the team he might be better but I believe they saw enough of him this season and will be looking for a better veteran option.

 

[boyzjunkie]

I'm not interested in guys like Manziel who seem more interested in partying and acting like a fool.

I agree. right now I wants guys who are passionate about football and willing to do what ever they have to do to get this franchise back to it's winning ways and I don't see that in Manziel. I'm not interested in guys like Manziel who seem more interested in partying and acting like a fool. He has issues and I don't think the Cowboys need to add more issues to this team.

I am curious. How did you determine that JF is only 'acting' like a fool?

 

[Doomsday101]

I'm not interested in guys like Manziel who seem more interested in partying and acting like a fool.


I am curious. How did you determine that JF is only 'acting' like a fool?

True, I don't think it is an act. His actions are that of a fool. Better? lol

 

[boyzjunkie]

LOL

 

[CCBoy]

Most NFL teams would not even consider signing Johnny Manziel given the way the former Texas A&M star’s NFL career has gone thus far, but the Dallas Cowboys are the franchise that seems to keep coming up in conversation.

Michael Irvin wants his former team to make it happen.

During a chat with Rich Eisen on NFL Network earlier this week, Irvin said he wants the Cowboys to sign Manziel if and when he is released by the Cleveland Browns.

“I love the game of football and the game of football saves lives,” Irvin said, according to The Dallas Morning News. “If you can get a young guy, Johnny Manziel won a Heisman Trophy at 18-19 years old. He is still growing up. I don’t know why we think if a guy can throw a football it makes him the most mature person in the world. There will come a time when he will cross over that threshold and become a great football player and I am willing to work with him on that and I hope the Cowboys do get him.”...


http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/michael-irvin-wants-cowboys-to-rescue-johnny-manziel-020416

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

According to the past treatments of former players, Jerry has shown that he has run a clinical rehab center if he think they have talent. I don't agree with it, but he sure does it.

yes, that's quite concerning. Jerry lives in jerry world (dream world) and jerry sees dollar signs and that always, always always takes his football judgement away. as a result he makes great financial decisions and poor football decisions.

 

[CCBoy]

yes, that's quite concerning. Jerry lives in jerry world (dream world) and jerry sees dollar signs and that always, always always takes his football judgement away. as a result he makes great financial decisions and poor football decisions.

There comes a point where one just gets sick of all the nanny too too crap that insults Jerry Jones. This is to the level of bully insults at a Junior High/High School preppie club.

Jerry actually attempts to fix players, and that is respect of the sport, NOT STUPIDITY!!

Jerry came out of the oil fields of Texas, as a wild catter. There, a blow-over could kill a whole crew...and the whole state paid attention...THEN.

Sorry, this man actually cares for his players, no matter how many blow hart insults go onto a Cowboy board...

This is the real status:

Irvin is a Hall of Famer and one of the best players in Cowboys history, but we have already laid out several reasons why it is unlikely that the Cowboys sign Manziel. He simply doesn’t seem worth the risk, especially in a place where he can find even more trouble to get into.

 

[Sydla]

I guess I keep thinking back to how I'd likely behave at his age with his options and his temptations. Not to mention the pressure that goes on these 22 year old college grads who become the figureheads for billion-dollar corporations, and then judged not only for their performance on the field at the hardest position in professional sports, but also on how they get along with their 22 year old friends and girlfriends.

Cry me a river. He's 22. He's not 7. If he doesn't know how to act at age 22, especially when he's been in trouble and had issues dating back to his time in college, then I really struggle to feel sorry for him. Somehow, someway guys like Tom Brady and Peyton and Eli Manning and Cam Newton and other QBs somehow were able to act like a mature adult at age 22 facing similar pressures as Manziel.

He's a turd, plain and simple.

 

[Denim Chicken]

I guess I keep thinking back to how I'd likely behave at his age with his options and his temptations. Not to mention the pressure that goes on these 22 year old college grads who become the figureheads for billion-dollar corporations, and then judged not only for their performance on the field at the hardest position in professional sports, but also on how they get along with their 22 year old friends and girlfriends.

It goes with the territory. Most college grads are not being put in a position to make hundreds of thousands to millions right out of college. These kids should be grateful for the opportunity, put their heads down and work. I can't feel sorry for them if they decide to goof around and blow it--especially a trust fund baby like JF.

 

[Idgit]

It goes with the territory. Most college grads are not being put in a position to make hundreds of thousands to millions right out of college. These kids should be grateful for the opportunity, put their heads down and work. I can't feel sorry for them if they decide to goof around and blow it--especially a trust fund baby like JF.

I'd argue that these kids aren't 'getting put' in these positions. They're working their butts off and incredibly talented to begin with in order to earn those hugely coveted opportunities. They should be grateful, sure, but there's no getting around that it's the kind of pressure that would break a lot of mature adults.

Not sure how much being a trust fund baby matters. We've seen a lot of inner city kids come up and crack in similar circumstances. It takes a unique person to be put in the spotlight, under that sort of pressure, and to blossom. Which is why there are really only 20-40 guys on the planet who are capable of doing it at all.

 

[Idgit]

Cry me a river. He's 22. He's not 7. If he doesn't know how to act at age 22, especially when he's been in trouble and had issues dating back to his time in college, then I really struggle to feel sorry for him. Somehow, someway guys like Tom Brady and Peyton and Eli Manning and Cam Newton and other QBs somehow were able to act like a mature adult at age 22 facing similar pressures as Manziel.

He's a turd, plain and simple.

I really don't think you're keeping it in a realistic context. Brady, Manning, Manning, Newton. These guys are the exceptions, and not the rule. And even if they weren't, considering a 22 year old a 'turd' because he can't handle the spotlight or because he has a dependency issue is exactly what I'm talking about.

 

[ChooChoo73]

Why can't Michael just talk to Johnny himself rather than broadcast it?

Perfectly stated.

 

[Alexander]

A year up in Canada beckons. Maybe two. Two clean years. Huge production. Maybe then he has a career.

If.