Moderation - why threads dissapear?

[Mike 1967]

One thing must be noted about ONE of the gay threads.

Someone put in some rather adult comments about sticking something somewhere.
I edited it out and let the thread stay.

A little bit later someone else did basically the same thing, once again I edited out that so the thread could stay.

And then yet again someone made more comments about sticking something somewhere that just did not need to be on the forum.

So the thread did get multiple chances before being deleted.

It should be noted as well that We DID give the thread a chance, even though by our own exp we knew it would probably turn out the way it did.

But we did give it a chance and when multiple people started making certain comments it was shut down.

I was surprised by how long it was allowed to stay on the main forum. My initial impression was that the Mods (you guys/gals) were allowing it some time.....which did surprise me in a positive way.

I was one of the ones that made comments in the area that you have described. I am curious to know if my comments are one of the ones you are referring to above ?

I thought the comments were very "clinical". I was careflul not to be to graphic or use bad language.

But...if they were deemed to be inappropriate...then I would find that to be pretty interesting.

It would be interesting, because I'm not sure how you can have a conversion regarding homosexuality without inferring the sexual action that you are saying you have an issue with in your post above.

Homo-sexuality

Homo is a latin word meaning - Man
Sexuality - a : the condition of having sex b : sexual activity c : expression of sexual receptivity or interest especially when excessive

The original discussion at hand was whether or not the NFL was ready for homosexuality. It seems only logical that if society is to be ready for homosexaulity....then it needs to be ready for homo-sexuality.

In short, if you have an issue with the description of homo-sexuality....then you should ban the topic of Homosexuality along with politics and religion. And to be fair....you should include any topic of sex along with it. But....Princess would probably take issue with you if you made that policy

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I am pretty sure you were not one of the three.

Actually if memory serves I don't remember reading any comments by you so maybe it is a different thread all together.

 

[Mike 1967]

I am pretty sure you were not one of the three.

Actually if memory serves I don't remember reading any comments by you so maybe it is a different thread all together.

But I am still curious

Are you taking issue with describing the act, or are you simply taking issue with the "way" in which the act is described ?

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

But I am still curious

Are you taking issue with describing the act, or are you simply taking issue with the "way" in which the act is described ?

Probably the way.

I have no problem with someone saying man on man or homosexual relations.

But people were being a little too graphic for the board.

When someone says....this guy should stick (insert word here) up another persons (insert word here)....

It is going a little too far IMO.

 

[Mike 1967]

Probably the way.

I have no problem with someone saying man on man or homosexual relations.

But people were being a little too graphic for the board.

When someone says....this guy should stick (insert word here) up another persons (insert word here)....

It is going a little too far IMO.

I would agree.

But some, who don't agree, would probably say that ours is a holier than thou position. And they would question what your basis is for saying that that "goes to far".

 

[trickblue]

I have no problem with someone saying man on man or homosexual relations.

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[Faerluna]

I'd prefer to paddle it.

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Mods are people..and people are biased.

People also will give preferential treatment to those that they like. And many times they will do it without even realizing it.

I mod boards for a few websites, but the difference is, noone knows that I'm the mod, and I don't really post much at all. I can't imagine having those posters know I was the mod for the boards, because they are complete loons. (It's also much easier to be unbiased when nobody knows who you are..lol..)

Mods here are very lucky because, from what I've seen, the posters are level-headed and capable of having adult discussions without sinking to vile behavior and name calling. It would appear that bias is something that posters shouldn't worry about due to the quality of poster present on the boards.

 

[trickblue]

I would agree.

But some, who don't agree, would probably say that ours is a holier than thou position. And they would question what are basis is for saying that that "goes to far".

They can have their opinion in that regard, but it doesn't matter as The Zone makes an attempt to provide a "family friendly" board...

That goes beyond good taste... (no pun intended)...

 

[Mike 1967]

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I mod boards for a few websites, but the difference is, noone knows that I'm the mod, and I don't really post much at all. I can't imagine having those posters know I was the mod for the boards, because they are complete loons. (It's also much easier to be unbiased when nobody knows who you are..lol..)

Mods here are very lucky because, from what I've seen, the posters are level-headed and capable of having adult discussions without sinking to vile behavior and name calling. It would appear that bias is something that posters shouldn't worry about due to the quality of poster present on the boards.

Bias exists anywhere you have a stated opinion. That was not a slam on these mods.

At the end of the day, everyone has standards of proper conduct wether they want to admit it or not.. And that was at the core of the original posters question....."why are some threads closed and others not ?"

I call those standards, in this particular instance, bias. Definition: "A preference or an inclination, especially one that inhibits impartial judgment. "

By definition, the term bias fit the topic at hand very well.

I also have tried other forums...and based on my experience...this Forum is a very good one for the exact same reasons that you have listed.

 

[Mike 1967]

They can have their opinion in that regard, but it doesn't matter as The Zone makes an attempt to provide a "family friendly" board...

That goes beyond good taste... (no pun intended)...

But that begs that same question

What dictates "family friendly" and "good taste" ?

If someone else has a standard different from yours...then what makes your standard correct and thiers wrong ?

 

[Danny White]

Probably the way.

I have no problem with someone saying man on man or homosexual relations.

But people were being a little too graphic for the board.

When someone says....this guy should stick (insert word here) up another persons (insert word here)....

It is going a little too far IMO.

PRUDE! :laugh2:



Damn, I love calling you that!

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

PRUDE! :laugh2:



Damn, I love calling you that!

:laugh1:

Quit picking on me. :

 

[trickblue]

But that begs that same question

What dictates "family friendly" and "good taste" ?

If someone else has a standard different from yours...then what makes your standard correct and thiers wrong ?

It doesn't... but we can generally all agree that while a medical explanation of homosexual escapades can pass muster, a street interpretation ususally goes beyond the standard...

The reason sites like this have mods is to make that judgement when it is broached... well, that and to take abuse...

 

[Mike 1967]

It doesn't... but we can generally all agree that while a medical explanation of homosexual escapades can pass muster, a street interpretation ususally goes beyond the standard...

The reason sites like this have mods is to make that judgement when it is broached... well, that and to take abuse...

Why do we all agree on that ? How can it be that we can all come to the same common conclusion on a what is "proper" and what is not ?

And what if someone does not agree ? Is their view wrong simply because they fall into the minority ?

If you found yourself in a situation where society generally agreed that infant sacrifice was proper (as has been the case in past history)....would trickblue agree with that ?

 

[Dallas]

I'd prefer to paddle it.

HAHAHA - I fell over - that was funny LT.

Hehehe


SPANKIE THE JUKIE !!!


Line up Juke !!!

 

[trickblue]

Why do we all agree on that ? How can it be that we can all come to the same common conclusion on a what is "proper" and what is not ?

And what if someone does not agree ? Is their view wrong simply because they fall into the minority ?

If you found yourself in a situation where society generally agreed that infant sacrifice was proper (as has been the case in past history)....would trickblue agree with that ?

Why go over the top with your analogy?

My point was that using medical terms to describe something in lieu of street slang is a totally differrent thing...

It's not rocket science here, Mike... we most all know when lines have been crossed...

and... as I said... mods are around to make that determination if others don't get it...

 

[Mike 1967]

Why go over the top with your analogy?

My point was that using medical terms to describe something in lieu of street slang is a totally differrent thing...

It's not rocket science here, Mike... we most all know when lines have been crossed...

and... as I said... mods are around to make that determination if others don't get it...

It is going to the core of the argument in my viewpoint.

When you begin a discussion of what is right and what is wrong.....then you have begun a very philisophical discussion.

What makes something right and what makes something wrong.

I am simply attempting to point out the hypocrisy of non-Christians who call Christians holier than thou.

Because the bottom line here is obvious....if you operate by any moral standard then you are holier than thou.

From my viewpoint, it is one thing to disagree with my Christian morality.....but is it quite another to judge me as righteous because of that standard. Because if that is the definition of righteous...then we are all righteous.

It is not a matter of righteousness, it is a matter of foundation. We all have a foundation that starts at some point.

I also find this topic interesting...because it is another proof for God.

If you say that people generally agree on a basic moral code...regardless of the society they are in...then that is evidence of a law. And that begs the question...where did that law come from.

Don't get me wrong Trickblue....I am not saying that you are a Christian (I don't know if you are or not.). So please don't think that my points are directly aimed at you.

I am aiming the questions at you...but the point/purpose of those questions is not necessarily aimed at you.

I am not criticizing the standards of the mods on this forum. I am simply begging certain questions in an effort to expand the conversation.

 

[trickblue]

It is going to the core of the argument in my viewpoint.

When you begin a discussion of what is right and what is wrong.....then you have begun a very philisophical discussion.

What makes something right and what makes something wrong.

I am simply attempting to point out the hypocrisy of non-Christians who call Christians holier than thou.

Because the bottom line here is obvious....if you operate by any moral standard then you are holier than thou.

From my viewpoint, it is one thing to disagree with my Christian morality.....but is it quite another to judge me as righteous because of that standard. Because if that is the definition of righteous...then we are all righteous.

It is not a matter of righteousness, it is a matter of foundation. We all have a foundation that starts at some point.

I also find this topic interesting...because it is another proof for God.

If you say that people generally agree on a basic moral code...regardless of the society they are in...then that is evidence of a law. And that begs the question...where did that law come from.

Don't get me wrong Trickblue....I am not saying that you are a Christian (I don't know if you are or not.). So please don't think that my points are directly aimed at you.

I am aiming the questions at you...but the point/purpose of those questions is not necessarily aimed at you.

I am not criticizing the standards of the mods on this forum. I am simply begging certain questions in an effort to expand the conversation.

I wasn't making a point of what is right or wrong... it was an issue of what IS acceptable and what is NOT acceptable... two different animals...

and for the record... yes I am a Christian and my father has been a Southern Baptist pastor for over 50 years... so I am an insider...

 

[Mike 1967]

I wasn't making a point of what is right or wrong... it was an issue of what IS acceptable and what is NOT acceptable... two different animals...

and for the record... yes I am a Christian and my father has been a Southern Baptist pastor for over 50 years... so I am an insider...

But the argument remains the same...you have just used a different color bow on your wrapping

Acceptable - Adequate to satisfy a standard.
Standard - A requirement of moral conduct.

A bow, by any other color, is still a bow.

That last is good news indeed !

 

[WV Cowboy]

I am probably, ... no, I am one who has been referred to as "being too graphic" when discussing homosexuality.

I usually keep a pretty low profile around here, as seen by my post count of under 1,000 after being here a year and a half.

But during that discussion, I got tired of dealing with those ... that by thinking of homosexuality as simply two guys, holding hands, skipping through a field of flowers, ... condoned it.

So to clear the air, and make sure we were all talking about the same thing, I layed it out on the table and described exactly what they are doing.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Once that "picture image" of what they are doing with/to each other is out there, and we deal with exactly what we are talking about, most find it disgusting, repulsive, and offensive, ... and know that it is wrong.

So much so that the thread was closed.

If you are ok with the term homosexual, but are bothered by the graphic description of their actions, then you have your head in the proverbial sand.

If you are ok with both, then that is your choice.

I realize that homosexuals have been around for a long, long time. And if they choose to do those things with/to each other privately, that is their business.

(Although my heart aches for them and their confusion)

I simply do not want this to become openly accepted, and splashed in front of our faces, or more importantly, our children's faces in TV, movies, media, etc.

Simply stay in the "closet".