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Execution is key but it becomes very hard with dumb play calls like that 4th and 1 fb dive against pitt. now I know if he stayed behind his blockers he probably would've gotten the 1st but why call that in the 1st place? why not have deon blocking for Barber or Choice on that play?
 

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Rampage;2563240 said:
Execution is key but it becomes very hard with dumb play calls like that 4th and 1 fb dive against pitt. now I know if he stayed behind his blockers he probably would've gotten the 1st but why call that in the 1st place? why not have deon blocking for Barber or Choice on that play?

In my opinion, you answered your own question.

Execution.
 

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Idgit;2563204 said:
Tex, what's that saying about horses and midstream?

With this roster, we should have been able to execute. And complicating things for players who aren't doing the simple stuff right is not the sign of good coaching.

Putting a guy in motion shouldn't be too complicating.

Lining up with enough time to make adjustments shouldn't me too complicating.

Calling a QB sneak shouldn't be too complicating.

There are plenty of things that could have been to improve the offense that really don't involve complicating things.
 

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Easier said then done.....

You got to have talent....and lots of it....

The early 90's team had it....but even Shula couldnt get it going....

That being said.....hard to have that type of offense if the Qb struggles with his reads....the OL doesnt protect too well and WR's cant get open.

IMHO...the 90's team had more talent then most......our team isnt that much more talented then teams now. Especially in the NFC East division.

Keeping it simple and expecting our offense to execute against the top level teams wont get us anywhere. IMHO....not in this day of the NFL....JMHO.....all that would of got us would be a early exit from the playoffs.
 

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Rampage;2563240 said:
Execution is key but it becomes very hard with dumb play calls like that 4th and 1 fb dive against pitt. now I know if he stayed behind his blockers he probably would've gotten the 1st but why call that in the 1st place? why not have deon blocking for Barber or Choice on that play?

Run the play that was called to the best of your ability.
 

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BlueStar22;2563261 said:
Run the play that was called to the best of your ability.

Call plays that are geared toward maximizing the players abilities.
 

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Execution requires teamwork and that's this bunch's weakness, they don't do teamwork, too many are just out for themselves. There are many good solid players on this team but there are just enough self-centered jerks to throw things into a tailspin. Those guys need to get motivated or get gone, unfortunately some have cap situations that prevent them from being cut and they know it.

Kinda disgusting, huh?

I have seen psychological tests that can pinpoint these kinds of personalities and help employers avoid the kinds of personalities that can be a problem for them. I wonder if the combine includes any such testing?

I don't think Jerry cares as long as they're glitzy superstars.
 

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casmith07;2563165 said:
If there's no need to be tricking it up, then there's no need to run a reverse on 3rd and 1.

Fire Garrett.

Yes. He looked real stupid on that 4th down and 4 where instead of passing he called for a pitch to the speed back who busted the play for a 33 yard TD

Good call?

Or good execution?
 

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Like when Philly stopped those 90’s Cowboys on 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1? To say play calling doesn’t matter is almost too dumb to have to explain. Every team needs to have staples or plays they execute well and can rely on. I think it is mostly the old school folks that think the game is ONLY about man vs man. Wake up. Ok Newton, why not run that lead draw every single play? I mean, nobody can stop it right? Why even pass? Of course, to keep teams off balanced. That is something Garrett failed to do.
 

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AbeBeta;2563279 said:
Yes. He looked real stupid on that 4th down and 4 where instead of passing he called for a pitch to the speed back who busted the play for a 33 yard TD

Good call?

Or good execution?

Sha-freaking-zaam.

For every instance of playcalling that people want to piss and moan about, there are 2-3 instances of the opposite.
 

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AbeBeta;2563279 said:
Yes. He looked real stupid on that 4th down and 4 where instead of passing he called for a pitch to the speed back who busted the play for a 33 yard TD

Good call?

Or good execution?
Dude, that left a mark.
 

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IMO it's hard for anything to look good when you have an offensive line that has just been awful compared to last year. It seemed that every single play against the Ravens Romo was forced take his eyes off the field immediately to escape a free rusher, scan the field, and make a hurried throw to avoid getting sacked.

Everytime we get to a point where every single yard becomes important, you can bet Fatzell's gonna false start.

We need that 2007 Offensive Line back, because this one's gonna get Romo killed.

My question is, while you can blame the QB for making mistakes, how can you blame him when he has so much going against him? Receivers complaining about not getting the ball when they don't even run the right freaking route.

Romo makes a lot of mistakes at times, but the receivers and offensive linemen were not good this season.

However, one thing is I believe Garrett should have been on their butts more. There's no excuse for letting this lack of execution happen. Bench someone if you must.
 

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Hostile;2563172 said:
Mike said it doesn't matter how simple an offense it is because at the end of the day, it's about EXECUTION. Mike went on to say that their offense was simple. Everyone in the league knew what they were going to do but there is a difference in knowing what's coming and being able to stop it.

Right on the friggin' :money: and it will go right over the heads of the Tecmo Cryers.

And It's not Garret's fault he could NOT get HIS players to execute, with what did Mike and Nate say "Garrett's 7 simple plays?" :laugh2:

I mean, that's not the job of an Offensive Coordinator and Assistant Head Coach, right?

At least Mike and Nate should put us all at ease. If we for some reason lose Garrett we should rest assured in whoever we hire to replace him because as long as he has 7 plays scribbled on a napkin we should be fine. Oh, that is, until Jones also creates a position called "Executio Coach" and hires someone into it because we can't be silly enough to expect our offensive coordinator to be accountable for running an unexecuted and failing offense :rolleyes:
 

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NextGenBoys;2563239 said:
Nobody said it was simple being an OC
Well hey, I have about 6 passing plays and about 6 running plays I can use, but as long as the players execute, I will look like a genius.

My point is, the Ed Reed's and company knew the plays we were going to run based on tendencies from film and knew we would not change things up.

So if I'm a defender and know that TO will do a deep corner route based on certain formations, I just simply go over to that corner and wait for smart Romo to throw it over there anyways. IMO, it's the scheme.

You have a HUGE offensive line, but no patience to run it twice in a row? You do play-action passes on 3rd and 15, who the heck is going to believe you're going to possibly hand it off?

You move TO in the back field and run him on 3rd and short? You throw it 10 times in a row against a dime defense? You see that a team is flooding the LOS sending more rushers than blockers and you call no screens or you can't audible into max protection?

You call 1 slant pattern in 5 games to one of the best slant receivers in history?
You have a star speed runner on the side line (felix before he was hurt) but somehow you forget he was fast and didn't give him 1 carry the entire game earlier in the season?

You have Bennett who's 7'10, and you can't single him up on a short LB and throw a fade when you're in the red zone, or more fades to RW?

If you know we have sorry pass protecting tackles based on certain DEs, you roll the pocket, throw screens, not just the same old screens but different types of screens?

Garrett has absolutely no patience, and if I had an offensive line like New England, I wouldn't have patience either but we don't, and if he couldn't figure that out, maybe he's not a genius, we figured it out.

It's no secret that our offense couldn't move the ball as well after Norv left town, and even Michael himself forgot how they totally shut him down in the late 90s, they knew his same old boring routes and jumped them, I remember that clearly.

So I'm throwing everybody under the bus starting with Jerry Jones to the coaches to the players to the sorry fans including myself.
 

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90's Cowboys........What you saw was alot of 6-10 yd Quik Slants by Irvin as his bread and butter.........and when they floated a LB/ S a little wider to take that away........Novacek and Troy hooked up on 7- 10 yd routes like clockwork......Emmitt took his share to the house, but he lived on a 4-6 yd gain.

They were patient.......and yes the Oline protected and it created run lanes

Troy thought a good day was 17-24 for 237 ......and a win

Irvin didnt live on a 15+ yd pattern up the sidelines......as TO does or is asked---move the chains

Novacek didnt run the number of deep patterns that Witten is asked to--keep the chains moveing

They were patient until the def. lost thier patience......then the homerun.

I remember Parcels, then with SB Giants....flatly stateing he saw the plan J.Johnson was putting together....and he got out of the division......

they were almost as patient as a West Coast offense.....
 

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gbrittain;2563193 said:
People are placing way to much blame on Jason G. Nate and Michael are exactly right. How complex are the Steelers, Titans, Giants, and Ravens offense?

JG has been scapegoated around here.

difference is that those guys run the football

a simplistic offense where you ask the QB to drop back 30-35 times a game will get a mother killed
 

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Here's some questions I have for the Garrett apologists who want to absolve him of HIS players not executing (that IS what you all are doing in this thresad).

If Garrett should be unacountable for that, then why shouldn't Wade Wilson, Dallas' QB Coach, also be unaccountable for HIS QB not progressing this season? I mean, Romo didn't execute; that can't be Wilson's fault? Same goes for Hudson Hauke with respect to the OL right?

And What about Wade Phillips? If the PLAYERS on offense didn't execute, then it's not his fauly either; it's the players, just like it's not Phillips' credit that the defense executed when he took over for that unit. I mean, that wasn't Phillips' doing; it was mere coincidence. And so he must have been right to not get on Garrett Wilson and Hauke about this because it's not their fault, just like it wasn't his.

And if its not the coaches fualts then why should they have done anything differently? So then that would make Jones correct to say "the coaching staff is in place", right? After all, that was unanimously believed BEFORE the players failed to execute, right?
 

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its all in execution............if the players made the plays he called then everything would be fine.................

id hate to see him go ....I for one think he would make A great HC ......
 
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