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I still get to see him and interact with him on another Cowboys site. He's still the biggest cheer leader among fans for Garrett. I have always liked him and I like talking with him and reading his stuff. It's always good.

I like his stuff too and I miss it.

But I found the other site to be too sterilized and too much of a cheerleading party for my tastes. If there's one thing I have no tolerance for, it's censorship or controlling information. Right or wrong, that's what I felt was happening.

I think this team has serious issues and wishing them away or turning a blind eye to them isn't my idea of the answer.
 

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I agree with this but at the same time the Cowboys need to stop listening to what people have to say and do whatever it takes to win games.

I've never seen a team be so influenced week to week by the fans and media like the Dallas Cowboys.


Romo and the Cowboys need to play to win on offense. Just like they did against Denver.

I don't think they're listening to fans and media. It just seems that way because the media gives us every little tidbit imaginable.
 

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Is this a joke? When your offense rarely sees the field and you force the run all night, your QB who still manages to score 3 TDs ISN'T to blame. This loss is completely on the defense.

In a game like this your O has to keep pace with what the other team is doing. We failed to do that despite having a supposed advantage over the Bears' hurting defense. As JG said, it was a total team loss, although he neglected to mention his own contributions to the steaming pile...
 

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I don't think they're listening to fans and media. It just seems that way because the media gives us every little tidbit imaginable.

I do, especially offensively.

Over the past month, Murray has gone from a 4-carry forgotten man to the centerpiece of the offense?

That ain't design, it's reactionary.
 

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Harris runs the ball out to midfield and the offense goes 3 and out, defense's fault.

Not going for it on 4th down of aforementioned drive, defense's fault.

Romo overthrowing Dez by a mile high, defense's fault.

Romo throwing it into the ground on 4th and 9, defense's fault.

I guess we can conclude this loss was indeed completely on the defense.

11/20. Basically, when the defense gives up a score on every series, you are expecting the QB to be 20/20. Gotcha.
Not going for it on 4th down (Garrett's fault)
 

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This is an unrealistic expectation. The defense has to stop the other team sometimes. They never did last night. This is a point that can't be brushed aside or emphasized enough.

You're missing the point. We were down 17-14 with 1:30 left in the second quarter. Got the ball back. that was the opportune time to get a quick score. But as usual, in that type of situation, we don't do squat, go 3 and out in 40 seconds, and keep the momentum going for them. Then what happens? They score in 47 seconds to go up 24-14 at the half. Game over at that point.

It's in those particular instances in a game that this offense needs to show some guts. However, this is the exact scenario when they curl up and run away scared.
 

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He used to try to make stuff happen and people *****ed and moaned about him not protecting the ball. Now he's protecting the ball and people are *****ing and moaning about that. Romo can't win with this defense or this fan base.

Put me in the make stuff something happen category then. I'll take that over falling down immediately and losing yards and wasting a play.
 

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This is an unrealistic expectation. The defense has to stop the other team sometimes. They never did last night. This is a point that can't be brushed aside or emphasized enough.

You're missing the point. We were down 17-14 with 1:30 left in the second quarter. Got the ball back. that was the opportune time to get a quick score. But as usual, in that type of situation, we don't do squat, go 3 and out in 40 seconds, and keep the momentum going for them. Then what happens? They score in 47 seconds to go up 24-14 at the half. Game over at that point.

It's in those particular instances in a game that this offense needs to show some guts. However, this is the exact scenario when they curl up and run away scared.
You're missing the point. We were down 17-14 with 1:30 left in the second quarter. Got the ball back. that was the opportune time to get a quick score. But as usual, in that type of situation, we don't do squat, go 3 and out in 40 seconds, and keep the momentum going for them. Then what happens? They score in 47 seconds to go up 24-14 at the half. Game over at that point.

It's in those particular instances in a game that this offense needs to show some guts. However, this is the exact scenario when they curl up and run away scared.

Then, in the 3rd qtr, the bears drive for a FG. We get the ball back and go 3 and out in 50 Seconds!! You think that demoralizes a defense a little bit? 50 freakin seconds when down 27-14.
 

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Tony Romo was fine yesterday ( here are all of his passes) A lot of the incomplete passes were bad routes or drops by the WR. This game is on the defense. The 4th down throwing the ball away was the right choice. Center lost his protection and there was no positive outcome by throwing the ball to the middle of the field. Live to see another drive errr game.

2nd and 4 at CHI 38Tony Romo pass incomplete to Miles Austin. (Dropped Pass)
3rd and 4 at CHI 38Tony Romo pass complete to DeMarco Murray for 6 yards to the CHICAGO 32, tackled by James Anderson for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at CHI 32Tony Romo pass complete to Miles Austin for 4 yards to the CHICAGO 28, tackled by Zack Bowman.
3rd and 3 at CHI 25Tony Romo pass complete to Cole Beasley for 11 yards to the CHICAGO 14, tackled by Isaiah Frey for a 1ST down.
1st and 0 at CHI 2Tony Romo pass incomplete to Jason Witten.
2nd and 0 at CHI 2Tony Romo pass complete to Dez Bryant for 2 yards for a TOUCHDOWN.

2nd and 10 at DAL 30Tony Romo pass complete to DeMarco Murray for 3 yards to the DALLAS 33.
1st and 10 at DAL Tony Romo pass complete to Gavin Escobar for 25 yards to the CHICAGO 43, tackled by Chris Conte and Khaseem Greene for a 1ST down.


3rd and 2 at CHI 10Tony Romo pass complete to Jason Witten for 10 yards for a TOUCHDOWN.
1st and 10 at DAL 29Tony Romo pass complete to Dez Bryant for 10 yards to the DALLAS 39, tackled by Major Wright and Tim Jennings for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at DAL 39Tony Romo pass incomplete to Jason Witten. (Wiiten dropped an easy ball)
2nd and 10 at DAL 39Tony Romo pass incomplete to DeMarco Murray. (Murray didn't sit down in his route)
3rd and 10 at DAL 39Tony Romo pass incomplete to Terrance Williams, broken up by Zack Bowman. (Little high of a throw (tough catch, but could of been made)

3rd and 4 at CHI 41Tony Romo pass incomplete to Dez Bryant. (Bad throw) - But windy conditions deep ball.
1st and 10 at DAL 40Tony Romo pass complete to Terrance Williams for 18 yards to the CHICAGO 42 for a 1ST down.
2nd and 15 at CHI 47Tony Romo pass incomplete to DeMarco Murray. (Bad Route By Murray)
3rd and 15 at CHI 47Tony Romo pass complete to James Hanna for 6 yards to the CHICAGO 41, tackled by Major Wright.
2nd and 8 at CHI 9Tony Romo pass incomplete to Dez Bryant. (Fade Route Good Coverage)
3rd and 8 at CHI 9Tony Romo pass complete to Cole Beasley for 9 yards for a TOUCHDOWN. (Great Throw)
 

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Harris runs the ball out to midfield and the offense goes 3 and out, defense's fault.

Not going for it on 4th down of aforementioned drive, defense's fault.

Romo overthrowing Dez by a mile high, defense's fault.

Romo throwing it into the ground on 4th and 9, defense's fault.

I guess we can conclude this loss was indeed completely on the defense.

You make 0 sense.
 

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With the players we have on Offense, this team should be dropping 35 to 40 points every game.

Denver's defense isn't good (they've given up 3 less points than us), but somehow they are 11-2.

Compare their skill players to ours on O, and explain to me why we only score 27 ppg and Denver scores 42 ppg.

Reason #1: System
Reason #2: QB

Whats the yards against/time of possession comparison? Just curious...
 

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Harris runs the ball out to midfield and the offense goes 3 and out, defense's fault.

Not going for it on 4th down of aforementioned drive, defense's fault.

Romo overthrowing Dez by a mile high, defense's fault.

Romo throwing it into the ground on 4th and 9, defense's fault.

I guess we can conclude this loss was indeed completely on the defense.

so if an offense doesnt score on every possession and the team loses its the offenses fault? offenses cant be perfect. you can do the same thing to the broncos offense after every game at pick apart the reasons that the offense didnt score.. the fact of the matter is we couldnt stop the bears offense to get our offense back on the field with enough opportunities.
 

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You're missing the point. We were down 17-14 with 1:30 left in the second quarter. Got the ball back. that was the opportune time to get a quick score. But as usual, in that type of situation, we don't do squat, go 3 and out in 40 seconds, and keep the momentum going for them. Then what happens? They score in 47 seconds to go up 24-14 at the half. Game over at that point.

It's in those particular instances in a game that this offense needs to show some guts. However, this is the exact scenario when they curl up and run away scared.

And you've mistakenly tried to pin that on Romo when it's been clearly pointed out to NOT be the case at all, yet you run away from that fact, why?

Witten dropped a ball right in his hands, not on Romo.

Murray runs a lousy, half-arsed route, not on Romo.

Williams drops a ball that hit him in the hands, not on Romo.

And yet, somehow, you still try to pin it on him despite all evidence to the contrary?


Then, in the 3rd qtr, the bears drive for a FG. We get the ball back and go 3 and out in 50 Seconds!! You think that demoralizes a defense a little bit? 50 freakin seconds when down 27-14.

You know what demoralizes a defense?

Not being able to do their job even once.

THAT is what demoralizes a defense.

And an entire team overall.
 

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so if an offense doesnt score on every possession and the team loses its the offenses fault? offenses cant be perfect. you can do the same thing to the broncos offense after every game at pick apart the reasons that the offense didnt score.. the fact of the matter is we couldnt stop the bears offense to get our offense back on the field with enough opportunities.

ok.
 

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When your defense doesn't stop the opposing team's offense not one time ... let me repeat that ... when your defense doesn't stop the opposing team's offense not one time, it aint on your offense.
That's like your defense stopping the opposing offense every single time, giving your offense good field position, and your offense can't score once. Would anyone criticize the defense for not converting a turnover into a touchdown under such a scenario?
Romo and the offense would have had to score on EVERY possession in order to beat the Bears because, essentially, that's what it took.
Sorry, I've been a critic of Romo's but this game loss aint on him.
 

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Harris runs the ball out to midfield and the offense goes 3 and out, defense's fault.

Not going for it on 4th down of aforementioned drive, defense's fault.

Romo overthrowing Dez by a mile high, defense's fault.

Romo throwing it into the ground on 4th and 9, defense's fault.

I guess we can conclude this loss was indeed completely on the defense.


He missed some passes certainly, but not his fault Id rather him throw in the dirt then force it and turn the ball over. Last night it didnt matter we were down 28 points but in a closer game i take the dirt throw over the int any day of the week
 

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And you've mistakenly tried to pin that on Romo when it's been clearly pointed out to NOT be the case at all, yet you run away from that fact, why?

Witten dropped a ball right in his hands, not on Romo.

Murray runs a lousy, half-arsed route, not on Romo.

Williams drops a ball that hit him in the hands, not on Romo.

And yet, somehow, you still try to pin it on him despite all evidence to the contrary?




You know what demoralizes a defense?

Not being able to do their job even once.

THAT is what demoralizes a defense.

And an entire team overall.

I'm saying our Offense stinks as a whole, not just Romo. When did this turn into a Romo issue?
 

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Have to stop with this it's everyone fault but Romo. said Romo was bad too last night.(which is true) im sick and tired of him taking a dive when a D-Linemen gets anywhere near him.i was shock to hear Fisher say this.he is one of the main Romo supporters.the main problem with this team is Jerry Jones. but make no mistake about this.this pitiful defense and Romo and this offense are part of the problem. what a mess.

Take a dive? Are you serious, or just seriously deluded?

Romo was sacked twice. On the first he was hit and went down, and on the second, after his feet went out from under him, he got back to his feet and tried to make a play still.
 

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I'm saying our Offense stinks as a whole, not just Romo. When did this turn into a Romo issue?

Sorry, I may have mistaken your stance for someone else's. Apologize for that.

But my point is that Romo is not to blame for what happened last night, more than just about any other player, he did his part to help this team win.

But no quarterback, and no offense, can win with a defense that can't even force a single punt.
 
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