Mickey Spags makes a great point....

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Royal Laegotti;2995102 said:
That's fine but howabout teach him how to throw a accurate forward pass again. I thought Quincy had snuck in under center yesterday with a #9 jersey on.

I was at the game and there was a Cowboy fan with a Carter 17 on. I knew it was a bad omen..
 

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You know what would also help Romo. If the receivers KNEW what route they were supposed to be running. :rolleyes:
 

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nyc;2995946 said:
You know what would also help Romo. If the receivers KNEW what route they were supposed to be running. :rolleyes:

Some of those guys probably went undrafted for a reason. But we decide to collect them.
 

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Alexander;2995887 said:
This is only relevant if we have proof that Garrett is getting onto him and for all intents and purposes shackling his level of play.

It is up to Romo to find the happy medium between gunslinger and game manager. He ultimately makes the final decision when the ball leaves his right hand. No play call or scheme can fix what's in Romo's head.

If he's pressuring himself to be too precise or avoid the mistakes, well that is on him. Garrett is going to call the plays, the player have to execute.

I don't care for Garrett's roller coaster approach to the direction of the offense and there is no consistency. But it is crazy to simply say he's at fault because Romo hasn't found his comfort level yet.

Ultimately, he has to moderate the situation and feel comfortable. What Garrett can do, however, is establish a little bit of confidence in a player who really isn't "feeling it" right now.

Call some safe passes to get him in a rhythm and calm him down. That's what Holmgren did for Favre, it might work in this case. The problem is I don't think Garrett is mature enough as a playcaller to do that yet.

This is the point I was trying to make.

How do we know that they aren't letting Tony Romo play?

Again, probably all of the plays Jason Garrett has been criticized for were plays where he put the ball in Tony Romo's hands.

The real problem is that Tony Romo has talent but alot of times, talent cannot overcome inept coaching and this exactly what Wade Phillips and Jason Garrett have been bringing to the table.

That is why I say GET COWHER OR HOLMGREN IN HERE NOW before you ruin this guy's confidence permanently.
 

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Bach;2995951 said:
Some of those guys probably went undrafted for a reason. But we decide to collect them.

It has nothing to do with being undrafted. It has everything to do with being prepared come game time.

When the play is called, they should all know exactly what they are supposed to do without any doubt whatsoever.
 

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nyc;2995997 said:
It has nothing to do with being undrafted. It has everything to do with being prepared come game time.

When the play is called, they should all know exactly what they are supposed to do without any doubt whatsoever.

:hammer:

I don't know when it happens, maybe the first training camp, but at some point, what round you were drafted in becomes extremely trivial.

We have talent at Wide Receiver, we just don't have the proper coaching.
 

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Wait, was Quincy referenced in this thread? LOL


Okay, in no way am I a Romo lover. but, jesus. The guy is accurate when passing. He may not be the best at decision making on the field. But, The dude can throw. And is the Cowboys only and best option right now. He is in a serious slump and hopefully he gets out of it.
 

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SLATEmosphere;2995086 said:
I don't know if I can stomach another 4 pick game where he's flinging it all around the field..

Yeah, all these people clamoring for Romo to cut loose. But when he gives up 4 INTs, they'll be clamoring for him to be benched.

I think Jimmy Johnson said it best. Against good teams or in very close games, you rein Romo in. Against scrub teams (like Oakland, Tampa Bay, maybe Kansas City) you let him play gunslinger.
 

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tyke1doe;2996163 said:
Yeah, all these people clamoring for Romo to cut loose. But when he gives up 4 INTs, they'll be clamoring for him to be benched.

I think Jimmy Johnson said it best. Against good teams or in very close games, you rein Romo in. Against scrub teams (like Oakland, Tampa Bay, maybe Kansas City) you let him play gunslinger.

Jimmy seems to be a smart man.......
 

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irvin88;2995077 said:
Romo has to be better, more accurate, and darn it, and this might get everyone all up in arms, more impulsive. Cut the leash on all this protecting the ball business. Let the guy play.


LoL this is stupid Romo needs to practice harder and start putting in more work. If anything he needs to do more 1 and 3 step drops get the ball out quick and do a lot of short throws.
 

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mickey didn't even make that point, someone writing an email to the show did.
 

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punchnjudy;2995896 said:
This.

Asking Tony not to ad-lib and create is like telling a young Nolan Ryan, "Hey, maybe you should stop throwing the ball so hard."

Once you do that, why even keep him on the team? It makes no sense.

And, with no playmakers among the receivers, if Romo doesn't scramble and buy time, then there's not going to be any kind of a consistent passing game. Yeah, Aikman struggled without a true number one, but he's as relevant to Romo as Bird was to Jordan. I remember Favre putting darn good numbers with receivers who were really nothing special; a playmaking QB who buys time for WR's to get open can do that. A pocket passer can't.

Impulsive may not be the best word choice, but they need to roll this kid out, keep him moving, and let him have some fun out there. Trying to get him to play like Aikman is as mindless as asking Troy to be Steve Young.

Besides, forget Felix, this teams only chance to make the playoffs rides on Romo's ability to be a playmaker. If they decide he can't do that effectively, then they should get rid of him. It was the only thing that ever made him special.

^^^This. Let's ask ourselves an honest question. If the pocket passing Tony Romo of today would have taken over for the statue Bledsoe, when he did, "would he still be the starting QB of the Dallas Cowboys?" I think an argument could be made that, by this time atleast, someone would have been drafted or signed to legitimately challenge him for the job. When Romo started to decline is when he decided that being Tomy Romo wasn't good enough. It was time to be Tom Brady. The problem with that theory is that "playing like Brady" isn't his game (first of all) and it sure the hell isn't what got him from being an undrafted FA out of Eastern Illinois to the starting QB of the Dallas freakin' Cowboys! If the guy we've seen lately was Bledsoe's replacement and nothing was done to atleast attempt to upgrade the position, by now, the pitchfork and torch crews would be out in full force.

BraveHeartFan;2995903 said:
I love this thread. First the guy is a chump and needs to be reigned in and it's his implusive, creative, nature that gets us killed. Now there are people screaming for that guy to comeback cause they don't like the bus driver version that they've got. That same bus driver version they were all screaming for just a month or so ago is now the wrong guy to.

I love how the theories change, what Romo should be changes, in order to fit whatever is going on that particular week.

I don't think manywere calling for him to be a bus driver. What they wanted was a little bit of ball and pocket awareness (especially regarding fumbles).

nyc;2995946 said:
You know what would also help Romo. If the receivers KNEW what route they were supposed to be running. :rolleyes:

It never hurts.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2996175 said:
LoL this is stupid Romo needs to practice harder and start putting in more work. If anything he needs to do more 1 and 3 step drops get the ball out quick and do a lot of short throws.


Yeah really! Outside of the throws to Witten, every receiver seems to run 10-15yd routes every play! Where is the underneath routes by Crayton? The short crossing routes? Heck, when was the last time we threw a slant, and didn't fake to run another draw play? This is what is missing in our offense... It's not about playing vertical... It's about moving the chains. We need shorter routes by the receivers to open up the deeper stuff later, but you can't run routes that deep every play!
 

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rcaldw;2995144 said:
Listen. Isn't it time people stop making excuses for Romo when he plays poorly and just let his play speak for itself? I support Romo, but I get weary of every excuse in the book. It is a divisive receiver, it is slow receivers, it is wrong route running receivers, it is his offensive line, it is the offensive coordinator, it is the media and fan's unfair expectations, it is bad luck, it is............................................ does it ever stop? Now the problem is they have him on a leash?

How about he has played poorly at times this year? How about he has struggled sometimes this year?

There are ALWAYS other factors involved when a player struggles, but guess what, there were other factors involved when he succeeded also. I get weary of people wanting to give him ALL the credit when he played well and deflect ALL the criticism when he plays poorly.

Romo has to play better. Thats the truth.





With people like Hostile and zrinkill around that will never happen. Good luck with that though.
 

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punchnjudy;2995896 said:
This.

Asking Tony not to ad-lib and create is like telling a young Nolan Ryan, "Hey, maybe you should stop throwing the ball so hard."

Once you do that, why even keep him on the team? It makes no sense.

And, with no playmakers among the receivers, if Romo doesn't scramble and buy time, then there's not going to be any kind of a consistent passing game. Yeah, Aikman struggled without a true number one, but he's as relevant to Romo as Bird was to Jordan. I remember Favre putting darn good numbers with receivers who were really nothing special; a playmaking QB who buys time for WR's to get open can do that. A pocket passer can't.

Impulsive may not be the best word choice, but they need to roll this kid out, keep him moving, and let him have some fun out there. Trying to get him to play like Aikman is as mindless as asking Troy to be Steve Young.

Besides, forget Felix, this teams only chance to make the playoffs rides on Romo's ability to be a playmaker. If they decide he can't do that effectively, then they should get rid of him. It was the only thing that ever made him special.

Actually, when Ryan first came up in 66, he only stayed for a short time and then was sent back down. He was reassigned in 67 to the minors and called up again in 68. The reason for this was because Ryan only had one speed and one pitch. He needed to learn how to throw something other then a 100 MPH fastball.

Nobody says that Romo can't scramble or buy time. It's funny because most of his misses are not when he's on the run. Most of them are when he has no pressure but just misses the open man. Teams play Romo to contain. They try to keep him in the pocket. They don't want him breaking containment because they all know the book on Romo. He's better on the move. Like it or not, he's going to have to learn to throw from the pocket if he wants to play at a high level because that is what teams will dictate to him.
 

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BraveHeartFan;2995903 said:
I love this thread. First the guy is a chump and needs to be reigned in and it's his implusive, creative, nature that gets us killed. Now there are people screaming for that guy to comeback cause they don't like the bus driver version that they've got. That same bus driver version they were all screaming for just a month or so ago is now the wrong guy to.

I love how the theories change, what Romo should be changes, in order to fit whatever is going on that particular week.

The theories don't change. Nobody wanted a rigid bus driver.

People wanted a happy medium. Good QBs can find that middle ground. What people want is a consistent QB. Not a world beater against the swill of the league and less than mediocre against the best. That is what is so aggravating and frustrating about him. And if you look at Romo over the past year and a quarter, he's been mediocre against good defenses.

His mistakes cost us games against the Giants, Steelers, Ravens and now the Broncos. I am willing to admit Denver's defense was underestimated. But if he's nearly as elite as people think he is, he's got to beat a great defense.
 

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Alexander;2996535 said:
The theories don't change. Nobody wanted a rigid bus driver.

People wanted a happy medium. Good QBs can find that middle ground. What people want is a consistent QB. Not a world beater against the swill of the league and less than mediocre against the best. That is what is so aggravating and frustrating about him. And if you look at Romo over the past year and a quarter, he's been mediocre against good defenses.

His mistakes cost us games against the Giants, Steelers, Ravens and now the Broncos. I am willing to admit Denver's defense was underestimated. But if he's nearly as elite as people think he is, he's got to beat a great defense.

They were very beatable. Denver's offense did nothing against us for 3 quarters.
 

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irvin88;2995077 said:
Romo has to be better, more accurate, and darn it, and this might get everyone all up in arms, more impulsive. Cut the leash on all this protecting the ball business. Let the guy play.


I'm getting a metal image of Romo seeing this post, printing it out, and secretly pinning it up on the bulletin board in the locker room :laugh2:
 

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nyc;2995997 said:
It has nothing to do with being undrafted. It has everything to do with being prepared come game time.

When the play is called, they should all know exactly what they are supposed to do without any doubt whatsoever.

So quality of the player is irrelevant? Is that what you're saying?
 

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Hoofbite;2995087 said:
Or maybe Romo should balance being a turnover machine with being a playmaker.

Bingo! Oh, and maybe our receivers can learn to get open. People are saying we need T.O. Umm, HELL NO! What we need is a DeSean Jackson or Santonio Holmes. We need a fast quick receiver, and I don't care if the guy is 5'9", as long as he can catch, let's get him. I was hoping that Austin could be the deep threat, but all he has is speed and doesn't have the quickness. Our best playmaker is a RB, we need one at WR. Hopefully we can get that in the draft, or Olgetree (which everyone is clamoring for).
 
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