Most underrated Cowboy

[ABQCOWBOY]

Nobody will agree with me on this one but I think currently, it's Pettiti. I can't begin to understand the difficulty of a Rookie Tackle coming into the league and being asked to start and produce the kind of results most expected. I just thought that asking a Rookie to start all 16 games at tackle was much to ask. Under the circumstances, I thought he did well and I thought he was curcified for it. Not saying he was all pro or that he even should have been starting but I am saying that as a Rookie, he did a much better job then we give him credit for.

All time, I would say Hershal Walker. Here is a guy who, IMO, played like a HOF player for us on some horrible teams. He's never mentioned in HOF discussions. Who should be in the Hall? You hear lots of other names but never Walker. He was a great, great player. Unfortunatly, Expectations were so high for him coming out of Georgia that no matter how good he was, he was never good enough. JMO of course.

 

[siegbach]

i would have to say dexter clinksdale(sp) of the early to mid 80's.he was in a secondary that had walls,downs,and thurman.clinksdale didn't get alot of love but made some great plays during his time with the cowboys.if i'm getting his name wrong i think he wore #47 for the boys in the early 80's.


right now i would say newman.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

Newman

 

[rexrobinson]

I am going to have to say TNew

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Present (general fans): Newman, Roy, Fabini (tied)

Should be talked about as the best CB or a top 3 CB after last season and there's still plenty of people that think he's a bust. Literally shut down everybody last year and for the most part has had an excellent career. Sure, I didn't know if he'd ever be an elite, top 5 CB coming into 2005, but last year he undoubtedly answered that.

People love to knock Roy, but he was generally very good in coverage last year and had a bigger year than Troy Polamalu. Unfortunately, Roy doesn't have long hair so he doesn't get a Defensive MVP award.

Fabini was a top LT in 2004 and was hurt in 2005. He's an excellent run blocker, solid in pass protection, and doesn't make many penalties. Now that he's moving to RT, he should be at his natural position. Yet, most fans (sans Patriots fans) act like Fabini is Solomon Page v. 2.0.


Present (Cowboys fans): Al Johnson

Yeah, he gets overpowered too much, but he really wasn't getting any help from Allen or Rivera last year. Dallas was 11th in adjusted line yard runs up the middle last year. Sure, he's not great. But I think he was really doing a nice job in the second half of the season and has more potential and upside than most fans think.


Past: Danny White

Fell into the "guy that has to replace legendary QB" role and I always thought he was a lot better than given credit for.


Rich........

 

[stealth]

ima have to say bledsoe, we are pretty spoiled around here for QBs and he is the best one since aikman, and I honestly think if bledsoe was our qb in the early nineties we woulda been just as good and bledsoe would be in the HOF.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

ima have to say bledsoe, we are pretty spoiled around here for QBs and he is the best one since aikman, and I honestly think if bledsoe was our qb in the early nineties we woulda been just as good and bledsoe would be in the HOF.

I think the problem with Bledsoe is that he's a very unique QB. He can really wing the ball with the best of him. Throughout his career with NE, Buffalo, and even Dallas last year he's shown that he can be very effective even if he's playing without a very good running game and receiving corp.

However, he's very reliant on the pass protection. If it's good, he's downright excellent. If it's not, his production greatly drops off.

And when the pass protection is good, fans will just say that "well, anybody can be effective with good pass protection."

That's not exactly true. Good pass protection doesn't really greatly impact McNabb's effectiveness. The same could be said for Vick. But in both of their cases, the quality of the WR's have a much more of an impact on their production.


Rich...........

 

[InmanRoshi]

Terrence Newman. It was an outright crime that he didn't make it to the Pro Bowl this year. If there were a solid statistical measurement that was readily used to rate CB's, Terrence would be among to the Top 3 CB's in the NFL. Ask most casual NFL fans (or even players), or journalists and I don't think he would get listed among to the Top 10.

It doesn't help that he gets absolutely no push from the Dallas media, which is sad because he and Greg Ellis are always the guys in the locker room politely and sincerely answering questions even after the most heartbreaking loss after everyone else is ducking out the backdoor to get on the bus.

 

[The Answer]

ima have to say bledsoe, we are pretty spoiled around here for QBs and he is the best one since aikman, and I honestly think if bledsoe was our qb in the early nineties we woulda been just as good and bledsoe would be in the HOF.

Bledsoe came out in 1993, and was a rookie when we won our 2nd of 3 in lombardi trophies in the 90's, but yes I agree. The Answer thinks he would have been just as good as Troy in that offense given the talent around him. Call me crazy but Bledsoe might have done better since he has a much better arm than Troy did.

As for the HOF debate, I think Bledsoe is a lock. He is on pace to finish with well over 50,000+ passing yards and should be in the top 5 or better of every major statistical category when he hangs up his jersey. Add the fact that Warren Moon got in on the 1st ballot with numbers that are only slightly better than what Bledsoe has right now, than I have no doubts. But it would be a nice addition to Drew's resume if he can win a superbowl ring on his own.

~The Answer

 

[bigdrulez3141]

How can it not be Newman? he shuts everyone down whoever he is against, I understand that to get recognition by the media or a pro-bowl you need to get Ints so hopefully he can do that this year, but as of right now Tnew has to be the most underrated.

 

[The Answer]

I think the problem with Bledsoe is that he's a very unique QB. He can really wing the ball with the best of him. Throughout his career with NE, Buffalo, and even Dallas last year he's shown that he can be very effective even if he's playing without a very good running game and receiving corp.

However, he's very reliant on the pass protection. If it's good, he's downright excellent. If it's not, his production greatly drops off.

And when the pass protection is good, fans will just say that "well, anybody can be effective with good pass protection."

That's not exactly true. Good pass protection doesn't really greatly impact McNabb's effectiveness. The same could be said for Vick. But in both of their cases, the quality of the WR's have a much more of an impact on their production.


Rich...........

That's a good assessment, there's no question Bledsoe's biggest downfall is his lack of mobility in the pocket. But then again how many of these's 'running' QB's get it done in the big games? Vick and Mcnabb have both choked against good defenses (especially tampa bay and the cover 2) when they were unable to break containment and make plays.

The Answer thinks that pass protection is critical for any QB, whether 'mobile' or not. Look at Manning, in his most recent playoff lost against the steelers he looked horrible and made it no secret that his poor performance was due to shoddy pass protection, he even called his team out for that....very surprising.

~The Answer

 

[TEK2000]

My vote is based on how Cowboys fans rate the team's players, and I'll say Roy Williams is the most underrated. Sure, he made the Pro Bowl, but way too many of his own team's fans (as well as a lot of other people) think he's overrated -- but he's not. As I've said many times, he makes more big plays in all aspects of the game (sacks, interceptions, forced fumbles, etc.) than any other safety. Some guys get more interceptions (Ed Reed when healthy) but don't get the sacks or forced fumbles. Some guys get the sacks (Adrian Wilson) but don't get the interceptions or forced fumbles. Roy makes big plays in every different way, along with his big hits and run-stopping ability, and he does it despite not being used in a way that would maximize his impact. He gets knocked for supposedly going for the hit and missing tackles, but that's no more common -- and probably less common -- than the missed tackles by any other Pro Bowl safety. And he gets slammed for his coverage. But having charted every pass attempt against us last season, I don't think his coverage was a problem at all. There were very few plays when I marked him down for allowing a completion of any significance.

Al Johnson and Aaron Glenn might be underrated by more Cowboys fans, but those who underrate Roy do so by a greater degree.

THANK YOU ADAM!!!! Finally someone that sees it clearly.

By the way.. I must have missed your pass coverage play breakdown (if you posted it)... any way you could PM it to me or post it? THANKS!! I'd love to see it.

 

[Cowboy Junkie]

Newman and Roy Williams today and Emmitt is the all time underrated....
For those who think that Emmitt was only great due to a great Oline either did not pay attention when he was in his prime or did not get to see him in his prime....
If it was all about the Oline than other backs would have been interchangable and that was not the case .In the event some have forgotten , Emmitts 2 game hold out and the Cowboys starting out 0-2 that year...

 

[DCowboyz]

Man, the whole D is pretty much underrated..

Henry, Newman, Ware, James, Ellis, Spears, Ferguson, Roy (as stated above), our newest S Pat Watkins.. Hell, even Bobby Carpenter is underrated.. Why? Who knows..

Take it from what it's worth..

 

[littlewebs]

It doesn't help that (Newman) gets absolutely no push from the Dallas media, which is sad because he and Greg Ellis are always the guys in the locker room politely and sincerely answering questions even after the most heartbreaking loss after everyone else is ducking out the backdoor to get on the bus.

This is very unfortunate. They really don't seem to highlight any of our good players. They'd rather write/talk about Bill or T.O.

 

[TEK2000]

This is very unfortunate. They really don't seem to highlight any of our good players. They'd rather write/talk about Bill or T.O.

Ya know... we as a mass of fans could flood the normal mediots with emails to the point where they can't help but pay more attention to Newman.

Randy Galloway, JFE, Mickey Spags, etc. etc.

 

[GhettoxCowboy]

first choice j witt

2nd choice T.newman

 

[Manster68]

Present - Flozell Adams - that should be obvious.

PAST: I'll do it by positions

QB - Don Meridith
RB - Walt Garrison
FB - Robert Newhouse
TE - Billy Joe DuPree
WR - Golden Richards or Frank Clark
OT - Mark Teunei
OG - John Niland
C - Dave Manders
DE - Tony Tolbert
DT - Larry Cole
OLB - Dixon Edwards
MLB - Eugene Lockhart
CB - Mike Gaechter
S - Randy Hughes
P - Mike Saxon
K - Tony Fritsch
KR - Alexander Wright
PR - Kelvin Martin
ST Cover - Jay Saldi

 

[Seven]

Ellis, Newman, A.Glenn, T.Glenn. All football guys who show up to work no matter what the world thinks.

I'd like to add Bradie but I'm still curious to see how he does without Dat on the sidelines............. clueing him in. Also agreeing with WG's thoughts.

My all time favorite underrated guys :
Jay Novacek and Butch Johnson.

 

[bobbie brewskie]

in some cases emmitt smith is actually under-rated. being under-rated has to do with comparing your talent to where people rate you. and a lot of people say that other RBs were better than emmitt, names you hear very often are barry sanders, jim brown and walter payton . . . so with emmitts records/stats/superbowl rings and every other achievement people still dont call him the best ever, or sometimes dont even have him in their top5. so sometimes he can be considered under-rated but usually is not.