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X, I'm thinking that much of Parnell's future will be shown by just how well he does in tomorrow's game. With a need game against a quality opponent, there is no more hiding behind team need or potential for him. Here's your one chance 'fancy,' don't let us down.
 

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Hope you guys are right and Parnell is able to "get it". Otherwise letting Free go is a huge mistake.

Is Free a top RT? He is paid like it (surprising tbh bc thought he was reduced?), you have to move on in this league. Go w/Parnell and a draft pick (top 4) to compete. Can't have $ @ every position. Will have to renew Fred/Martin eventually @ high salaries.
 

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X, I'm thinking that much of Parnell's future will be shown by just how well he does in tomorrow's game. With a need game against a quality opponent, there is no more hiding behind team need or potential for him. Here's your one chance 'fancy,' don't let us down.

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He isn't paid that much for a top 15 rated tackle. You will have to pay Parnell similar $$ so you better be right because you aren't going to replace with a 3rd/4th round pick in year one. Free has played well and has other important leadership positives for this line. No ax to grind but if you are counting on Parnell to be your everyday consistent RT, you better be right.
 

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He isn't paid that much for a top 15 rated tackle. You will have to pay Parnell similar $$ so you better be right because you aren't going to replace with a 3rd/4th round pick in year one. Free has played well and has other important leadership positives for this line. No ax to grind but if you are counting on Parnell to be your everyday consistent RT, you better be right.

actually he is paid too much for what he does. He is paid like a top 5 RT
 

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I wouldn't say I'm NERVOUS about Parnell tomorrow but not confident either. We shall see.
 

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Listening to local sports talk radio, they said somebody from the Cowboys was on and said Parnell is the best swing tackle in the NFL.

A couple of the radio hosts said they don't think there is any dropoff from Free to Parnell. I guess some media is finally coming around. LOL.

The radio guys were worried about Bern replacing Martin.

No dropoff from Free to Parnell is not exactly a good thing, either.
 

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look at the ratings, he is a top 5 RT this year. Replace him if you think he isn't worth it but as I keep saying, if you are wrong about your replacement then you will set the line back. It will be interesting to see what they actually do with Free/Parnell versus what all the internet "experts" think they should do.
 

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actually he is paid too much for what he does. He is paid like a top 5 RT

Not anymore.

The salary cap sites now look at Doug Free's contract as a two year, $7M deal since his renegotiation last year.

That ranks 16th among RTs on overthecap.
 

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whomever said that hasn't been watching the games.
the yards rushing to the right fell of a cliff after Free went out.

lol dont even bother debating anything Parnell with X. Every sunday he takes out his doug free voodoo doll and pokes it with needles
 

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Not anymore.

The salary cap sites now look at Doug Free's contract as a two year, $7M deal since his renegotiation last year.

That ranks 16th among RTs on overthecap.
How are there still people that are cowboy fans that dont know the last 2 yrs of doug frees contract are voided?
 

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The Texas Rangers had a minor league reliever named Wilmer Font that was 6'4" and at least 250 pounds. He has always listed as 180 pounds in the press listings and someone finally asked him about it a year ago. He said he was 180 when he signed as a free agent out of Venezuela when he was 16 years old and they had never changed it. When I googled him just now he was listed at 265.

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Not anymore.

The salary cap sites now look at Doug Free's contract as a two year, $7M deal since his renegotiation last year.

That ranks 16th among RTs on overthecap.

That isn't correct. That link uses their ranking of "total contract value", which isn't the right measure. If you had listed Free's contract before it was renegotiated down he would be #1. Right now #1 on that list of Anthony Davis of the 49ers because he was the 11th pick of the draft and this is the peak year of his bonuses on his contract.

Click on the same webpage to sort by 2014 numbers and Free is 2nd in the NFL at RT (after Anthony Davis) with a cap hit of 6.52MM for this season. Does anyone here really want to argue that the team is getting 6.5MM in value from Free this season?
 
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Pro Football Focus (which isn't the end all be all, I know some fans hate anything to do with the site) has a section called Signature Stats that lets you look at a variety of things.

With OTs, the Signature stat is Pass Blocking Efficiency (PBE), which measures pressures (sacks, hits, hurries) allowed on a per snap basis.

Jermey Parnell has the highest grade on the team.

Sadly, there isn't any rushing category in these stats.

I'm a Parnell fan and I have no problem admitting his run blocking hasn't met my expectations, especially the last game against Philadelphia.

I liked what he did in Seattle, but that was just a handful of plays and their defense was gassed by that point. I thought Parnell did a good job the following week in his first start against the Giants. He had some great blocks in the running game, including one play where he came inside and made a diving block to spring DeMarco Murray.

I didn't like his run blocking in the Washington game, but they were blitzing like crazy, hellbent on stopping the run.

The Arizona game was worse, but it would be wrong to not credit their defense for how they played.

And he just wasn't aggressive in the second half against the Eagles last Sunday night.

I'm hoping for better tomorrow afternoon.
 

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That isn't correct. That link uses their ranking of "total contract value", which isn't the right measure. If you had listed Free's contract before it was renegotiated down he would be #1. Right now #1 on that list of Anthony Davis of the 49ers because he was the 11th pick of the draft and this is the peak year of his bonuses on his contract.

When I was looking at that page, it had the RTs ranked by average salary per year.

And Doug Free was tied for 15th instead of being 16th based on his average of $3.5M the last two years.

I know he was right at the top before the renegotiation, but I don't feel Free's been overpaid since taking the pay cut.

I don't know what the team wants to do at RT going forward. Do they want to keep Free, Jermey Parnell, move Zack Martin or use the draft?

I prefer to keep Martin at RG and re-sign Free or Parnell before free agency starts.

I don't want to give Free another signing bonus, just negotiate to lower the base salaries on the remaining two years in his contract if he wants to stay here.

Otherwise, I will turn the page.
 

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I prefer to keep Martin at RG and re-sign Free or Parnell before free agency starts.

I agree with that and I've said Free is a better player than Parnell, but Free is overpaid and Parnell has more upside but more risk.

But it isn't correct to say Free is 15th in salary. That Overthecap site is taking an average over the total contract of the player and includes non-guaranteed money. Free isn't in the middle of the pack in salary, he is the second highest paid RT this year in terms of cap hit.
 

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A couple of the radio hosts said they don't think there is any dropoff from Free to Parnell. I guess some media is finally coming around. LOL.

Coming around, or are just like most around here have been saying. That the media is composed of idiots and morons. If they don't think there's any drop off from Free to Parnell, I'd lean heavily towards the latter.
 

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I agree with that and I've said Free is a better player than Parnell, but Free is overpaid and Parnell has more upside but more risk.

If Doug Free leaves and Jermey Parnell stays, we'd need to have another option on hand in case of injury and/or poor performance.

Darrion Weems will be back and looks like the current favorite to become the new swing tackle to me, but he hasn't played a regular season snap to date.

Because of this concern, I remain open to drafting a RT early.


But it isn't correct to say Free is 15th in salary. That Overthecap site is taking an average over the total contract of the player and includes non-guaranteed money. Free isn't in the middle of the pack in salary, he is the second highest paid RT this year in terms of cap hit.

Cap hit or base salary?

A cap hit includes base salary and past signing bonus pro-ration along with various other types of bonuses that might be in the contract.

Doug Free made $3.5M last year and this year, which is a number I can handle.

Anthony Collins is making $4M ($6M next yr), Phil Loadholt $3.4M ($4.4M next yr), Andre Smith $3M ($4.6M next yr), Todd Herremans $3M ($4M next yr) and Austin Howard $2.9M ($4.9M next yr).

What will it cost to keep Free?

Will he amend his contract and play out the final two seasons at much lower base salaries or is he looking to cash in as a free agent?
 
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