Mike Lombardi's Dallas Free Agent Target

Nightman

Capologist
Messages
27,121
Reaction score
24,038
Maybe I'm just luke warm on Ingram, he's been good the last few years but I don't see him being worth the contract he'll ultimately get
So even if he is better than everyone we have on the team you don't want him because of a perceived notion of being overpaid...even though his signing means we lose no one of any value

Hard to agree with that kind of thinking
 

waldoputty

Well-Known Member
Messages
23,375
Reaction score
21,163
So even if he is better than everyone we have on the team you don't want him because of a perceived notion of being overpaid...even though his signing means we lose no one of any value

Hard to agree with that kind of thinking


Particularly we are approaching the end of Dez's good years and using up Zeke's prime
Dez will be 29 next season.
You look at this chart and do you think we have time to mess around?

WR_byDecade2.jpg
 

Manwiththeplan

Well-Known Member
Messages
14,289
Reaction score
7,785
So even if he is better than everyone we have on the team you don't want him because of a perceived notion of being overpaid...even though his signing means we lose no one of any value

Hard to agree with that kind of thinking

Eventually signing guys to over inflated deals will bite you in the ***. I could easily be wrong on him living up to a $14/15 million dollar plus deal, but I'd be suprised
 

Nightman

Capologist
Messages
27,121
Reaction score
24,038
Eventually signing guys to over inflated deals will bite you in the ***. I could easily be wrong on him living up to a $14/15 million dollar plus deal, but I'd be suprised
Eventually we might win a Super Bowl but I want to try right now......after we get one we can build the dynasty
 

Manwiththeplan

Well-Known Member
Messages
14,289
Reaction score
7,785
Eventually we might win a Super Bowl but I want to try right now......after we get one we can build the dynasty

Every year multiple deals are signed that teams ultimately regret, where as only one team wins the super bowl. Not exactly the equal odds that your post seems to suggest
 

waldoputty

Well-Known Member
Messages
23,375
Reaction score
21,163
Every year multiple deals are signed that teams ultimately regret, where as only one team wins the super bowl. Not exactly the equal odds that your post seems to suggest

if we improve the D with 1- 2 good FAs, we would be the equal of the Falcons or the Patriots.
if we can get a few decent D players, i would not even mind drafting a WR and RT high.
if we do not, we are pretty stuck drafting D or it would be totally irresponsible to the 2017 chances.
 

waldoputty

Well-Known Member
Messages
23,375
Reaction score
21,163
You miss all the shots you don't take.........not signing FAs isn't a badge of honor......just do your job and sign the right ones

yep, if we trust them with picking the right #1 picks, why cant we trust them with finding the right FA?
i guess the consequences are larger, but they also have a lot more data on the player in the nfl...
 

Manwiththeplan

Well-Known Member
Messages
14,289
Reaction score
7,785
You miss all the shots you don't take.........not signing FAs isn't a badge of honor......just do your job and sign the right ones

How many shots did the Patriots take last free agency period? Or the Steelers, or Packers? The Falcons were the only team out of the four who were active. Sometimes doing your job is looking at high prices free agents and deciding they are not worth it.
 

waldoputty

Well-Known Member
Messages
23,375
Reaction score
21,163
How many shots did the Patriots take last free agency period? Or the Steelers, or Packers? The Falcons were the only team out of the four who were active. Sometimes doing your job is looking at high prices free agents and deciding they are not worth it.

The point is that the Cowboys are the only team with the unreal surreal insane weakness in DL.
The Steelers, Packers and Patriots had more reasonable defenses.

i already pointed out dez's remaining prime a few posts above.
zeke's prime may be 5 years, and next year would be the 2nd.
to not address it decisively is to threw out the remaining primes of dez and lee.
3 years from now, they would not be the same players.
typically, 1st year DEs do not contribute that much.
if you realistically look at the situation, the best option is FA and a good one at that.

there are risks in everything we do.
taking action has risks
nonaction also has risks.
 

waldoputty

Well-Known Member
Messages
23,375
Reaction score
21,163
How is what I said not going BPA? Sitting back and taking a DE that falls to you is potentially not going BPA, but that's not what I said

the best player that fall to you may well not be a DE
that is how we ended up with Shante Carver?

what if the BPA is Dez's potential replacement or some other position other than RDE?
 

tm1119

Well-Known Member
Messages
10,016
Reaction score
8,800
Addison getting only $22M over 3 years is actually fairly encouraging. Obviously I would rather have him on our team with that contract, but it doesn't set the market too high. Won't help for guys like JPP on Ingram, but hopefully we can get 1 of the 2nd teir pass rushers at a reasonable price
 

waldoputty

Well-Known Member
Messages
23,375
Reaction score
21,163
Addison getting only $22M over 3 years is actually fairly encouraging. Obviously I would rather have him on our team with that contract, but it doesn't set the market too high. Won't help for guys like JPP on Ingram, but hopefully we can get 1 of the 2nd teir pass rushers at a reasonable price

dont want to sound negative...
unfortunately supply just went down and the price just probably went up.
assuming there is anyone worth signing left...
 
Last edited:

Manwiththeplan

Well-Known Member
Messages
14,289
Reaction score
7,785
the best player that fall to you may well not be a DE
that is how we ended up with Shante Carver?

what if the BPA is Dez's potential replacement or some other position other than RDE?

What's aggressive about taking what ever DE falls to us?

I think they should identify which DEs will make an impact in this scheme and go get them. Nothing crazy like trading up into the top 15, but maybe closer to 20.

Also taking the best lineman that fell to us is also how we ended up with Travis Frederick, so sitting pat in the draft doesn't always yield shante carver, the key is not to reach
 
Top