Mike Lombardi's Dallas Free Agent Target

JoeKing

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theres no team i hate more than the giants.. and it will always be that way.. you can say im defending them if you want thats fine if thats how you see it.. but im definitely keeping it real with myself..

usually teams that do what the giants did on defense doesnt work.. but in their first year they were able to drastically change their defense and it became a strength of their team and not a weakness.

Being a cowboys fan and giants being a rival shouldnt mean i have to not speak the truth just because they are a team I hate.. I choose logic..

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JoeKing

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Look at all the $$ the Cowboys paid out, and they didn't win a playoff game either.
You need to back up and look at the thread topic. We are talking about free agency. The Giants invested a great deal through free agency last season. The Cowboys didn't do that. The Cowboys and Giants live under the salary cap but they do it two different ways.
 

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Everyone over pays for good players in FA, I prefer to build depth and trust McClay, the only exception I might make is Hankins or Poe..we have some talented guys in Irving, Lawrence, and Mayowa on the outside. I really think if we can stop the run and still get our running game working like it did this year, we will be tough to beat. And get more pressure from the outside.
 

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Then we'll end up *****ing for another year about these QBs running roughshod on the defense. Pass rusher and LT are about equal, right behind QBs for most valuable positions. The other positions really aren't close as CB is probably a fairly distant 4th. It's also a position that transfers to other systems extremely well and probably better than any other position. If they choose not to pay to bring in Ingram or even JPP, this teams method is flawed.


Extreme hyperbole much? Did we just go 8-8 with one of the worst D's in the league, or was it 13-3 with a D top 5 in scoring?

Subtract Jack Crawford and Ryan Davis and add Demarcus Ware, Charles Tapper, and a 1st/2nd round pick and our D line should be just fine. Mortgaging the farm to guarantee $50+M to Melvin Ingram to get 8-10 sacks a year hardly seems like a bullet proof plan by the way...Since when did 18.5 sacks in 2 years became such an impressive total? Yeah it's much better than what we have, but throwing loads of $ at a problem hardly ever works.
 

Eddie

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I'm just curious how we're the worst off team cap space wise in the entire NFL ???
 

TheMarathonContinues

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I really hope they dont. This is one of the years Dallas has to take the draft serious if they want a SB ring. The poking and hoping method isnt working. You need someone to get to the qb, or take double coverage so one of our other people on the team can do it. Someone has to get there.
You need that but you aren't getting that in this years draft.
 

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Extreme hyperbole much? Did we just go 8-8 with one of the worst D's in the league, or was it 13-3 with a D top 5 in scoring?

Subtract Jack Crawford and Ryan Davis and add Demarcus Ware, Charles Tapper, and a 1st/2nd round pick and our D line should be just fine. Mortgaging the farm to guarantee $50+M to Melvin Ingram to get 8-10 sacks a year hardly seems like a bullet proof plan by the way...Since when did 18.5 sacks in 2 years became such an impressive total? Yeah it's much better than what we have, but throwing loads of $ at a problem hardly ever works.

18.5 sacks is impressive. Especially any year you get double digit sacks.
 

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Was that don't a typo, or are you insinuating signing Ingram will somehow stop the Cowboys from taking the draft seriously?

i do have the fear, that if Dallas gambles on ingram, than yes they might look elsewhere at the draft and convince them the player they need will not be there. its an opinion but Dallas has done that before.
 

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Extreme hyperbole much? Did we just go 8-8 with one of the worst D's in the league, or was it 13-3 with a D top 5 in scoring?

Subtract Jack Crawford and Ryan Davis and add Demarcus Ware, Charles Tapper, and a 1st/2nd round pick and our D line should be just fine. Mortgaging the farm to guarantee $50+M to Melvin Ingram to get 8-10 sacks a year hardly seems like a bullet proof plan by the way...Since when did 18.5 sacks in 2 years became such an impressive total? Yeah it's much better than what we have, but throwing loads of $ at a problem hardly ever works.

That makes too much sense.

Giving Ingram a huge contract for 8 sacks in 950 doesn't impress me.

Ware/Addison/Sheard... One of those would be fine & dandy. Ware would probably be the least expensive.
 

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18.5 sacks is impressive. Especially any year you get double digit sacks.

18.5 sacks in a single season is impressive...9 sacks a year is above average. A cap hit of $16-19M over minimum the next 3 years should not get you above average production. That player better be an all world performer, and Ingram hasn't shown that at all.
 

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I'm sure Ingram fits a lot teams schemes so several GMs will be bidding for his services.
 

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all this building through the draft and we had a good draft last year and we still cant win a playoff game somehow they need to do some thing extra on defense besides the draft.
 

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The Giants way overspent but let's be real here. The Giants defense was VERY good as evidenced by the fact it shut out offebse down twice. They are very stron up front.

The Giants offense is the weak link and offensive line in particular. I wouldn't be surprised if they are all over Leary.
 

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There's no such thing. It's a unicorn for owners to hide behind when they don't want to tilt the profit margins past a certain point. Contracts can be structured and restructured in an infinite number of ways to make room for anything you want to do.

Mike Fisher talks about it all the time, and he's right on this.


If that were totally true Jerry and Danny Boy would have the last 20 championships between them and Ware and DeMarco Murray would still be Cowboys and Romo would be your backup at 14 million this year. We would also be resigning Leary, and Mo and Carr, and cutting the weak link after the draft.

If you really believe that untenable position then you are not being remotely objective about it. It is an absurd point of view.
 

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Pass.

The guy had 950+ snaps this season and 8 sacks.

Not impressed.

Mayowa had 6 sacks in 350 snaps.

Addison or Sheard would be better values than Ingram.

going by sacks is not the best stat. how about pressures?
we need someone who draws double teams.
i dont care if his name is addison, sheard, ingram or even winiciki.
 
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