Mike Martz Talks Dak, Lamar,McCarty, Kellen, offense changes

khiladi said:
LOL..

Looks like Jon Kitna told his old coach to go out there and defend his buddy Dak from all the criticism he’s getting..

I love how Dak being this all-world passer is the NORM, when his norm since 2019 has been nothing but fumbles and INTs and horrible stretches of offensive play and prior to Moore coming, it was a conservative check-down bus driver.

Dak had never even thrown over 40 TDs and he only came close when he was playing in 17 games and the Eagles had their third stringers in and they kept Dak in until the third quarter with all his first string team. And then he folded like a cheap suit once again when he played the Niners.
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I guess Kitna got to his new qb coach as well...lol

https://omny.fm/shows/shan-and-rj/below-the-belt-8
 
Dre11 said:
Lol....what a gem that Khlid is. Maybe I should also post an interview of his new qb coach under Tom House talking about Dak as well . I guess Kitna got to him too...lol
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Man he’s by far the most committed yet clueless one of the bunch. He consistently posts misinformation and I use to think he did it on purpose….now im afraid he’s just not well.
 

QB Guru John Beck on Dak Prescott’s Ability​

This is from the Rich Eisen show. He tried to speak to a narrative point, and even though the dude TOLD him to his face, Eisen still tried to get him​

to say Dak is a turnover machine and dude just shot him down.That's a Dak hater for you, No matter what you saw, they try to convince you that you saw something else. I'm not calling Rich a Dak Hater, He loathes the Cowboys
 
GINeric said:
Martz proved two main things that I've been saying for the longest.

1. Kellen Moore wasn't intelligent enough. His in-game awareness to situational football was trash.

2. He silenced all the low IQ Dak hating cowards on the planet who tried to place all blame on Dak for losses. Now I'm ready to hear one of the low IQ cowardly crew who said Dak is a below average quarterback to sit here and tell me they know more about evaluating and coaching quarterback talent at the NFL level than Martz.


I'll wait....
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I know more than martz !! lol
martz was always over rated, had a great team and qb and no rings.
 
Dre11 said:
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I guess Kitna got to his new qb coach as well...lol

https://omny.fm/shows/shan-and-rj/below-the-belt-8
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LOL.. Dak has been working with Beck in the off-season for YEARS. Why would Beck bash a client that pays him very well bash him?

He’s the guy that taught Dak this:
 
DandyDon52 said:
I know more than martz !! lol
martz was always over rated, had a great team and qb and no rings.
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Jon Kitna basically had his career numbers statistically under Mike Martz. I wouldn’t be surprised, considering Dak and Kitna are buddies and Kitna used to “coach” Dak, that he’s also gotten him in touch with Mike Martz over the years.

It’s also comical because MM is saying that they need to run better, when that’s what he’s been criticized his whole time as a coach.

"I think the world of him, and he knows how to get the most out of his talent. People kind of knock Mike for not being balanced offensively. Well, when things get crazy in a game and you're down by 14 points, 21 points, the play-calling does get lopsided because he knows the passing game can get you back in it."
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Kitna was throwing close to 600 times a game in 2006-2007 and he had a higher INT to TD ratio both years. 600 times close to 20 years ago..

And this is a Coryell offense and Marta’s offense had Kitna getting sacked a league leading 63 and 51 times respectively. So for him to sit there are claim MOORe had a lot of moving parts and tried to take a subtle jab at the OL, even though Dak was sacked like 24 times off the top of my head is just disingenuous.


https://football.realgm.com/wiretap-amp/7151/Jon-Kitna-I-Think-The-World-Of-Mike-Martz
 
I have always frowned on posts which pat themselves on the back for having an idea long before it was ever being uttered here.

But, if you look back at the post 9ers game, and even before that by a few games at the end of last season, you will see what Martz is saying has been in post after post I have made.
While a great number of people assign blame to one player, the truth is the offense was a hot mess before the season started. Primarily because of the GM, who decided to move Cooper along, and have Cee Dee and a cast of crap sandwiches playing behind him.

Gallup was healing from an injury late the previous season. And he seems to be giving less effort since he signed a contract for more money. I question him now, and until he shows he is interested in winning, he is just a guy to me. Prove me wrong, Michael.

Then the same GM made one right move in Tyler Smith, and then settled with Tyron still seen as an answer, and no exit strategy if things went south. Steele went down and Dallas hopped a southbound train ever since.

When you look at the 9ers game you see when the running game went to the locker room the offense was essentially non-existent, and the defense held on for dear life.
You saw the same paradigm when the 9ers lost Kid Cool, their QB, against the Eagles and they couldn't score. Same dynamics. Unbalanced offense against a top flight defense.

So allow me this moment to state that I have been calling this for a while. And if the brain trust do not pull their heads out of their butts and draft a stud guard very early and a WR, Dallas will be in the same zip code they were in at the end of the year, because Jerry is relying on Tyron and an injured Steele to come back early, and people who shouldn't even be back-ups on a pro team as projected starters on this offensive line.

So, yeah me for now wallowing in the mire of self aggrandizement.
 
Mike Martz was made into a genius, then showed he was exactly the opposite for the next many years.

No coach in NFL history has gotten more quarterbacks blown up in the pocket than this fool.

The league long since lost interest him.
 
When did Martz become the coach to quote?

When the Rams won the SB, they had the #1 D in the league and when that unwound they were over.

He had his WR's run curve patterns with a very accurate <2 second release Arena QB with the best combo RB in the league.

He gets credit where I do not see it due.
 
khiladi said:
Jon Kitna basically had his career numbers statistically under Mike Martz. I wouldn’t be surprised, considering Dak and Kitna are buddies and Kitna used to “coach” Dak, that he’s also gotten him in touch with Mike Martz over the years.

It’s also comical because MM is saying that they need to run better, when that’s what he’s been criticized his whole time as a coach.



Kitna was throwing close to 600 times a game in 2006-2007 and he had a higher INT to TD ratio both years. 600 times close to 20 years ago..

And this is a Coryell offense and Marta’s offense had Kitna getting sacked a league leading 63 and 51 times respectively. So for him to sit there are claim MOORe had a lot of moving parts and tried to take a subtle jab at the OL, even though Dak was sacked like 24 times off the top of my head is just disingenuous.


https://football.realgm.com/wiretap-amp/7151/Jon-Kitna-I-Think-The-World-Of-Mike-Martz
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Lol.....cool story...lol
 
GINeric said:
So you know more than a professional NFL coach with decades of experience. Put the pipe down son...
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the poster dared someone to say that, so I did lol.
I dont know more than martz, I just think he is over rated. He also didnt want to have kurt warner as the starting qb, he thought of warner
as backup qb only.

He had one of the best group of offensive players ever, and the team went downhill as soon as he took over from vermiel.
He looked good as the OC, because they had so much talent, and one of the best qb's to ever play.

later after he failed as HC, he was OC again, but without all that talent, he was just avg to below avg.
 
DandyDon52 said:
the poster dared someone to say that, so I did lol.
I dont know more than martz, I just think he is over rated. He also didnt want to have kurt warner as the starting qb, he thought of warner
as backup qb only.

He had one of the best group of offensive players ever, and the team went downhill as soon as he took over from vermiel.
He looked good as the OC, because they had so much talent, and one of the best qb's to ever play.

later after he failed as HC, he was OC again, but without all that talent, he was just avg to below avg.
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So you say the same about Norv? Never a good HC. Martz went to the superbowl as HC.
 
Dre11 said:
So you say the same about Norv? Never a good HC. Martz went to the superbowl as HC.
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Well Norv was a good OC, but not suited for the HC job. He found that out. Our dc wannstet, was a good dc, but not suited for the HC job.

Martz didnt build that SB team, it was imo like when jimmy built the team and then switzer won a SB with it.
Martz was ok OC, but like many the team can make them look better than they are.
 
I don't really care if Martz is over rated, his take on each play seemed reasonable.
 
GINeric said:
Who's more qualified to speak on, evaluate NFL quarterbacks and the functioning of the offense and its moving parts..... Cowherd or Martz?

Which one of those guys credibility holds the most weight in NFL quarterbacking? Exactly... so your Cowherd video means what again?
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The same Cowherd that said Wentz was the best qb in the division going into last season?
 
GINeric said:
You think Martz would say something semi negative about Christ the Almighty???

Who WOULDN'T turn on someone who was semi negative of Christ??? What are you a devil worshipper or something??? You gotta do better in life kid...
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