Mom, Grandmom Arrested After Disciplining Kid on FB

[WV Cowboy]

In my world, I can't think of any good reason to do this to a child, or actually do anything close to this.
I raised two boys, through the teen-age years into adulthood, and rarely smacked their butt.
After watching this, I think the Mom and Grandma went too far.

But we don't know, .. maybe the Mom lost two brothers to gang violence, and she would do anything to keep her baby from following in thier footsteps.

I don't know.

< just don't put it on social media >

 

[bigdnlaca]

The Rocawear jacket was punishment enough.

The person who was filming was gloating about how he just got out of prison and enjoying the boy getting whipped.

 

[BigStar]

The Rocawear jacket was punishment enough.

The person who was showing the footage was gloating about how he just got out of prison and enjoying the boy getting whipped.

That's why I thought it was excessive and unlikely done to "help" the kid in any way. The mom and grandma were having a little too much fun.

To the bolded:

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

discipline can be humiliation. even judges order thieves to wear signs in public for humiliation. this is why towns had stocks you could be locked in during the old days.

i would like to think society has progressed from the days of stocks, tar and feathering etc

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

They should not of been arrested, but I think you are arguing apples and oranges. A kid vs an adult. Also, take into account, mental health, which is actually being taken seriously, now a days. Personally, I think what they did was acceptable, if he joined a gang or is trying to be a gang banger.

hitting a child with a belt 60 times is fine?

 

[WoodysGirl]

In my world, I can't think of any good reason to do this to a child, or actually do anything close to this.
I raised two boys, through the teen-age years into adulthood, and rarely smacked their butt.
After watching this, I think the Mom and Grandma went too far.

But we don't know, .. maybe the Mom lost two brothers to gang violence, and she would do anything to keep her baby from following in thier footsteps.

I don't know.

< just don't put it on social media >

The bold should end the thread... Logically speaking however a parent wants to discipline their child, if it involves hitting of any kind, they shouldn't videotape and put it on FB.

 

[WV Cowboy]

The bold should end the thread... Logically speaking however a parent wants to discipline their child, if it involves hitting of any kind, they shouldn't videotape and put it on FB.

LOL, .. you and I think that is obvious, .. some however, don't get it and must not.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Fear is a powerful motivator. I remember the beatings (thankfully not many) I got as a child and can assure you I am a better person today because of them. Just the fear of a beating was enough to set me on the straight and narrow. My dad always told me the punishment from him would be worse than whatever punishment I received from the school if I did something bad. But, he also would have beat anyone who touched me for no reason. He was fair.

What I saw from that video was a parent who cares about her child. I think this parent has seen enough of what bad neighborhoods and bad schools have done and decided enough is enough. Take a look around any bad neighborhood today, anyone think parents sparing the rod and present government are doing an ounce of good? I saw a 'Scared Straight' program recently and the kids weren't even scared of the inmates. For some reason kids today think they are immune from any punishment. Touch me and I'm calling Uncle Sam and you are going to jail. We are reaping what we have sowed.

 

[Idgit]

I got my due beatings when I was a kid. Deserved them all. Having to admit your wrong and apologize is always humiliating. Its what makes strong people.

This goes way being 'admitting you're wrong' and 'apologizing.' And I'm not arguing against corporal punishment at all. But that's not what this was. This was hitting a 6 year old boy more than *60* times, with a belt, and then publishing it. If you can't see how damaging and inappropriate that is, and what a colossal failure of parenting it is, I'm not sure what to tell you. It's not exactly a gray area.

 

[Tabascocat]

I got whacked by a belt/paddle/stick many, many times as a youth(mostly warranted) by parents, teachers and coaches. I think I turned out ok
Yet, those were different times. Now days, if a parent mildly taps a kid on the butt or arm for acting up, some people give them the nastiest look like the kid is being abused.

I have zero problems with tough love(spankings or the like) but there is a point that is not to be crossed. Being hit 60 times and shown on the internet is ignorant, childish and humiliating, more so for the elders than the boy.

Unfortunately, we will never revert back to the good ole days of punishment(privately) without everyone scrutinizing our every move while adding in there unneeded input/advice. All my mom had to say was "just wait until dad gets home" and I straightened up pretty fast. He would lay me across his lap and give me a whooping with a belt 2 or 3 times. I never made that same mistake again, just new ones that led to a few more lashings

 

[Idgit]

6 year olds barely know much of anything. Certainly nothing complex. You have to make them not want to do anything like that again; and each kid is unique in what might work for one will not work for another. That is where idgit is as usual wrong. He thinks there is a one size fits all punishment.

I don't.

And there's a huge difference, burm, between me 'usually disagreeing with you,' and me 'usually being wrong.'

 

[Stryker44]

The kid was 11 not 6 from my understanding. An age where kids can really start falling into bad crowds.

 

[BigStar]

Fear is a powerful motivator. I remember the beatings (thankfully not many) I got as a child and can assure you I am a better person today because of them. Just the fear of a beating was enough to set me on the straight and narrow. My dad always told me the punishment from him would be worse than whatever punishment I received from the school if I did something bad. But, he also would have beat anyone who touched me for no reason. He was fair.

What I saw from that video was a parent who cares about her child. I think this parent has seen enough of what bad neighborhoods and bad schools have done and decided enough is enough. Take a look around any bad neighborhood today, anyone think parents sparing the rod and present government are doing an ounce of good? I saw a 'Scared Straight' program recently and the kids weren't even scared of the inmates. For some reason kids today think they are immune from any punishment. Touch me and I'm calling Uncle Sam and you are going to jail. We are reaping what we have sowed.

You think they don't use corp punishment in trailer parks and ghettos? Doesn't seem to have had much effect. Corp punishment is very different than humiliation tactics to bully your own son. She was having quite the time too.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

60 times SOUNDS horrible. But this isnt a lashing in the roman empire. 60 times with a belt? Is the kids permanently injured? Nope. Then the amount is kinda irrelevant.

 

[Idgit]

60 times SOUNDS horrible. But this isnt a lashing in the roman empire. 60 times with a belt? Is the kids permanently injured? Nope. Then the amount is kinda irrelevant.

Why in the world is it irrelevant just because the child was not permanently injured? Permanent injury is not the basis we're using here for determining if a consequence is effective or appropriate! Unbelievable.

 

[joseephuss]

60 times SOUNDS horrible. But this isnt a lashing in the roman empire. 60 times with a belt? Is the kids permanently injured? Nope. Then the amount is kinda irrelevant.

The child may not be permanently injured physically. Does anyone at this time know if the child is permanently injured mentally or emotionally? I would say 60 times is relevant. Perhaps not the most relevant of things, but it has some bearing on the situation. It can't be totally ignored.

 

[Stryker44]

It also seems like the kid was smacked on the tush...which doesn't make it seem like the motive was to deliberately cause harm to the kid.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

The child may not be permanently injured physically. Does anyone at this time know if the child is permanently injured mentally or emotionally? I would say 60 times is relevant. Perhaps not the most relevant of things, but it has some bearing on the situation. It can't be totally ignored.

I did say "kinda irrelevant" afterall. my point was if its 1, 5 or more...if it causes no permanent physical damage then they shouldnt be viewed as all that different. Whether i got 2 or 5 as a kid...it all had the same impact for me.

 

[CashMan]

hitting a child with a belt 60 times is fine?

If he is trying to join a gang? YES.

 

[Hoofbite]

I'm sure he's learned his lesson. Well, at least for the time being. What happens when he gets old enough to prevent such punishment, or even worse decides to dish it out if someone thinks they will try to whip him?

Parents are stupid and the kid is a kid.

Beating children is stupid no matter what. They don't learn anything and will probably return the favor later on in one way or another.