Mike Martz: Deep Dive Analysis of Dak's Ints This Year

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CowboyRoy

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It’s ridiculous.

A lot of people just want to be right in their long held beliefs in the guy.

They want to win the argument, nothing more.
They lost the Dak argument long ago.
 

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I mean the title of the article is common sense.
Dak has been in the league a long time and never shown any issue with INT. Now after 1 season of high INT it really doesn't require a major dissection,

It would be shocking if Dak did not throw far fewer INT in 2023.

Dak clearly had too much belief in that receiving corps and that is probably why Gallup has been demoted and Schultz has been allowed to walk for a paycut.
 

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I mean the title of the article is common sense.
Dak has been in the league a long time and never shown any issue with INT. Now after 1 season of high INT it really doesn't require a major dissection,

It would be shocking if Dak did not throw far fewer INT in 2023.

Dak clearly had too much belief in that receiving corps and that is probably why Gallup has been demoted and Schultz has been allowed to walk for a paycut.
And not to use it as an excuse but I wonder how much the hand effected some of his decisions and throws? I remember when Russell Wilson came back he looked probably as bad or worse than Dak did from a similar injury.
 

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My Take on each of his Videos:
- Poor Route design and play even poorer that the WR stopped. 100% agree with Martz ON WR
- Only 2 places he could have really gone with that Coverage was 1. Shultz on the flat or 2. over the TOP to the middle right but that could have been a pic too. . Dak Forced that to CD. ON DAK.
- Terrible throw and very rushed by Dak on this one CB was sitting on the top of the route and just jumped the ball. ON DAK.
- Dak if Seam throw is the right throw makes it and just bounces off TE. but really he should have turned and went to 85 at bottom of the screen running the cul while the CB was bailing out. there was 10 yards to gain there. Again Dak making hasty Read and just going with 1 side of the field. ON DAK
- This play Dak throws in to Double Coverage and does not let the LONG developing play develop he rushes the throw thinking the SLT CB is going to drop to RB but instead the sinks and sandwitches the WR to get the INT. again only looking at 1 side of the Field and Rushed the throw. ON DAK
- Dak throwing ball Too early on the bootleg needed to take 1 more step outside and set his feet and throw the ball. he was Rushing again not letting play develop. ON DAK
- Dak climbing the pocket looking only at right side of the field decides to run up and throw across his body. he needed to tuck and run. looking at the way he pulls his legs out as guy is trying to tackle him he's still iffy on his ankle. ON DAK
- Dak drops back 85 comes across the field and like martz said starts up field so the ball is A. thrown behind and B. WR going up field before ball is there. i think this is on both WR and DAK poor throw but poor execution of the Route.
- Shultz should have stayed on Seam and going 9 route up the field to draw off CB so the slant could have happened underneath but again DAK only reading half of the field. ON SCHULTZ
- Schultz should have come back to the ball but again no looking to the right left side and why was everyone running 10 yards and turning around and stopping what is this PeeWee FB. ON SCHULTZ
- Terrible Route by the WR 13 on that one, he gets inside why not run the 9 route you have inside leverage no safty since he's occupied with others. not sure why Gallup went out where the CB was and he runs the route and INT. ON Gallup or Coaches
- Not sure why Gallup did not turn on the comeback on this one. actually never seen a route like that before he runs to top turns inside and then fades to the side line. should he have not turn outside to the sideline and looked back and caught the ball. that was Weird and on him. ON GALLUP
- under throw by Dak on the Seam route. should have Gone to the crossing outside WR after seam route cleared the area. ON DAK
- Dak zero'ed in on CD going inside did not even look outside to 85 going up the side line. ON DAK
- Schultz gets pushed up field when he should have gone shallow inside underneath. ON WR SCHULTZ
- WR should have flattened out on the 40 and crossed the field. but did not and honestly if he did it would have been overthrown. ON DAK.
- Dak gets some pressure and moves up to throw the ball good read on the side of the field but should have gone over the top to Gallup on the sideline. ON DAK

Total:
ON WR = 6
ON DAK = 10

Something i've noticed most of these Play's Martz is choosing it looks like Dak is only reading 1 side of the field or zeroing in on a hot receiver and not going through progressions. Im hoping that the Change in scheme of the Routes will allow Dak to read whole field and not lock on to 1 side like im seeing. also hoping that the route tree changes will stop the weird routes and pauses and round offs.

all in all will be interesting to see the offense in TC.
You highlighted what Martz actually said. In no way did he make excuses for Dak’s poor decisions. He honestly blamed Dak when it was Dak’s fault.
 

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What I get from this is Martz saying Dak made some throws he had no business throwing.

But also some of daks ints are alot of bad route running. Singles in on Brown and Gallup. But is also very critical of the playcalling. Even says idk why you would run that play during the video.

Gallups issues just looks like he couldn't plant to cut or come back on routes. Having to curve routes allowing dbs to undercut his routes for easy ints. Brown just isn't good enough to have the role he had last yr.

That first int that dak threw vs the niners Martz actually says it's on Gallup, as the throw looks like a comeback but Gallup just stops and the cb cuts his route. He says dak throws it late but says if Gallup just finishes the route he catches it or it's a incomplete but not a int.

Interesting the way he breaks down and points out, if you look where dak places balls where routes should be, but Gallup and brown ran bad comeback routes regularly. That's weird because that's moores go to pass route. He's the OC how come he wasn't grilling the wrs on comeback routes?

When a coach breaks it down, you can see just how bad moores game planning was.
All we have to do to see how lacking Moore was as an OC was the fact that he featured Zeke in the run game over Pollard.

That right there says it all.
 

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i.e. Kellen promoted before he was ready. Chargers get to inherit the experience, if he can instill any discipline or respect.
The key take-away from the Martz analysis is that BOTH the QB and the Receivers were playing undisciplined football. It doesn't matter how ingenious your scheme is if the players don't have the discipline to implement the scheme. What I got out of watching the Martz analysis is that the coach had not instilled discipline. Since McCarthy wasn't running the offense, the responsibility to instill discipline was Kellen Moore's job.

I thought Martz was exposing Moore - not necessarily for have a bad scheme, although there was some criticism of the scheme also, but mostly for allowing his players to be so undisciplined in how they played. This criticism hit both Dak and his receiver corps. There are a lot of young coaches who are enamored with their own creativity and neglect the need to instill discipline. The one common theme among great NFL head coaches is that they are disciplinarians. They enforce discipline.

And herein lies the problem with the Cowboys' culture. Will Jerry Jones allow his head coach to be the disciplinarian he needs to be, or will he continue to allow the players to come to him and complain, and then overrule the Head Coach?

Wade Phillips famously wanted to enforce rules, but Jerry wouldn't allow him to do so. Garrett went along with Jerry and lasted a long time, but never won anything. Both Jimmy and Parcells were allowed the freedom to discipline players, but Jimmy got fed up with Jerry, and in the end, after the Terrell Owens signing, so did Parcells. Switzer was undisciplined, but the culture established by Jimmy had trained the players, and Troy Aikman became the enforcer. But he resented having to play the enforcer, when the coach should bear that responsibility. Gailey tried to establish discipline on an undisciplined team, and was shown the door. And Campo was just a lackey to get them through Salary Cap hell.

So the bottom line is this: Will Jerry allow McCarthy to become the enforcer he needs to be to turn this team into a winner? If he gives McCarthy the freedom, the Cowboys have a chance. If he doesn't, then McCarthy will fail, and so will Dak. You can blame Dak, or blame the receivers, or (like me) blame both. But ultimately, Jerry is at fault for allowing a culture where players can undermine the authority of the Head Coach. Until that changes, everything else is just shadows and dust.
 

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Note how Martz aimed at Gallup and his horrid route running miscues ... ironically that's not just this past year.

He's long been like this... He's half -azzed and short circuited several routes and and causes several INTs ...
 

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Amazing that he never did anything or even became a head coach again after the Rams dumped him.
Martz has a difficult personality.. he's bumped heads with coaches and organizations .. and he's admitted himself that he's not easy to get along with.

And his offensive philosophy such as the TE not being a feature piece in his offense, does not mince well with organizations.

He's not for everybody.
 

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I didn’t listen to it. Did he also analyze the countless passes that could have been interceptions but weren’t? If not it’s meaningless.
Nobody analyzes dropped interceptions from defensive backs and linebackers. There's a reason why they play defense and not offense.
 

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Nobody analyzes dropped interceptions from defensive backs and linebackers. There's a reason why they play defense and not offense.
Everyone does every week, but I’m not sure what that has dodowith the discussion in this thread
 
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