Mike Martz: Deep Dive Analysis of Dak's Ints This Year

[CowboysFaninHouston]

The key take-away from the Martz analysis is that BOTH the QB and the Receivers were playing undisciplined football. It doesn't matter how ingenious your scheme is if the players don't have the discipline to implement the scheme. What I got out of watching the Martz analysis is that the coach had not instilled discipline. Since McCarthy wasn't running the offense, the responsibility to instill discipline was Kellen Moore's job.

I thought Martz was exposing Moore - not necessarily for have a bad scheme, although there was some criticism of the scheme also, but mostly for allowing his players to be so undisciplined in how they played. This criticism hit both Dak and his receiver corps. There are a lot of young coaches who are enamored with their own creativity and neglect the need to instill discipline. The one common theme among great NFL head coaches is that they are disciplinarians. They enforce discipline.

And herein lies the problem with the Cowboys' culture. Will Jerry Jones allow his head coach to be the disciplinarian he needs to be, or will he continue to allow the players to come to him and complain, and then overrule the Head Coach?

Wade Phillips famously wanted to enforce rules, but Jerry wouldn't allow him to do so. Garrett went along with Jerry and lasted a long time, but never won anything. Both Jimmy and Parcells were allowed the freedom to discipline players, but Jimmy got fed up with Jerry, and in the end, after the Terrell Owens signing, so did Parcells. Switzer was undisciplined, but the culture established by Jimmy had trained the players, and Troy Aikman became the enforcer. But he resented having to play the enforcer, when the coach should bear that responsibility. Gailey tried to establish discipline on an undisciplined team, and was shown the door. And Campo was just a lackey to get them through Salary Cap hell.

So the bottom line is this: Will Jerry allow McCarthy to become the enforcer he needs to be to turn this team into a winner? If he gives McCarthy the freedom, the Cowboys have a chance. If he doesn't, then McCarthy will fail, and so will Dak. You can blame Dak, or blame the receivers, or (like me) blame both. But ultimately, Jerry is at fault for allowing a culture where players can undermine the authority of the Head Coach. Until that changes, everything else is just shadows and dust.

been saying this about moore for four years... since he was handed the OC job.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Nobody analyzes dropped interceptions from defensive backs and linebackers. There's a reason why they play defense and not offense.

ask @khiladi ........he keeps almost intercepted stat line somewhere in his spreadsheets.

I asked him to add almost receptions too

 

[blueblood70]

I mean the title of the article is common sense.
Dak has been in the league a long time and never shown any issue with INT. Now after 1 season of high INT it really doesn't require a major dissection,

It would be shocking if Dak did not throw far fewer INT in 2023.

Dak clearly had too much belief in that receiving corps and that is probably why Gallup has been demoted and Schultz has been allowed to walk for a paycut.

100%

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

So almost interceptions LOL

Are there almost Receptions too?

I think the play dak threw two excactly identical plays....1st one almost interception. 2nd one of course was.
If that isnt a stat....it should be. Both defense and qb should be held accountable.
I know....what about wrong routes and such. Qb is statted for any inteception...this example should be no different. Its a record of something that went wrong in the play...and shouldnt just disappear...the defense missed opportunity included.
Aint just dak. All of them.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Everyone does every week, but I’m not sure what that has dodowith the discussion in this thread

What does “countless passes dropped” have to do with anything? Is that even a stat lol?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

ask @khiladi ........he keeps almost intercepted stat line somewhere in his spreadsheets.

I asked him to add almost receptions too

That guy man….he comes to a Dak discussion with essays and research and then you hear it and be like “huh”? I’ve caught him numerous times having false stats lol.

 

[Ken]

I didn’t listen to it. Did he also analyze the countless passes that could have been interceptions but weren’t? If not it’s meaningless.

Countless? Hardly.

And no he didn't.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I think the play dak threw two excactly identical plays....1st one almost interception. 2nd one of course was.
If that isnt a stat....it should be. Both defense and qb should be held accountable.
I know....what about wrong routes and such. Qb is statted for any inteception...this example should be no different. Its a record of something that went wrong in the play...and shouldnt just disappear...the defense missed opportunity included.
Aint just dak. All of them.

I think this is over analyzation by the fans....in the end. the ball is intercepted. subsequently, the coaches and players need to review, study and figure out what went wrong. I am sure the almost interceptions exist for all QBs, although some fanzone members are making it a strictly Dak issue. all WRs run wrong routes, make bad plays, etc. its not all QB, its not all WR.

but I fully get the Dak obsession here. its nothing new

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

That guy man….he comes to a Dak discussion with essays and research and then you hear it and be like “huh”? I’ve caught him numerous times having false stats lol.

his tendency is to take one singel play, in a single game and make generalizations. if I did that, Brady could be considered one of the worst QBs ever. every QB makes mistakes. its inevitable. it happens. its a matter of making more good plays than bad ones. but given their agenda, if Dak is not perfect, then they are going to find fault and generalize. Dak will throw interceptions. he will make mistakes. its inevitable. they will post negative comments. over generalize. exagerate. its inevitable.

 

[Jarntt]

What does “countless passes dropped” have to do with anything? Is that even a stat lol?

One I didn't say passes dropped and two I didn't say it's a stat. Three, if you don't have the ability to understand how analyzing just the interceptions and using the ones that "weren't his fault" in some agenda to say Dak was better than perceived and not the passes thrown that should have/could have been interceptions but weren't for whatever reason is meaningful, then you aren't really going to understand much else on the topic...

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I think this is over analyzation by the fans....in the end. the ball is intercepted. subsequently, the coaches and players need to review, study and figure out what went wrong. I am sure the almost interceptions exist for all QBs, although some fanzone members are making it a strictly Dak issue. all WRs run wrong routes, make bad plays, etc. its not all QB, its not all WR.

but I fully get the Dak obsession here. its nothing new

Did you even read what i wrote?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Did you even read what i wrote?

yes. still the same. we over analyze every throw and make too many generalizations and my comment about expecting perfection stands. I have said it over and over, Dak is not elite. he will make mistakes and some make you scratch your head. all of these over 15 interceptions. many of which even dak bashers agree weren't his fault

 

[khiladi]

Nobody bothers about DB dropped INT unless it’s Rush’s “almost” interceptions to make Dak look better against a practice squad QB or Diggs fault for the SF loss to absolve Dak for the loss…

 

[khiladi]

I had issue with Warners initial analysis bc it failed to see things like Martz pointed out. That was in the 2021 season.

He later (last year) started to point out wr/scheme issues. It came after he was getting accused of hating Dak.

I never wavered an dpointed these things out because they were egregious.

No, you had issues with Warner because he called out your boy Dak and to this day, most of his criticism pointed to Dak. Kurt was always fair in his criticisms and included certain plays here and there, whether in 2021 or 2022 that pointed to certain concepts. You just tried to flip it based upon one film review where he spent a little more time on certain concepts, but still pointed out Dak was to blame, including when he threw to the pick aimed at Lamb and Blake Jarwin in the red zone. Even though he pointed out the concept he was clear Dak should not have thrown it.

Then you started acting like Warner was on your side and should be the OC here.

 

[khiladi]

Yes, it looks like there was bad play design on a couple of those, and yes WRs took a few of those plays off, but go back and watch.

On several of those 1 or 2 other receivers were running wide open. I also think some receivers took the play off because they were thinking ‘I’m covered. Dak would be an idiot to throw it here’, and he did.

Frankly, I also think Daks receivers get inaccuracy fatigue. They get so tired of sailed or dirt balls, jumping and diving, that it just impacts morale and ultimately effort. I think Beasley had it and Cooper had it. Yes, these guys are pros but they are also human, as is Dak.

I hope everyone gets better (including playcalling) next year and Dak plays out of his mind. Time will tell.

Yep, all you got to do in reality is look at the other OPTIONS on these plays and see guys running open. This is the case with Dak.

You can’t blame Moore if the QB sucks at going through his progressions he stares down his early reads.

 

[khiladi]

I didn’t even bother to watch MM analysis outside the first play, enough to know his homers think he absolved Dak, in reality when he didn’t. You can blame Gallup all you want, but Dak had plenty of better options than a WR blanketed in coverage which even MM said was delivered late,

And according to MM, the best possible outside of a play where Gallup supposedly didn’t do his job is not an INT, but still a stupid and late throw.

So even if we accept MM explanation regarding what Gallup should have done, the most it tells us, is Dak’s poop stinks, but Gallup’s sticks more. Congratulations if you are a Dak fanboy and think that’s a win.

It’s like when I’ve gone through other film breakdowns of Dak and pointed out how none of them actually absolve Dak, but all his fanboys are doing is latching on to, “well this guy also crapped the bad” while another WR is running wide open on the same side that Dak decides not to throw it to him, but throw it to the guy whose blanketed, but his foot was facing the wrong angle when he made the cut, and if he didn’t do that, the DB wouldn’t have intercepted the ball, but he’d still tip it.

 

[Ken]

No, you had issues with Warner because he called out your boy Dak and to this day, most of his criticism pointed to Dak. Kurt was always fair in his criticisms and included certain plays here and there, whether in 2021 or 2022 that pointed to certain concepts. You just tried to flip it based upon one film review where he spent a little more time on certain concepts, but still pointed out Dak was to blame, including when he threw to the pick aimed at Lamb and Blake Jarwin in the red zone. Even though he pointed out the concept he was clear Dak should not have thrown it.

Then you started acting like Warner was on your side and should be the OC here.

Uh no.

Why you are arguing with me based on what I said, is hillarious. I know what I said and I know what my analysis was in 2021. I know where and when i disagreed with Kurt.

If you think otherwise, feel free to go back and prove me wrong.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Nobody bothers about DB dropped INT unless it’s Rush’s “almost” interceptions to make Dak look better against a practice squad QB or Diggs fault for the SF loss to absolve Dak for the loss…

you and your almost interceptions....too hilarious. you are not going to give up the non-sense are you?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I didn’t even bother to watch MM analysis outside the first play, enough to know his homers think he absolved Dak, in reality when he didn’t. You can blame Gallup all you want, but Dak had plenty of better options than a WR blanketed in coverage which even MM said was delivered late,

And according to MM, the best possible outside of a play where Gallup supposedly didn’t do his job is not an INT, but still a stupid and late throw.

So even if we accept MM explanation regarding what Gallup should have done, the most it tells us, is Dak’s poop stinks, but Gallup’s sticks more. Congratulations if you are a Dak fanboy and think that’s a win.

It’s like when I’ve gone through other film breakdowns of Dak and pointed out how none of them actually absolve Dak, but all his fanboys are doing is latching on to, “well this guy also crapped the bad” while another WR is running wide open on the same side that Dak decides not to throw it to him, but throw it to the guy whose blanketed, but his foot was facing the wrong angle when he made the cut, and if he didn’t do that, the DB wouldn’t have intercepted the ball, but he’d still tip it.

so somebody didn't just trash incessently on Dak and he is a homer....wow. just wow.

Martz poop knows more about football than you ever learn in your lifetime...yet here we are. a superbowl winning former NFL headcoach is trash...got it.

and you wonder why you have negative credibility on this board.

how did Dalton work out for you? remember you were all in on Dalton and how he was going to take dallas to the next level. I wonder what happened?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Yep, all you got to do in reality is look at the other OPTIONS on these plays and see guys running open. This is the case with Dak.

You can’t blame Moore if the QB sucks at going through his progressions he stares down his early reads.

ok, Dak is not elite. he will make mistakes.

lets dump dak. let get somebody better. who you got? dalton?