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[aria]

You didn't attend public school. Did you?

Actually no. You weren't in a fraternity, were you?

Trust me, there were almost daily fights whete I went to school so I don't know what you're implying.

 

[Sydla]

And how many of those witnesses can still be found? Wouldn't it be reasonable to think Zeke would know who did it since it happened within a few feet of him? Wouldn't it be reasonable to think the victim knew who did it? Wouldn't it be reasonable to think the victim is hiding something by giving false contact information and was unable to be found.

I swear either some of you are truly ignorant and blind or just refuse to admit Zeke is even the slightest bit guilty. The entire metroplex could watch Zeke pull up that girls shirt but unless there was video of it no one would believe it. Since there is proof it's "ah, he's just a kid".

I wonder how many of you would still deny it if there was concrete evidence he hit the girl. Probably something like "self defense" or "she deserved it".

People like you are why every other fan base hates us. Never admit one of our players is wrong until he goes to another team then bash him, constantly make excuses for only our players instead of acknowledging it happens all over the league and play the "poor us,victim card" when things like this happen because Jerry continues to employ players with questionable character issues. Keep drinking the Jerry Aid brotha.

Give me the proof. That's all I ask. I am perfectly capable of criticizing one of our players if the proof is there. I don't want your assumptions or guesses or whatever BS you've spewed. If you have proof of him hitting a DJ, show it. If he did it, I'll rip him to high heaven. In fact, I have criticized him for even being in proximity of the guy getting knocked out. He needs to be wiser, but I also won't be an ignorant fool and just assume he did it.

I really couldn't give two craps about what other fans think of us. Frankly, fans of other teams would be DOING THE SAME THING IF ONE OF THEIR STAR PLAYERS was being accused of the same thing.

So your point is silly.

 

[aria]

How hard is that to do really? Are you too niave to think a person, who has admittedly said she was gonna frame him, can't manufacture those injuries?

Are you to naive to think Zeke didn't use drugs and admitted to it through texts? Are you to naive to believe he didn't hit that dude in a nightclub? Are you to naive to see a pattern of behavior that is concerning?

 

[diefree666]

Are you to naive to think Zeke didn't use drugs and admitted to it through texts? Are you to naive to believe he didn't hit that dude in a nightclub? Are you to naive to see a pattern of behavior that is concerning?

The fact that you WANT to believe the worst of Zeke is what is clear. You flat out state he hit that DJ. Despite the preponderance of evidence otherwise. And then you whine when most of us treat you as you deserve or laugh at you.

 

[aria]

Why would it be strange for one woman to grab another by the neck if they are fighting?

All I said is I've never seen that and while it can and probably does happen it's a also a very common technique used by males in DV cases.

I nevet said he did it, I just said it was the ONE mark that seemed a little out of place for every girl fight I've seen. That's just me.

 

[aria]

I dont know about all that but anyone can see she is capable of doing so considering how shes been scheming and plotting to "ruin" Zeke.

I don't disagree but I also can Zeke being violent based on his history. For the last time, not saying he did it, just that it would be much easier to believe him 100% without his checkered past.

 

[Sydla]

I don't disagree but I also can Zeke being violent based on his history. For the last time, not saying he did it, just that it would be much easier to believe him 100% without his checkered past.

Wait........... so you are saying because he smokes weed, was caught speeding, was next to a DJ who got punched out and pulled a girl's top down, that is a history that would also indicate he's violent?

Dude, you are full of it. Stop trying to tell people you are open to the possibility that he didn't do it. No one believes anymore. You are only taking that tact now because as you read more and more of the evidence, you want to protect yourself in case it comes out that, indeed, he never laid hands on the girl. CYA 101.

 

[Shuff]

Why are these pics being taken outside with her bra on? Why not go inside and get better shots? Just an observation.

 

[diefree666]

I don't disagree but I also can Zeke being violent based on his history. For the last time, not saying he did it, just that it would be much easier to believe him 100% without his checkered past.

Now THAT is slander on Zeke. But then you really don't care at all do you? This is simply a pathetic bid for attention.

 

[aria]

Give me the proof. That's all I ask. I am perfectly capable of criticizing one of our players if the proof is there. I don't want your assumptions or guesses or whatever BS you've spewed. If you have proof of him hitting a DJ, show it. If he did it, I'll rip him to high heaven. In fact, I have criticized him for even being in proximity of the guy getting knocked out. He needs to be wiser, but I also won't be an ignorant fool and just assume he did it.

I really couldn't give two craps about what other fans think of us. Frankly, fans of other teams would be DOING THE SAME THING IF ONE OF THEIR STAR PLAYERS was being accused of the same thing.

So your point is silly.

Fair enough. Give me proof that he didn't hit her just once. I'm not saying she didn't get in a fight and I'm not saying she didn't ask her friend to lie about certain aspects but can you tell me 100% that he didn't once lay a hand on her?

Has it ever occurred to you that maybe he hit her and she asked her friend to lie to make it look worse than it was? That doesn't mean he's innocent.

 

[aria]

Now THAT is slander on Zeke. But then you really don't care at all do you? This is simply a pathetic bid for attention.

Ok, he may be violent and he's definitely an idiot and selfish. That better?

 

[ajk23az]

Me too.

The girl she got in a fight with was an all Big 10 volleyball player for OSU, who now plays professionally overseas.

 

[Sage3030]

Agreed. I would never - and do not - blame him for following their advice.

But why is their advice not to deny?

Almost certainly because to do so would be untrue.

Otherwise the best legal advice would be to proclaim your complete innocence.

Trust me: in my business, that's criminal defense 101.

He has already denied doing any of this. Articles have been posted here ad nauseum. If you didn't know by now that he already has(long ago), then it's really on you.

 

[DogFace]

Actually no. You weren't in a fraternity, were you?

Trust me, there were almost daily fights whete I went to school so I don't know what you're implying.

You had girl fights in your fraternity?

 

[aria]

Wait........... so you are saying because he smokes weed, was caught speeding, was next to a DJ who got punched out and pulled a girl's top down, that is a history that would also indicate he's violent?

Dude, you are full of it. Stop trying to tell people you are open to the possibility that he didn't do it. No one believes anymore. You are only taking that tact now because as you read more and more of the evidence, you want to protect yourself in case it comes out that, indeed, he never laid hands on the girl. CYA 101.

There's no doubt in my mind he hit the DJ. So you claim he's innocent because the girl lied. What about the DJ lying about his contact info and why did he disappear? Why wouldn't Zeke see who hit his "acquaintance" right in front of him? Why did security just let this mystery hitter walk out the door? Can you explain that to me?

Funny, you keep saying "stop trying to tell people you're open to the possibility he didn't do it". Why can't I be? So the chick lied and was in a fight, I guess that clears Zeke 100%, case closed. Not to mention all I've said is I think the truth lies somewhere between.

How many of you lie about John Mara, accusing him of controlling Goodell and making all the decisions with regards to punishments? Where's your proof of that? Ok then, so please stop using Mara as an excuse for everything wrong with the Cowboys.

 

[Philmonroe]

Exactly. This whole "gotcha" angle being played by some people who have already decided he did this because he didn't have a strong denial last week is hilarious. Like that's the smoking gun.

"Hey guyzzzz, of course he did it, he didn't deny it! I mean if I were in his shoes I'd be screaming my innocence...... he's not, so no doubt he did it!"

It makes people look silly or at least biased but as long as they are on the "right" side they feel they can do anything.

 

[DogFace]

Fair enough. Give me proof that he didn't hit her just once. I'm not saying she didn't get in a fight and I'm not saying she didn't ask her friend to lie about certain aspects but can you tell me 100% that he didn't once lay a hand on her?

Has it ever occurred to you that maybe he hit her and she asked her friend to lie to make it look worse than it was? That doesn't mean he's innocent.

Give me proof you don't beat your wife.

 

[aria]

You had girl fights in your fraternity?

Hahahahaha...like I would even think about joining a fraternity. Too similar to the majority of the people here.

 

[aria]

Give me proof you don't beat your wife.

Why? So she can pull this quote up if she ever accuses me of DV and try to make me look like a liar which could question my credibility if they believe her? No comment.

 

[Sydla]

Fair enough. Give me proof that he didn't hit her just once. I'm not saying she didn't get in a fight and I'm not saying she didn't ask her friend to lie about certain aspects but can you tell me 100% that he didn't once lay a hand on her?

Has it ever occurred to you that maybe he hit her and she asked her friend to lie to make it look worse than it was? That doesn't mean he's innocent.

That's not how this works. It's up to those who think Elliott did do this to prove it. Not the other way around.

Curious. What do you do for a living? Nothing specific. Just want do you do?