Mike McCarthy's upcoming decision

[atlantacowboy]

Marquee franchise? You mean Jerry Jones' Dallas Cowboys where all coaches are set up to fail?

Who has been more successful than Mike since Jerry ran Jimmy out of here to control everything?

Define "success". None of them have taken the team beyond the divisional round of the playoffs. Just b/c he's the best of a mediocre bunch is no reason to retain his services. He should have been fired after the GB playoff debacle.

 

[acr731]

He should have been fired after the GB playoff debacle.

Yes, he should have been fired. But whatever Jerry's reason was for retaining him could end up being the same reason why he extends him in January. The reason? Only Jerry knows the answer to that

 

[Risen Star]

Jerry makes it this way. I'd like to move on from McCarthy, not because he's not a very good head coach but because he's not the solution in Dallas. I'd like to replace him with some mythical head coach who can come in here and change Jerry but that person doesn't exist.

This is why I have no energy to waste on the McCarthy talk. He's as good as it's going to get until this owner is either dead or so diminished mentally that he just physically can't show up anymore.

McCarthy's done a pretty good job in a very bad situation. I think the most valid criticism you can have of him is some of his decisions with his staff. Nolan was horrible. Moving on from Kellen Moore and handing the offense to Schottenheimer was a downgrade. They're not doing a bad job with the offense. It lacks talent. They shouldn't be a top offense right now but Moore consistently overachieved with what he had. These guys aren't overachieving.

There's really nowhere to go. No avenue to change anything. A contract extension for McCarthy means 4 or more years of a coach Jerry is comfortable with. Bringing in a new coach means the exact same thing.

 

[Risen Star]

Define "success". None of them have taken the team beyond the divisional round of the playoffs. Just b/c he's the best of a mediocre bunch is no reason to retain his services. He should have been fired after the GB playoff debacle.

And I'd argue when he won 12 games three years in a row in this cancerous situation where he lacks any authority to act as a real head coach he should have been given a lifetime contract and a statue at the stadium.

 

[big dog cowboy]

My question is…if McCarthy is offered to stay, will he agree to stay?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

For most of this season I thought like many Cowboys fans that Mike McCarthy‘s tenure in Dallas was over either during the season or more likely, at season’s end. Now after what has transpired on the field plus the exit of Bill Belechick from the NFL stage, I’m thinking it is more likely Jerry tries to keep Big Mac in Big D.

Why is Jerry likely choosing to try and extend McCarthy? Because he probably knows the number of talented NFL coaches wanting to come to Dallas as the next sacrificial lamb on the Jones failure altar is dwindling like a flower in the Texas heat. The luster on the star ain’t what is used to be.

Sure, the Star is worth a lot of money but any self respecting HC who wants what all great NFL coaches have - getting to choose their own assistants, having full control of the locker room and discipline, having control of the message to the media, and having the final say with player usage and playing time is not happening. In Dallas, those powers reside in the owners box.

Jerry’s recent positive comments about both McCarthy and DC Mike Zimmer give plenty of room for the possibility that Big Mac and Zimmer along with some other assistants will be re-upped with new contract offers.

The question is will Mike McCarthy want to come back? He will probably have at least three options:

• Stay in Dallas after given a 2-3 year contract extension.
• Take another HC job like in New Orleans where he has ties from his early days as an assistant coach.
• Retire. He will be 62 next season, so retiring is not out of the question.

If I was Mike McCarthy, there is no way I’m coming back to this situation. He’s had 5 seasons to try and bring Dallas back to at least a conference championship game and has failed. Winning one wild card game in 5 years is not what he was hired to do. And he’s seen how his bosses have no problem throwing entire seasons away with no consequences other than to fire those under them,

Big Mac has had 5 years to watch up close and personal what a challenge it is to try and coach a professional football team where the owner is also the president, GM and face of the franchise. IMO he would be crazy to stay here.

Decisions will have be made soon. What will they be?

first, Jerry doesn't care about actual talented coaches, some of whom already set a bar that cowboys don't meet.
Jerry cares about perception of the fans about a coach and that is one of the two primary drivers of his decision and secondly the cost of that Coach (you know there is coaches dead money) and how he can spin things to create hope.
and it all depends on these last 3 games. fans are giddy because we beat two bad teams and wins are always good.
lets see how cowboys look and how prepared or inept they look in the last three games and what is the temprature of the fans. then if Jerry feels the heat again, he will make a coaching change.
He is also in a rock and a hard place. he may not want to give out a 4 or 5 year contract, since this coaching staff has been on the hot seat the past couple of years. given Jerry's penchant not wanting coaches dead money, does he feel he can spin it and keep it going for 4 or 5 years. I doubt if MM and the staff would come back on a 1 or 2 year contract.

so I am with you, I don't think MM wants to come back to the nut house.

IMHO, Kellen Moore might be his top choice. a familiar face, a guy jerry feels he discovered and comfort level with Dak. and probably the right price.

 

[Aikmaniac]

There can't be any real optimism with this front office in place. I am completely in the show-me, apathetic phase of fandom.

It's not like Stephen is the light at the end of the tunnel.

 

[RonWashington]

Jerry loves fans like you. You'd be here another 30 years blaming head coaches for the sins of the owner.

The coach takes the job he’s the one who gets hired and fired . The owner not going to fire himself maybe you haven’t figured that out yet .

 

[acr731]

It's not like Stephen is the light at the end of the tunnel.

Nope, he's the guano on the floor of a bat cave

 

[CCBoy]

Still, when we view this season in its total context, the Cowboys have made huge strides with regards to penalties. If they manage to finish this season with a positive net penalty number, it’ll be a first under McCarthy. It would also be the first time the Cowboys have done so since the 2017 season. That accomplishment should not go unnoticed.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...arolina-panthers-game-mike-mccarthy-net-yards

 

[RonWashington]

Nope, he's the guano on the floor of a bat cave

 

[Carson]

I am not against bringing back mccarthy.

I am against bringing him back, not upgrading the roster and coaching staff.

 

[RonWashington]

Stephen is not the answer to the quiz . New England Arizona Las Vegas all have Hunter sons working the store and all three clubs are miles and miles away from a SB trophy and the Tracy Wolfson good vibes interview .

 

[RonWashington]

I am not against bringing back mccarthy.

I am against bringing him back, not upgrading the roster and coaching staff.

WR coach & OL coach come to mind where change is needed . Fassel is good for laughs you never know when ST comes on the scene what might happen .

 

[atlantacowboy]

And I'd argue when he won 12 games three years in a row in this cancerous situation where he lacks any authority to act as a real head coach he should have been given a lifetime contract and a statue at the stadium.

Well, Jason garret won more games than Jimmy Johnson. Maybe he should be the one in the ROH since we are honoring regular season glory.

 

[blueblood70]

Other people may see similar things, but Cell is the league but here’s the caveat I’m putting conditions on it you act like Mike McCarthy has a chance and I think the league has seen what he’s doing. He’s not gonna have that many suitors either. He’s already here and he was offered a job. I’m saying he would take it, but I’m not offering him the job unless he agrees to let go with the office of coordinator duties hire a new offensive coordinator, and he offered to blind coach is a new office of assistance to help out younger. You know a little bit more up-to-date help tweak this off and sound because this Texas coast often sucks and he’s slow. It takes him eight or nine games in order to figure out who he should be using and what packages I mean, you act like this dude is being hamstrung by Jerry and i’m saying he’s a bigger part of the problem he waits half a season to decide to use some of our talent like Turpin and Rico I mean he literally doesn’t see that he needs to go to his office of line coach, and re-align the office of line with the better players, the best five and he doesn’t do it. He never does anything until it’s too late. He literally is late to react you are say that’s dairy. They wait till it’s too late. Then they adjust and then they over adjust.

They are perfect for each other, but let’s stop acting like Mike McCarthy being held back his offensive play, calling his game plans endgame adjustments his management. It is all average to below average at times. It’s been very frustrating watching this guy utilize our talent in the wrong way at the wrong times of the game bringing in the wrong people and I still blame him for Zeke you Elliott being here because he used Hunter and Rico properly last year. I don’t think Sheree would’ve saw the need to bring back Zeke.

oh, and let’s be clear if everyone’s always listening to all these interviews and quoting things, mike McCarthy himself says he has way more power here on roster changes that he had anywhere else he’s ever been as a coach so stop acting like Jerry’s meddling he slowly is responsible for the game plans and the active players on game day and how to use and situation of football and right now he’s failing at that. He waited until it was too late this year to start getting creative because he was forced to be creative. How about he be created with the run game and Turpin and misdirection in motion whenever we have a healthy team to start the year with our healthy quarterback and see the need when the rookie struggling to put Tyler Smith at left tackle and then put bass at left guard and then when he sees other guys struggling, we could’ve been using this office of lineman a long time ago. He did this last year it took him too long to realize the problems and he did it again this year takes a half a season to decide. Oh this might be the right way to do something that’s on him stop blaming Jerry this is all on Mike McCarthy I I can’t stand. I keep hearing how Jerry medals too much and yeah, I hear the coach said he has more power than anywhere else and roster decisions and I think that it’s hilarious you keep saying he may not want to work for us most of us don’t want him back?

I think it’s hilarious that you don’t think there’s other coaching staff out there that would want to and have a high priority to come work for the Dallas Cowboys. You all are selling that part short if you say so I said there’s gonna be more opportunities for more coaches because it is the Dallas Cowboys and Jerry has nothing to do with it. Most of these problems that we have had is with the coaching staff. And yes Sheree picked the coaching staff but these coaches right now need to be held Accountable.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I'd love it if Mike left to go to the Saints, Jags, or Bears. Let him start over with a decent QB and an owner who doesn't force his broken pet projects on him and I think he'd do well. He'd get a fresh couple of years or so before the fanbase turned on him like they already have here.

The one problem could be if Mike, especially at his age, doesn't want to uproot and move and start over again. Plus these guys have the mentality of wanting to finish what they've started. But it would still be better for the last years of his career if he got out of here.

The funny plot twist would be if Jerry went super cheap and offered him less than those other franchises did, and Mike took the highest bid. Would serve Jerry right, although he'd sell it as a "mutual parting" and would just hire Kellen or whoever else would take Zimmer, and continue on his merry way.

 

[Sheepherder]

Unfortunately it doesn't matter because the ownership (root of all the problems) won't change. Bringing in a better coach only helps if that coach also brings in his own staff, has a big say in personal and how things run. None of that really happens under jerry

I hope he walks. And it's not because I don't like him but because the 2 jackasses won't let him do his job.

 

[NDGAEDE]

If the decision rests with Mike, he'll stay. I don't think he'd get another HC job, even though he's succeeded here, because I think teams are looking to younger head coaches now. Another 2 years in the bank is great for his eventual retirement.

 

[fivetwos]

For most of this season I thought like many Cowboys fans that Mike McCarthy‘s tenure in Dallas was over either during the season or more likely, at season’s end. Now after what has transpired on the field plus the exit of Bill Belechick from the NFL stage, I’m thinking it is more likely Jerry tries to keep Big Mac in Big D.

Why is Jerry likely choosing to try and extend McCarthy? Because he probably knows the number of talented NFL coaches wanting to come to Dallas as the next sacrificial lamb on the Jones failure altar is dwindling like a flower in the Texas heat. The luster on the star ain’t what is used to be.

Sure, the Star is worth a lot of money but any self respecting HC who wants what all great NFL coaches have - getting to choose their own assistants, having full control of the locker room and discipline, having control of the message to the media, and having the final say with player usage and playing time is not happening. In Dallas, those powers reside in the owners box.

Jerry’s recent positive comments about both McCarthy and DC Mike Zimmer give plenty of room for the possibility that Big Mac and Zimmer along with some other assistants will be re-upped with new contract offers.

The question is will Mike McCarthy want to come back? He will probably have at least three options:

• Stay in Dallas after given a 2-3 year contract extension.
• Take another HC job like in New Orleans where he has ties from his early days as an assistant coach.
• Retire. He will be 62 next season, so retiring is not out of the question.

If I was Mike McCarthy, there is no way I’m coming back to this situation. He’s had 5 seasons to try and bring Dallas back to at least a conference championship game and has failed. Winning one wild card game in 5 years is not what he was hired to do. And he’s seen how his bosses have no problem throwing entire seasons away with no consequences other than to fire those under them,

Big Mac has had 5 years to watch up close and personal what a challenge it is to try and coach a professional football team where the owner is also the president, GM and face of the franchise. IMO he would be crazy to stay here.

Decisions will have be made soon. What will they be?

While MM isn’t good enough to outcoach the Shanahans and LaFleurs of the league, he is smart enough to know he has little shot to win here over the next few years.

However it was always about the pay day for him, so it depends on if he feels as if he has enough cash vs how much he has had enough of Jerry’s act.

Not sure why you feel as if getting the NO job is a slam dunk. Interim aside, I can’t think of anyone that got a third shot.

I don’t see him not coaching for the rest of time, but it’s likely as an OC unless he extends here, which I consider to be very likely at this point.