Mickey Spagnola: "(Roy Williams) should be ashamed of himself" - 5/13/08

[TEK2000]

This is partially true in my opinion because he's the same player he was now as then, except for the big hits. It's more like he was overrated then, because of the big hits, and underrated now because everyone thinks he sucks.

He was also known for making a lot of game changing, impact plays throughout the course of the season.

 

[Cowboyz88]

When you guys send the myth list to Brian Stewart, can you please be sure to CC Mickey?

Thanks

 

[Seven]

Sigh.................

 

[CATCH17]

He was also known for making a lot of game changing, impact plays throughout the course of the season.

And Roys big hits would often time set the tempo for both sides of the ball.

It was like throwing fuel on a fire.

 

[Seven]

And Roys big hits would often time set the tempo for both sides of the ball.

It was like throwing fuel on a fire.

Yeah, unitl the big hit was on one of his teammates. We've seen this.

 

[Clove]

All Roy has to do is start murdering WRs and RBs again, and we will forgive his other sins.

 

[CATCH17]

Mickey got me fired up about Dave Campo at the end of that interview. :laugh2:

 

[Awakened]

Is it possible that RW was probably always overrated. He was always known for blowing players up and that's it, and now that he's not doing that anymore, he's average to below average?

I don't think so. Did you see Roy play in college? I don't know if I ever saw a defensive player in college dominate a game the way he could. Amazing. His rookie season looked like he would reach that level as a pro.

 

[CATCH17]

I don't think so. Did you see Roy play in college? I don't know if I ever saw a defensive player in college dominate a game the way he could. Amazing. His rookie season looked like he would reach that level as a pro.

Hell he finisehd 2nd for Roy of the Year (got screwed out of it)

He also finished 2nd for Defensive Player Of The Year (just gave it to Ray Lewis)

Probably the best College safety ever to play as well.

He has the potential to be an all time great and im so upset he isnt even sniffing his full potential.

 

[Clove]

I don't think so. Did you see Roy play in college? I don't know if I ever saw a defensive player in college dominate a game the way he could. Amazing. His rookie season looked like he would reach that level as a pro.

What exactly did he do other than blow up players? Honest question.

 

[Alexander]

What exactly did he do other than blow up players? Honest question.

He showed anticipation in man coverage at times. That's something he most certainly hasn't shown in recent years. He also was more effective blitzing at Oklahoma from what I remember. He also seemed more emotional and fiery at Oklahoma as well.

 

[theogt]

He showed anticipation in man coverage at times. That's something he most certainly hasn't shown in recent years. He also was more effective blitzing at Oklahoma from what I remember. He also seemed more emotional and fiery at Oklahoma as well.

He may have blitzed well at Oklahoma, but he's always sucked at it here.

 

[AbeBeta]

He may have blitzed well at Oklahoma, but he's always sucked at it here.

Actually, he had one good game back against STL.

 

[Alexander]

He may have blitzed well at Oklahoma, but he's always sucked at it here.

That also is very true. But he knocked out Kurt Warner, so I am sure that sticks in the memory.

 

[Coakleys Dad]

Its amazing the number of Roy threads nowadays.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

What exactly did he do other than blow up players? Honest question.

He did everything. He did hit people hard just because he was so much bigger than everyone and had that rare explosion at impact, but more than that I remember that he was -- ironically -- one of the surest tacklers I'd ever seen.

But he also made timely interceptions, too.

You know how Dat used to have amazing instincts, almost like he knew what play was coming in advance? Roy was like that, only he had dominant physical talent to go with it. That INT to beat the Eagles a couple of years ago was the Roy I remember from college. Or the INT and score at the goalline vs. the Skins his rookie year. He just always seemed to be in the right place at the right time, making big plays.

He was truly one of the best college football players I've ever seen. If only we could get a percentage of that player back. Who knows, maybe we can.

 

[theogt]

As for the INTs last year...

Roy taken out of deep passes in passing situations = reduced interceptions.

I'd wager that damn near all of his interceptions over his career have been over 20 yards deep (not going to take the time to look it up). Now, his chances at defending throws that deep are substantially reduced by being placed as a linebacker in the dime packages.

It just makes sense that if you take him out of deep coverage, he's not going to get the interceptions.

If you take Romo out of the starting QB spot on pass plays, he won't throw TDs either.

 

[Alexander]

Its amazing the number of Roy threads nowadays.

Thank Greg Ellis.

 

[Alexander]

As for the INTs last year...

Roy taken out of deep passes in passing situations = reduced interceptions.

I'd wager that damn near all of his interceptions over his career have been over 20 yards deep (not going to take the time to look it up). Now, his chances at defending throws that deep are substantially reduced by being placed as a linebacker in the dime packages.

It just makes sense that if you take him out of deep coverage, he's not going to get the interceptions.

If you take Romo out of the starting QB spot on pass plays, he won't throw TDs either.

In regards to his play last season, the lack of interceptions shouldn't be a concern. It's not a fair evaluation for any safety. It goes against the job description, which is to perform as a cleaner. It should only matter if his prior success in that regard is used as a benchmark.

The issue last year is that he didn't even support the run all that well and the signature hits that have won over his fans for years weren't there either. I recall one, against Green Bay. If you know how he plays, he's not going to be Ed Reed. He doesn't have range when asked to cover a large chunk of the field and its completely ignorant to expect him to do so.

You take the good with the bad. Sometimes Good Roy gets interceptions in deep coverage. Bad Roy features occasional misreads in deep coverage because he's naturally aggressive. He's said all along he plays the same way now as he's always played back to youth football, even down to the horse collar tackling technique. He is a creature of habit who is used to having the defense tailored to suit him. Unfortunately, that opportunity hasn't existed for years in Dallas.

Last year, he had a quality free safety with him and he did not step up. That's a problem.

 

[RainMan]

If all Roy did in college was blow up people he would have never been a top-10 pick.

And while he's never been a sack artist, he didn't generate a pair of two-sack seasons early in his career. Yeah, nothing spectacular, but I recall those numbers being pretty good for a safety at the time.