Mike Leach fired

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Who's the most spoiled kid on the block, James or Leach?
 

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Adam Jones' vid doesn't look anything like the media room Leach's attorney showed off. Someone's lying.
 

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WarC;3188594 said:
Adam Jones' vid doesn't look anything like the media room Leach's attorney showed off. Someone's lying.

The trainer who was ordered to do this stuff has come out and specifically detailed the conditions James was put in.
 

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Dawgs0916;3188607 said:
The trainer who was ordered to do this stuff has come out and specifically detailed the conditions James was put in.

Where is this posted? I'd like to read.
 

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kmp77;3188618 said:
Where is this posted? I'd like to read.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4787194

Texas Tech head football athletic trainer Steve Pincock said Red Raiders receiver Adam James was placed in a "sports medicine garage" and media room as "big as a two-car garage" while recovering from a concussion, and was monitored by two trainers at all times.


Pincock's account of the incident, given in a statement to representatives of former Texas Tech coach Mike Leach, contradicts James' version of events that led to Leach being fired Wednesday.


James, who is the son of ESPN college football analyst Craig James, sustained a concussion on Dec. 16. He was examined the following day and told not to practice because of the injury and an elevated heart rate.



Pincock's statement was obtained by ESPN.com on Thursday night from Leach's representatives. Pincock refused further comment when reached on his cell phone in San Antonio, Texas, where the Red Raiders are preparing to play Michigan State in Saturday's Alamo Bowl.


A source told ESPN's Joe Schad that Leach called a trainer and directed him to move James "to the darkest place, to clean out the equipment and to make sure that he could not sit or lean. He was confined for three hours."
According to the source, Leach told the trainer, two days later, to "put [James] in the darkest, tightest spot. It was in an electrical closet, again, with a guard posted outside."


However, Pincock said James was initially placed in a "sports medicine garage, there is no lock on this building." Pincock said injured players are typically asked to perform exercises during practice, but "James could not participate in these drills, and was originally asked to walk around the field."
"Adam showed up to practice in street clothes, no team gear, and dark sunglasses," Pincock said, according to the statement. "Adam walked about 40 to 50 yards, very slowly and with a non-caring attitude."


Pincock said Leach then asked that James be moved to a location "where sunlight could not bother him as he was wearing sunglasses."
"I instructed Adam to stay in the garage and out of the sun, so the light would not worsen his condition," Pincock said in the statement. "While in the garage, Adam was walking around, eating ice, sitting on the ground, and, at one point, sleeping; atno point was there any enforcement to make Adam stand up."


Leach, during an on-air interview Thursday night with ESPN, said he had not suggested any place specific for James. "I said, find some place dark and one place was as good as the next, and that was close to the field, and plus they had the ice machine," Leach said.


Two days later, while the Red Raiders practiced at Jones AT&T Stadium, James was placed in a room that is used for postgame interviews involving opposing coaches and players. James told school officials he was placed in an electrical closet inside the room.
"I walked Adam to the room, which was at least as big as a two-car garage," Pincock wrote. "Inside the room there is an electrical closet. I looked in the closet and stated that there was 'no way that Adam would be placed in there.' I shut the door to the electrical closet, and it was never opened again. At no time during this practice was Adam ever placed in the electrical closet."


During Thursday's interview, Leach said he believed money was a motivating factor in his dismissal.
"Last year, they didn't want to pay the money [in contract negotiations]. Based on popular opinion and public pressure and things like that, they got in a position where, to save face, they had to give me a competitive contract, which they did," he said. "Then I think, whether it's for financial reasons or what, they decided not to follow through. Now essentially they're trying to steal the money."
 

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Hmm...so was Adam's video just him going into the little closet while being in the bigger room? So either he was locked in that little closet or he was put in the bigger room but went into the little room to make it seem worse. If the latter, then man, could that open you up to litigation?
 

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kmp77;3188648 said:
Hmm...so was Adam's video just him going into the little closet while being in the bigger room? So either he was locked in that little closet or he was put in the bigger room but went into the little room to make it seem worse. If the latter, then man, could that open you up to litigation?

People have no way of knowing when or where he took that video. I can go into an electrical closet and claim my business math teacher locked me in there to get out of a test.
 

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The James' are a joke, a slothful joke, his son will have to live at home until he's 40 because he's a good for nothing cad
 

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Dawgs0916;3188664 said:
People have no way of knowing when or where he took that video. I can go into an electrical closet and claim my business math teacher locked me in there to get out of a test.

I'm a Tech alum, do you think the football programs future is as bad as it appears?

Any chance the regents and Gerald Myers can be run out of town? Sounds like they played the petty political games they learned while working for our pathetic government and the fans, the football program and Leach are going to pay for it.

Hopefully, my emotions are causing me to see things irrationally and it won't end up as bad as it presently looks.

Does anyone know if Tech has already had recruits back out of commitments?
 

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yimyammer;3188752 said:
I'm a Tech alum, do you think the football programs future is as bad as it appears?

Any chance the regents and Gerald Myers can be run out of town? Sounds like they played the petty political games they learned while working for our pathetic government and the fans, the football program and Leach are going to pay for it.

Hopefully, my emotions are causing me to see things irrationally and it won't end up as bad as it presently looks.

Does anyone know if Tech has already had recruits back out of commitments?

I think I read where 1 highly recruited player backed out but not sure of others.
 

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"I walked Adam to the room, which was at least as big as a two-car garage," Pincock wrote. "Inside the room there is an electrical closet. I looked in the closet and stated that there was 'no way that Adam would be placed in there.' I shut the door to the electrical closet, and it was never opened again. At no time during this practice was Adam ever placed in the electrical closet."




So instead of just saying keep him in the media room he looked into this closet and said there's no way Adam is to be placed in there? :laugh2: Talk about covering your own ***.

I just told my wife to send the kids to their room but first I told her there's no way they are to be placed into their closets, just in case they go in there and make a video.:lmao2:
 

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jimmy40;3188838 said:
"I walked Adam to the room, which was at least as big as a two-car garage," Pincock wrote. "Inside the room there is an electrical closet. I looked in the closet and stated that there was 'no way that Adam would be placed in there.' I shut the door to the electrical closet, and it was never opened again. At no time during this practice was Adam ever placed in the electrical closet."




So instead of just saying keep him in the media room he looked into this closet and said there's no way Adam is to be placed in there? :laugh2: Talk about covering your own ***.

I just told my wife to send the kids to their room but first I told her there's no way they are to be placed into their closets, just in case they go in there and make a video.:lmao2:

Busted.

Leach's full ESPN interview is an Al Davis style meltdown.
 

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yimyammer;3188752 said:
I'm a Tech alum, do you think the football programs future is as bad as it appears?

Any chance the regents and Gerald Myers can be run out of town? Sounds like they played the petty political games they learned while working for our pathetic government and the fans, the football program and Leach are going to pay for it.

Hopefully, my emotions are causing me to see things irrationally and it won't end up as bad as it presently looks.

Does anyone know if Tech has already had recruits back out of commitments?

I'll tell you this much, we students and many alumni have been flossing Kent hance, Gerald myers and guy baileys voicemails. I've sent emails as well.

The overall ego issue, an cheapskate mentality that this whole situation reaks of is disgusting.

As far as recruits I haven't heard of anyone dropping off but I wouldn't be surprised. We had a good recrutinh class this year too. It's a damn shame.
 

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I'll ask this question again and again and again, ad nauseum, because NOBODY, ESPECIALLY any party directly involved, has come up with a credible answer.

If the kid was sooo talentless, such a malcontent and disciplinary problem. If his high-profile Dad was such a meddlesome, unwelcome interloper.

WHY WOULD YOU KEEP HIM ON YOUR PROGRAM!!??
 

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Probably nobody has answered you because it's an irrelevant question.

What does his talent -- or lack thereof -- or his dad's complaining have to do with whether or not he was abused and false imprisoned? Nothing.
 

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DallasCowpoke;3188965 said:
I'll ask this question again and again and again, ad nauseum, because NOBODY, ESPECIALLY any party directly involved, has come up with a credible answer.

If the kid was sooo talentless, such a malcontent and disciplinary problem. If his high-profile Dad was such a meddlesome, unwelcome interloper.

WHY WOULD YOU KEEP HIM ON YOUR PROGRAM!!??

I'm absolutely sure that has nothing to do with the issue at hand.

Not to mention it would be bad press on the program to kick Craig James son off the team. But still, irrelevant.
 

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Chocolate Lab;3188978 said:
Probably nobody has answered you because it's an irrelevant question.

What does his talent -- or lack thereof -- or his dad's complaining have to do with whether or not he was abused and false imprisoned? Nothing.
Why was it brought up to begin with?
 

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Dawgs0916;3188982 said:
I'm absolutely sure that has nothing to do with the issue at hand.

Not to mention it would be bad press on the program to kick Craig James son off the team. But still, irrelevant.

Chocolate Lab;3188978 said:
Probably nobody has answered you because it's an irrelevant question.

What does his talent -- or lack thereof -- or his dad's complaining have to do with whether or not he was abused and false imprisoned? Nothing.

Really? Leach surrrre mentioned it a LOT in his 7 min ESPN interview last night for an irrelevant, non-issue.
 

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Go Get Him Jerry! We need a tough coach in Big D!








was Leach actually serious!?
 

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casmith07;3189029 said:
Go Get Him Jerry! We need a tough coach in Big D!








was Leach actually serious!?

He'd be a great OC. He's brilliant offensively and there's no way a person can deny that.
 
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