Mickey Spags makes a great point....

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jswalker1981;2996626 said:
Bingo! Oh, and maybe our receivers can learn to get open. People are saying we need T.O. Umm, HELL NO! What we need is a DeSean Jackson or Santonio Holmes. We need a fast quick receiver, and I don't care if the guy is 5'9", as long as he can catch, let's get him. I was hoping that Austin could be the deep threat, but all he has is speed and doesn't have the quickness. Our best playmaker is a RB, we need one at WR. Hopefully we can get that in the draft, or Olgetree (which everyone is clamoring for).

...we were whistling the same tune last year when we had Owens, Williams, Crayton, Witten and Bennett...Arizona has Boldin and Fitzgerald and it did'nt help them one bit against Indianapolis...they still got smashed...at some point Romo is going to take some of the blame for this offense misfiring...
 

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McCordsville Cowboy;2995578 said:
Apples and Oranges..

NO ONE SHOULD COMPARE THOSE YEARS to this year because he doesnt have #81. 38 Td's in 3 years is what made Romo.

then by that logic, it's *ALL* apples and oranges.

if TO were the difference maker here, then pray tell me, how many rings does he have from making so many successful qb's out there?

people compare what illustrates their point, people disagree with it interferes with their own.

romo flat out isn't the same player now as then. but it's not just mr TO who has made the difference. i think we're seeing 3 hard years take their toll on romo and fans who have not won in 13 want it now.

all romo can do is play. but with every fan-nugget-head out there telling him how he should be doing his job and a coaching staff that can't seem to help with the mental aspect of the game, he won't be able to play *very well*.

we'll see if he gets his head on straight but please, TO wasn't the sole reason for success.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;2996360 said:
Actually, when Ryan first came up in 66, he only stayed for a short time and then was sent back down. He was reassigned in 67 to the minors and called up again in 68. The reason for this was because Ryan only had one speed and one pitch. He needed to learn how to throw something other then a 100 MPH fastball.

Nobody says that Romo can't scramble or buy time. It's funny because most of his misses are not when he's on the run. Most of them are when he has no pressure but just misses the open man. Teams play Romo to contain. They try to keep him in the pocket. They don't want him breaking containment because they all know the book on Romo. He's better on the move. Like it or not, he's going to have to learn to throw from the pocket if he wants to play at a high level because that is what teams will dictate to him.

That's what I've been saying, except that even if they aren't asking Romo to not scramble, they also aren't designing plays that get him out of the pocket. He'll always have to complete some passes in the pocket, and he always has, but they need to roll him out more to get him in rhythm.

I've also seen several plays this season and even late last season where Romo had the opportunity to scramble--plays where he would have broken the pocket in the past--but he stayed in the pocket, usually to no avail. I don't know if he's been coached to do that, or if he just has it in his head that he needs to become a better pocket passer, so he's determined to do it. Either way, it's not working.
 

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Gemini Dolly;2995105 said:
yes, I rather have that guy playing instead of this wussy version. UGH. If Romo is going to go down, I rather have him sinking while gunslinging the crap out of the field.

hell yea!
 

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nyc;2995997 said:
It has nothing to do with being undrafted. It has everything to do with being prepared come game time.

When the play is called, they should all know exactly what they are supposed to do without any doubt whatsoever.

Exactly.

This fire drill in the backfield where players are moving all over the place and Romo is pointing left and right and the ball snapped with 1 second on the clock has got to stop.

When a play is called, everybody should be able to line up and know exactly what routes they should be running and who they should be blocking. If you dont know what route to run or if you dont know the protection scheme, then sit your arse on the bench until you figure it out.

Isnt this Garrett's freaking job??? Isnt it the job of the offensive coordinator to make sure everybody knows what the hell is going on??? Come on Garrett coach damit, coach!!!!
 

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SLATEmosphere;2995086 said:
I don't know if I can stomach another 4 pick game where he's flinging it all around the field..

Getcha popcorn ready.
 

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Happened to me at work about 5 years ago. Cheeses *****ed about my ways, that I was a gunslinger so to speak etc

I then lost my balls for a year, tried to be the way they wanted, and they *****ed I didn't bill enough etc

Finally I said screw it, I will be the way I am, bill the crap out of people and lo and behold, three years later I became partner.

You have to give Tony his balls back.
 

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Royal Laegotti;2995102 said:
That's fine but howabout teach him how to throw a accurate forward pass again. I thought Quincy had snuck in under center yesterday with a #9 jersey on.

I think he is so worried about throwing an interception, that he is not just throwing the ball like he used to. Like someone said earlier, quit thinking and throw.
 

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I see both sides of the coin here. Spagnola's got a point. But he needs to make smarter decisions as well. What I believe is Tony's still developing. Right now he's 29-14 as a starter. That's no half bad guys. Which other quarterbacks in the league can claim that besides maybe Ben Recklessbiker? He's gonna improve. But it doesn't happen overnight. Having a full cast of teammates behind him wouldn't hurt either. Tony's got some maturing to do but he'll come along. Getting a REAL #1 receiver would be a step in the right direction.
 

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I thought the knock on Romo was September and October don't matter come see me in December and January?

Now all of a sudden September does matter. Tony up until now has been good to great for the most part. The problem is many chose not see that and focus only on team accomplishments or the lack thereof and point the finger on Tony.

I would hope that even the Tony bashers realize this is a totally different Tony than we have seen in the past.

I have no idea what is wrong with him; confidence, slump, or just a few bad games or something else. Whatever it is I hope he snaps out of it and soon and I think he will.
 

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iceberg;2996670 said:
then by that logic, it's *ALL* apples and oranges.

if TO were the difference maker here, then pray tell me, how many rings does he have from making so many successful qb's out there?

people compare what illustrates their point, people disagree with it interferes with their own.

romo flat out isn't the same player now as then. but it's not just mr TO who has made the difference. i think we're seeing 3 hard years take their toll on romo and fans who have not won in 13 want it now.

all romo can do is play. but with every fan-nugget-head out there telling him how he should be doing his job and a coaching staff that can't seem to help with the mental aspect of the game, he won't be able to play *very well*.

we'll see if he gets his head on straight but please, TO wasn't the sole reason for success.

I was actually wondering, since TO made Romo I wonder why he has not "made" Trent Edwards as of yet.
 

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Wrangler87;2997066 said:
I think he is so worried about throwing an interception, that he is not just throwing the ball like he used to. Like someone said earlier, quit thinking and throw.

I think you hit the nail on the head.

Romo has received so much criticism about being "Tony Turnover" that it is starting to affect his play. Like one poster said about playing golf, you just have to let your swing happen naturally. If you start thinking "shift my weight to my left foot at 3/4 swing, then turn hips on the follow through, and keep my head down, ect....." All of a sudden your swing turns to crap.

This is what is happenning with Romo I think. He is unsure exactly when and where to be throwing the ball. Romo may be thinking, "do I keep it high and to the outside shoulder or do I keep in low and to the inside, gotta keep both hands on the ball so I dont get stripped from behind, where are the safeties and are they baiting me into a throw, how come my recivers are running the wrong dam route????"

Just like in golf, his throws turn to crap at this point.
 

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Because like most QBs, Romo thinks like a QB first...and second...and third. What I mean is that their job is to throw the ball. They often think *I CAN MAKE THIS PASS* instead of putting faith into either handing it off or running it themselves.

He's definitely gone away from running the ball
 

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Bach;2996581 said:
So quality of the player is irrelevant? Is that what you're saying?

What are you, the media? Don't twist words to make a point. My response had nothing to do with talent levels, it had to do with a player knowing his job when he is on the field.

There have be way to many, wrong routes ran, half-***ing routes, lining up in the wrong formation, giving up on a route, and a couple of WR that didn't block down field the way they should have.

Ray Sherman is getting way to much credit right now. His guys aren't pulling their weight.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;2996547 said:
They were very beatable. Denver's offense did nothing against us for 3 quarters.

How does that make them very beatable? We did basically nothing against their's after the opening drive. So it evens out, now doesn't it? They could be saying the very same thing about our offense and we are supposed to have more weapons. Or so we're told.
 

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nyc said:
It has nothing to do with being undrafted

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What are you, the media? Don't twist words to make a point. My response had nothing to do with talent levels, it had to do with a player knowing his job when he is on the field.

There have be way to many, wrong routes ran, half-***ing routes, lining up in the wrong formation, giving up on a route, and a couple of WR that didn't block down field the way they should have.

Ray Sherman is getting way to much credit right now. His guys aren't pulling their weight.

Your first quote is above. I'm not twisting anything. We have 3 undrafted WR's and a 7th rounder on the team.

I think ALOT of our receiver problems have to do with having so many low end and undrafted WR's. The last WR we took in round 1 was Alvin Harper in the early '90's.

There's a reason why guys go undrafted. Lack of talent, lack of size/speed, lack of preparedness in their college careers, etc.

Some undrafted guys can turn into good NFL players. But to load up on them while neglecting to take the top prospects year in and year out is just out right ******** and a big part of that unit's problems.
 

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rcaldw;2995096 said:
Mickey Spagnola is the biggest joke of a reporter in existence. The guy has ZERO credibility. He is Jerry's wrag boy. Tell me the last time he wrote a hard hitting piece that took the Cowboys to task WITHOUT some positive spin on it?

Even if you are right, just shut up Mickey and go get your check from Jerry.

What's wrong with a reporter putting positive spin on things. He says negative things also, but not in the way Gallowaste does. He is the worst.

At least Mickey isn't out there making things up or using his speculations to sell papers. Like Clarence Hill does. Reports then asks questions, maybe he asks.
 
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