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Rowdy;1327713 said:
You DONT need proof. That's the whole point. Why should I be forcefed that? I don't even see skin color when watching football. Who says that blacks aren't as intelligent as any white person? That is ridiculous. Its like saying "Hey two blacks are coaching the SUPER BOWL! SEE SEE!! THEY ARE SMART AFTER ALL!"

Race is only huge because of those making a big deal by playing the race card. In the grand scheme of things, it is nice to see both of them coaching the big game, but it doesnt prove anything to me that a black is indeed smart. They always have been just as long as any white guy or other race for that matter. A man is a man no matter what his skin.

and thats why I used the word stereotype, at that a past stereotype.

stereotype, noun - an idea that many people have about a thing or a group and that may often be untrue.
 

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Rowdy;1327713 said:
You DONT need proof. That's the whole point. Why should I be forcefed that? I don't even see skin color when watching football. Who says that blacks aren't as intelligent as any white person? That is ridiculous. Its like saying "Hey two blacks are coaching the SUPER BOWL! SEE SEE!! THEY ARE SMART AFTER ALL!"

My problem here is that I don't see many people running around saying this...It's more along the lines of, 'hey, two black men are coaching in the superbowl!' You seem to be adding your own justification to the statement and as a result, your losing sight of the big picture. I've said it a thousand times in the last two minutes: it's history and history is always worth mentioning. Some people are trying to spin what this history means, yeah sure, but that doesn't, nor should it, preclude people from mentioning it
 

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Bleu Star;1327684 said:
Your post was spot on. I'm really trying to stay out of this whole race blah blah talk... However, history is history. I bares some mention that for the first time ever in the history of the NFL two black head coaches will take the field in the Super Bowl. That is quite an accomplishment which deserves some mention. Notice I said "some". I like the way Dungy and Smith both downplayed it last night. It's about the 53 guys that take the field. Let's keep it about that.

What is the big accomplishment ? Either a man can coach/lead men or he can't, no matter what color his skin.

The great accomplishment is that they led their team to a Super Bowl, not that they did it while wearing dark skin.

If you say otherwise, then you are insinuating that you doubted a black man could do it, which is ridiculous.

This is as ridiculous as saying a red-head can't play football.
 

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WV Cowboy;1327782 said:
What is the big accomplishment ? Either a man can coach/lead men or he can't, no matter what color his skin.

The great accomplishment is that they led their team to a Super Bowl, not that they did it while wearing dark skin.

If you say otherwise, then you are insinuating that you doubted a black man could do it, which is ridiculous.

This is as ridiculous as saying a red-head can't play football.

Couldn't have said it better.
 

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WV Cowboy;1327782 said:
What is the big accomplishment ? Either a man can coach/lead men or he can't, no matter what color his skin.

The great accomplishment is that they led their team to a Super Bowl, not that they did it while wearing dark skin.

If you say otherwise, then you are insinuating that you doubted a black man could do it, which is ridiculous.

This is as ridiculous as saying a red-head can't play football.

The great accomplishment is that it hasn't happened before.
 

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Bigoted idiotic comments aside, here's is what bothers me about Singletary.

He's currently LB coach coach for the 49ers, who are interviewing Dave Campo this week for their defensive coordinator. If Singletary was a great coach, why wouldn't they promote him to the position? Mike Nolan worked with him in Baltimore, he knows what he's about. They fired their previous DC in midseason, and didn't even name Singletary as interim.

If his name was John Doe assistant coach with the same resume, nobody would even be talking about him.
 

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InmanRoshi;1327819 said:
Bigoted idiotic comments aside, here's is what bothers me about Singletary.

He's currently LB coach coach for the 49ers, who are interviewing Dave Campo this week for their defensive coordinator. If Singletary was a great coach, why wouldn't they promote him to the position? Mike Nolan worked with him in Baltimore, he knows what he's about. They fired their previous DC in midseason, and didn't even name Singletary as interim.

If his name was John Doe assistant coach with the same resume, nobody would even be talking about him.

Good point.
 

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InmanRoshi;1327819 said:
Bigoted idiotic comments aside, here's is what bothers me about Singletary.

He's currently LB coach coach for the 49ers, who are interviewing Dave Campo this week for their defensive coordinator. If Singletary was a great coach, why wouldn't they promote him to the position? Mike Nolan worked with him in Baltimore, he knows what he's about. They fired their previous DC in midseason, and didn't even name Singletary as interim.

If his name was John Doe assistant coach with the same resume, nobody would even be talking about him.

This is a pretty insightful post IMO. You make a few very good points Rosh.
 

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Gaede;1327799 said:
The great accomplishment is that it hasn't happened before.

So what difference does that make then? If the first Asian-American won the ________ award or made a record, why bring up skin color?
 

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WV Cowboy;1327782 said:
What is the big accomplishment ? Either a man can coach/lead men or he can't, no matter what color his skin.

The great accomplishment is that they led their team to a Super Bowl, not that they did it while wearing dark skin.

If you say otherwise, then you are insinuating that you doubted a black man could do it, which is ridiculous.

This is as ridiculous as saying a red-head can't play football.

uhmm ok.

The first time Christpoher Columbus landed on Plymouth Rock no one wrote about that either right. It was just some guy in a ship hitting an obstacle that was in his way. No biggie. :rolleyes: While we're at it who needs to be taught history in class? That's all a waste of money. That money would be better appropriated elsewhere. Who the ^&#$%^ needs History class??? :rolleyes:
 

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Gaede;1327799 said:
The great accomplishment is that it hasn't happened before.

:hammer:

ZZZ

when you brush off significant moments in history as nothing you tend to do so because you don't want to recognize them as such. Hmm...
 

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Bleu Star;1327846 said:
uhmm ok.

The first time Christpoher Columbus landed on Plymouth Rock no one wrote about that either right. It was just some guy in a ship hitting an obstacle that was in his way. No biggie. :rolleyes: While we're at it who needs to be taught history in class? That's all a waste of money. That money would be better appropriated elsewhere. Who the ^&#$%^ needs History class??? :rolleyes:

Poor argument Bleu. The first time Columbus landed on Plymouth rock no one wrote: "FIRST WHITE GUY LANDS ON PLYMOUTH ROCK".
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1327832 said:
This is a pretty insightful post IMO. You make a few very good points Rosh.

Right, if he is not good enough, then we don't want him as a DC or HC.
 

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InmanRoshi;1327819 said:
Bigoted idiotic comments aside, here's is what bothers me about Singletary.

He's currently LB coach coach for the 49ers, who are interviewing Dave Campo this week for their defensive coordinator. If Singletary was a great coach, why wouldn't they promote him to the position? Mike Nolan worked with him in Baltimore, he knows what he's about. They fired their previous DC in midseason, and didn't even name Singletary as interim.

If his name was John Doe assistant coach with the same resume, nobody would even be talking about him.

Some coaches wait several years to get a crack at a Head Coaching gig and the best candidate doesn't always get the job.
 

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InmanRoshi;1327819 said:
Bigoted idiotic comments aside, here's is what bothers me about Singletary.

He's currently LB coach coach for the 49ers, who are interviewing Dave Campo this week for their defensive coordinator. If Singletary was a great coach, why wouldn't they promote him to the position? Mike Nolan worked with him in Baltimore, he knows what he's about. They fired their previous DC in midseason, and didn't even name Singletary as interim.

If his name was John Doe assistant coach with the same resume, nobody would even be talking about him.

You make very good points. I want Singletary simple because he excites me. Period. We need some fire at the HC position. Rivera or Singletary. Either works for me.
 

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Rowdy;1327841 said:
So what difference does that make then? If the first Asian-American won the ________ award or made a record, why bring up skin color?

What do you mean what difference does it make? Lovie and Dungy's race is the reason why it's history! That's why we're talking about it! Because this history is only history because it hasn't happened before!
 

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Rowdy;1327868 said:
Poor argument Bleu. The first time Columbus landed on Plymouth rock no one wrote: "FIRST WHITE GUY LANDS ON PLYMOUTH ROCK".

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