Mina has Dak 8

[KingCorcoran]

It is not.
I have said it before, Hurts can't carry a team.
But he can take advantage of what is around him and not make mistakes and win games.
but I think 10 other non-dak QBs can do that too.

Isn’t that the true measure of a quarterback? This is our next opponent, this is the game plan, these are the 20 or so guys available to play on offense with you, now, win.

The more significant the game won, the greater the quarterback.

 

[gimmesix]

1. Because you said objective people while having that avatar.

2. Not my fault you cannot figure out how to do simple things.

Man, Yobwocs' reply didn't deserve that kind of snark. I know the Dak debate stirs up heat, but can't we at least be civil?

There are certain posters that I don't expect civility from, but you are not usually one of them.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Thanks, you make my point.

I stated in another post that Andy Dalton was absolutely washed when he played for the Cowboys yet the team's record was actually better in terms of completed games than with Dak Prescott in the same season.

The conclusion I draw from it is that the Cowboys had a good/very good roster during that season and that Dak Prescott was not and is not a difference maker as evidenced by his poor performances and record in the play offs. Hence why making him the highest paid player in NFL history in a sport that has a salary cap is not a receipe for success.

Well how do you measure an offensive player? By the number of sacks and tackles he has?

You measure offense by what the offense does. And with Dak earlier in the year time had historically. And I mean historically bad defense. Like all time worse by a mile. And offense was putting up tons of points.

With Dalton we lost three games he first started and got absolutely crushed. The defense i.proved when we played against offenses that had injuries.

And I get it. I really do that the salary ranking is so important to fans. That's how many rank players in their minds. That's how usually real world works. But NFL is not like that. Is Mahomes the 10th best QB in the league? Because his salary is 10th!!!

And the notion that 5M a year is difference between success and failure of Cowboys is absolutely asinine. We have 32M on the cap. Could have already signed Parsons and probably another big name FA. Yet we chose not to. Had nothing to do with Dak's salary.

Last year we had 15M, the year before 25M and the year before thar 20M.

Even on his rookie contractnof 400k we still refused to sign FAs and spend.

Just look at eagles. At one point they had 10 of the top position salaries in top 5...and yet they won a superbowl.

5M is not what's stopping us

 

[zrinkill]

Man, Yobwocs' reply didn't deserve that kind of snark. I know the Dak debate stirs up heat, but can't we at least be civil?

There are certain posters that I don't expect civility from, but you are not usually one of them.

Read her reply again along with her original post.

 

[Yobwocs]

1. Because you said objective people while having that avatar.

2. Not my fault you cannot figure out how to do simple things.

You should listen to your elders

gimmesix is right. I was just wondering what my avatar had to do with it and you keep hammering me with snarkiness - with a hint of sarcasm?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Isn’t that the true measure of a quarterback? This is our next opponent, this is the game plan, these are the 20 or so guys available to play on offense with you, now, win.

The more significant the game won, the greater the quarterback.

The better the support on the team they've better probability of doing it.

Yes Hurts took advantage and won it. Nothing wrong with that

Credit to eagles who understand that ans put the right team together

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You realize the post you’re responding to isn’t about me, right?

It’s about TMC.

You are an emotional wreck.

@Vtwin he’s so distraught that he thought you were talking about me lololololol

Walks like a duck
Looks like a duck
Acts like a duck
Sounds like a duck

It's duck

The apple doesn't fall far from Tree

All you hate dak over dallas cult members are exactly the same. Same words. Same rhethoric. same ignorance.

You VT khiladi all exactly the same. I do think remember your other ghost accounts but it sounds exactly same as you..

So Marino is a loser. Just like Dak

 

[NotForLong]

If Burrow had the Chiefs defense he'd have a SB ring on his finger....or two

True story

 

[KingCorcoran]

The better the support on the team they've better probability of doing it.

Yes Hurts took advantage and won it. Nothing wrong with that

Credit to eagles who understand that ans put the right team together

There is only one Mahomes. 31 teams don’t have him. Jackson and Allen have not been to a Super Bowl and few teams have a quarterback as talented as those two. Teams either figure out a way to compete for the Super Bowl without QBs like those or just give up. It’s the other 52 guys and the coaching staff that make a quarterback a Super Bowl winner.

Just ask Allen and Jackson.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Explain how the loser of a game is still the winner.

Like I said layers of stupidity in your statement

Given you are TMZ and actually factually dont understand football then what difference does it make for me to explain it. You get lost anyway.

TMZ stuff is what you are good at so Just stick to what you know best....no shame in that. Just keep on hating. Whip up the hate Dak over Dallas cult..

 

[gimmesix]

Purdy will not be winning a Superbowl either as he is now also overpaid for his actual use to the team.

How many overpaid run of the mill quarterbacks have won or even reached the Superbowl over say the last 15 years?

I can't think of many if any.

A franchise intent on winning a Superbowl would make every penny saved count towards bringing in players to strengthen the roster. The Chiefs, Eagles and Rams have brought in extra pieces within their salary cap which got them over the line.

I can't spend someone else's money. That's on the Jones family but the starting point is not overpaying at the quarterback position to give them the flexibility to be aggressive in free agency in the first instance.

E.g., I would argue Prescott is overpaid by circa $30 million a year - in terms of productivity he's in with the likes of Mayfield, Geno Smith and Darnold (finally had a good team and produced a strong regular season before falling flat on his face in the play offs like Prescott).

My point being the Cowboys could have one of the above three quarterbacks for essentially the same productivity and another $30 million to play with regarding the salary cap.

How many underpaid quarterbacks have won Super Bowls? Last year's Super Bowl winner, Jalen Hurts, signed a five-year $255 million contract in 2023, which at that time made him the highest-paid player in NFL history. Mahomes' 10-year, $450 million deal ($250 million guaranteed) in 2020 was the largest deal in sports history. He restructured that deal in 2023, giving him $210.6 million between 2023-26, the most in NFL history at that time over a four-year span. He's made it to four Super Bowls since signing that 10-year deal, with his team winning twice.

If you throw in the other QB to win a Super Bowl in the last four years, Matthew Stafford, he had just been traded to the Rams in the last year of 5-year, $135 million extension with $92 million guaranteed, that had made him the highest-paid player in NFL history in 2017.

QBs are overpaid. They only prove worthy of it when their teams win Super Bowls, which definitely does not happen for all of them because their teams are not good enough.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

There is only one Mahomes. 31 teams don’t have him. Jackson and Allen have not been to a Super Bowl and few teams have a quarterback as talented as those two. Teams either figure out a way to compete for the Super Bowl without QBs like those or just give up. It’s the other 52 guys and the coaching staff that make a quarterback a Super Bowl winner.

Just ask Allen and Jackson.

Historically speaking. Jackson and Allan are losers.

Right .. @MountaineerCowboy

 

[NotForLong]

Are we shocked that Dak Haters interpretation is based on non-football world view?

What does this even mean. We all know what it implies. This is the sickness of the modern American mind. It is kaput

Always project and accuse rather then stay on topic. Their confused little minds are mush

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Purdy will not be winning a Superbowl either as he is now also overpaid for his actual use to the team.

How many overpaid run of the mill quarterbacks have won or even reached the Superbowl over say the last 15 years?

I can't think of many if any.

A franchise intent on winning a Superbowl would make every penny saved count towards bringing in players to strengthen the roster. The Chiefs, Eagles and Rams have brought in extra pieces within their salary cap which got them over the line.

I can't spend someone else's money. That's on the Jones family but the starting point is not overpaying at the quarterback position to give them the flexibility to be aggressive in free agency in the first instance.

E.g., I would argue Prescott is overpaid by circa $30 million a year - in terms of productivity he's in with the likes of Mayfield, Geno Smith and Darnold (finally had a good team and produced a strong regular season before falling flat on his face in the play offs like Prescott).

My point being the Cowboys could have one of the above three quarterbacks for essentially the same productivity and another $30 million to play with regarding the salary cap.

Hurts....run of the mill. But because he won you dont put him there.
Grapolo

Goff

 

[5Stars]

So you are part of the Hate Dak over Dallas cult?

No, not at all, I'm a Cowboy fan that does not like two players on the team, Dak and Micah. Carry on.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

No, not at all, I'm a Cowboy fan that does not like two players on the team, Dak and Micah. Carry on.

Dak IS their team, bro.

You don’t like Dak you’re an Eagles fan.

 

[NotForLong]

I’m ready to see what Milton can do.

I just hope that Dak doesn’t put them in a huge hole like he did last year before he quit.

He will

 

[Swagger]

How many underpaid quarterbacks have won Super Bowls? Last year's Super Bowl winner, Jalen Hurts, signed a five-year $255 million contract in 2023, which at that time made him the highest-paid player in NFL history. Mahomes' 10-year, $450 million deal ($250 million guaranteed) in 2020 was the largest deal in sports history. He restructured that deal in 2023, giving him $210.6 million between 2023-26, the most in NFL history at that time over a four-year span. He's made it to four Super Bowls since signing that 10-year deal, with his team winning twice.

Mahomes is the best quarterback in the league. It's a team friendly deal given its length and his actual productivity and use to the team.

Jalen Hurts has proved his worth to the team with excellent performances in two Superbowls. As a mobile QB he also massively helps with the team's running game. Again, he is well worth paying.

He is not a standard overpaid immobile run of the mill quarterback like Dak Prescott who is also on a 4 year contract.

 

[Whiskey Cowboy]

If he can stay healthy and is able to put some zip on his passes I could easily see him top 3 or 4. He has always done well when surrounded by weapons, and this pass catching group is probably the best he has had since he arrived in Dallas.

Physical limitations are a concern. He got hurt last year when he made an effort to use his legs, and his throws were not impressive. He looked like a player on the downside of his career. Not so good for a guy that isn't known to be a cerebral pocket passer. I hope he rebounds strong, but I have my doubts.

 

[KJJ]

His haters have been right about him being a loser for a decade.

His haters like yourself are blinded by hate. He has a winning QB record so he’s not a loser. He’s led the Cowboys to four NFC East titles, which is the most since Troy Aikman. If you’re saying he’s a loser because of his playoff record then you must think Dan Marino, Dan Fouts and Warren Moon are losers because they all had losing playoff records.