Mike Singletary

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Bleu Star;1329775 said:
:D :D I'm a Libra and contrary to your popular belief, away from this board, that is who I am. This board has a way of bringing out the claws.

Oh christ I'm 10/5/63. Please tell me you aint on the fifth.:)
 

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That's how we libras roll!!!! Like I always tell the girls, don't mess with me or I'm weigh your azzzz!!!!!

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Txguy86;1327007 said:
For the first time in NFL History two African Amercian coaches are in the superbowl. They are enjoying great success.

Oh my god, this is what we've come to? I knew the NFL was a copy-cat league, but now we consider race when trying to find the best candidate? If anyone ever said "white coaches have won most super bowls...they are enjoying great success" they'd torn apart. The only reason skin color is relevant is to show racists that anyone of any color sould have the opportunity to coach ... that's it, nothing more.
 

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Txguy86;1326927 said:
Mike Ditka explained on cold pizza that he might be a pretty good fit for the cowboys.

Not to be picky, but what has Singletary done to warrant a head coaching job, much less in the NFL with the Dallas Cowboys? Regardless of having to deal with Jerry (which isn't nearly as bad as dealing with Al Davis or Arthur Blank), this is one of the most sought after jobs in all of sports.

I honestly didn't even know that Singletary was coaching in any capacity in the NFL. Leave it to Ditka to push one of his guys.

I always enjoy when everyone in the media speculates on the next coach of the Dallas Cowboys. Rectal extraction is the modus operandi.
 

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step;1329947 said:
Oh my god, this is what we've come to? I knew the NFL was a copy-cat league, but now we consider race when trying to find the best candidate? If anyone ever said "white coaches have won most super bowls...they are enjoying great success" they'd torn apart. The only reason skin color is relevant is to show racists that anyone of any color sould have the opportunity to coach ... that's it, nothing more.

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you can't just substitute 'white' for 'black' or 'African-American' and use the same argument. These two groups have had two VERY different historical circumstances, one in which 'power' and 'resources' were denied to one of the groups while the other enjoyed access to them.

And in a sense and ironically, what i, and those who relate to what i'm saying, are arguing is just what the bolded sentence above states. White coaches have won NOT jus most but all super bowls and they have enjoyed great success while non-whites were excluded from the same opportunities, simply because they were non-white. It isn't a big deal because it has been the 'norm' for such a long time. That's why, for example, the first female Senator or Astronaut, is a big deal, particularly to women who have not enjoyed equal opportunity to participate in certain roles in our society.

I sure would like to live in a time where these types of categories do no matter, but reality is that now is not that time. If it was, nobody, and i mean nobody would be talking about this issue to begin with. We also shouldn't confuse what we as individuals feel with where society IS NOW. I can see most are very sincere when they say a person's color doesn't matter to them and everything would be nice and dandy if there were about 300 million americans who SINCERLY feel the same way but that is not reality.
 

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Hostile;1330243 said:
There's this game in 2 weeks, they call it the Super Bowl...you might have heard of it.

I thought that was a dish at Red Lobster.
 

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Avery;1330262 said:
I thought that was a dish at Red Lobster.
You could be right. I wouldn't know, I'm allergic to seafood and can't eat there.
 

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Hostile;1330265 said:
You could be right. I wouldn't know, I'm allergic to seafood and can't eat there.
My god what miserable allergy. You miss good stuff.
 

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Aikbach;1330276 said:
My god what miserable allergy. You miss good stuff.
Crab smells so good to me. Fish and lobster do not. I like the taste of shrimp but not the closing of my windpipe.

Bad allergy.
 

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Hostile;1330281 said:
Crab smells so good to me. Fish and lobster do not. I like the taste of shrimp but not the closing of my windpipe.

Bad allergy.

Ouch! I have a niece that's allergic to shellfish. I always feel so badly for her. We live near the water and there's a seafood restaurant practically on every corner. It is better to keep the windpipe open though. :)
 

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summerisfunner;1330512 said:
I don't anybody on this board had said they don't want a black coach. This dialogue we are having is about the media and some on this board recognizing the fact that we will have African-American coaches in the Super Bowl for the first time ever. For some it is an event worth recognizing as an accomplishment not just by Dungy and Lovie Smith, but as a society as a whole for a number of reasons. For more detail on this discussion please read some of the posts through out this thread. For others, it is simply two more coaches going to the Super Bowl. And what they are arguing is that we shouldn't make a big deal out of it because they say they believe it doesn't matter what a person's skin color is, only his character and quality as a coach.

While the latter's argument is a pretty straight forward one, it is however, a bit shortsighted and devoid of any kind of historical context. Even if we were to pretend that 'racism' is over (which it is not), and we are now without any biases (which we are not), we still can not ignore the cumulitative, both cultural and psycological, effect of hundereds of years of abuse, exploitation, and inhuman treatment that we, as a society, have inflicted on some groups.

All you have to do is go see some statistics on homelessness, crime, poverty, education, job security/advancement, etc... broken down by race/ethnicity and/or gender. This will show you why what we are talking about is a big deal to some of us. If nothing else, it provides a sign of hope to members of those disadvantage groups that our society is slowly but surely making progress toward a place where skin color and/or gender, indeed, isn't an indicator of intellegence, work ethic, etc....
 

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ethiostar;1330614 said:
I don't anybody on this board had said they don't want a black coach. This dialogue we are having is about the media and some on this board recognizing the fact that we will have African-American coaches in the Super Bowl for the first time ever. For some it is an event worth recognizing as an accomplishment not just by Dungy and Lovie Smith, but as a society as a whole for a number of reasons. For more detail on this discussion please read some of the posts through out this thread. For others, it is simply two more coaches going to the Super Bowl. And what they are arguing is that we shouldn't make a big deal out of it because they say they believe it doesn't matter what a person's skin color is, only his character and quality as a coach.

While the latter's argument is a pretty straight forward one, it is however, a bit shortsighted and devoid of any kind of historical context. Even if we were to pretend that 'racism' is over (which it is not), and we are now without any biases (which we are not), we still can not ignore the cumulitative, both cultural and psycological, effect of hundereds of years of abuse, exploitation, and inhuman treatment that we, as a society, have inflicted on some groups.

All you have to do is go see some statistics on homelessness, crime, poverty, education, job security/advancement, etc... broken down by race/ethnicity and/or gender. This will show you why what we are talking about is a big deal to some of us. If nothing else, it provides a sign of hope to members of those disadvantage groups that our society is slowly but surely making progress toward a place where skin color and/or gender, indeed, isn't an indicator of intellegence, work ethic, etc....

I'm applauding the guy for not getting into the race argument, what he said usually fosters interracial thinking, go for the guy who performs, no matter the color of his skin
 

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dragon_mikal;1326934 said:
I signed him in Madden. He is pretty good.

yeah, in my madden both of our rb have over 1000 yards and our receivers have over 1000 and our TE's have over 700 and everyone at least has 8 td's...ohh our defense all pro bowlers too, secondary everyone has like 6 picks, Ware has 19 sacks, Canty/spears combined for 28, Fergy even has 6. Bradie has 120 tackles, Roy has 110....but egh..its madden anything is possible
 
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