Moves That Were Almost Made

[xwalker]

Lesean McCoy

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...to-draft-board-lesean-mccoy-might-be-a-cowboy

Good find.

 

[xwalker]

Lesean McCoy

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...to-draft-board-lesean-mccoy-might-be-a-cowboy

The other lesson that people should learn from that it's more important to get the player that you want and have scouted extensively than to get "value" for the pick in terms of media draft analyst concept of value. The Cowboys could have used a few of the 12 picks that they had to trade up and get Max Unger, the player that they really wanted. Even if they had traded into the 1st round, it would have been 1000 times better than what actually happened. Just like with the Frederick pick, the draft media would have proclaimed it a "reach", but the Cowboys would have had Unger instead of the array of busts that they ended up with.

 

[Star Guard_31]

You left out that Jeffers then went on to catch a total of 14 passes for the remainder of his career, which only lasted 2 more years.

And you left out that the reason he only caught 14 more passes over 2 seasons is because of a freak injury exacerbated by medical malpractice.

Given his age, he likely would have played another 5 or 6 years had he not taken a helmet to the knee and/or if the team surgeon hadn't botched the surgery. This wasn't a degenerative condition that would have surfaced inevitably. It was a catastrophic, freak injury that shortened his career.

 

[joseephuss]

You also forgot that Dallas got a 5th round pick as compensation for Carolina signing then restricted free agent Jeffers to a one year $1.2 million dollar deal. The very next season Carolina extended him to his very own big contract. It would have cost Dallas to keep him just like it cost them to sign Rocket. In the end, neither guy had a great NFL career.

 

[Star Guard_31]

True, a 5th round pick that I believe was used to move up in the 1st and select Ebenezer Ekuban, so it's tough to grade that one since it was part of a trade package. It's worth noting the extension the Panthers later signed Jeffers to was for 4 years and $10 mil plus a $3 mil SB, so about half what we signed Rocket for. In addition to the ability to get deep, Jeffers had good size and was an Aikman favorite. It would have been nice to have someone with the size to go over the middle who had chemistry with Aikman was once Irvin went down that year.

 

[Afigueroa22]

Moss without Carter in the early part of his career could have been a very different player.

Moss without a chip on his shoulder could have been a very different player.

 

[theSHOW]

The 2009 draft - wow . If you think about that draft, the players would be in their prime right now. Four years in, that's why this team has so many holes.

I like this assessment you make with this one statement about 1 year of recent drafts. This is the year that 2009 can be over as nobody needs to be resigned from this class and we get a few 2009 players added to the team with the trade off being the release of older vet DeMarcus Ware. Younger is better and this will be a young team in 2014 minus our QBs.

 

[jrumann59]

I heard that one day Wade Phillips wanted mustard on his hot dog but Jerry overruled him and wade had to go with ketchup instead.

Sort of like his defense the last year here.

 

[khiladi]

Saying Aikman would have extended his career by virtue of randy moss Is the definition of a stretch. If you're trying to make the argument that having one wr - even a very capable one - would have reduced concussions to the extent he would have played 2 or 3 more seasons is flatly ridiculous. That seems to be your inference. I merely pointed out what you initially failed to: that Aikman retired due mostly to concussions, not lack of all pro wr or te...which would essentially be a lack of interest. So, my friend, you OP sounded remarkably like a lack of interest argument.

Not a very hard inference, considering he would stretch the field and not allow the defense to just T Off...

 

[physeter]

If we had kept our first round pick, the one who spent in the supplement draft on Steve Walsh, we could have had either Junior Seau or Cortez Kennedy AND Emmitt Smith later.

I remember reading somewhere that Jimmy Johnson wanted Seau, which makes perfect sense because he was aiming for James Francis (a linebacker) later in that draft.

True. Johnson was never sold on Troy Aikman in the begining. Hence he drafted his QB at Miami. In fact I remember some reports saying that Tony Mandarich was going to be the first Cowboy pick of the Jones' era.

 

[trueblue1687]

Not a very hard inference, considering he would stretch the field and not allow the defense to just T Off...

Where that premise fails Is found in the fact that his injuries happened for the large part WITH his targets (Irvin, Novaceck). he didnt retire from concussions due only to sacks in his last two years. Further, Moss was a deep threat and Aikmans Achilles heal was immobility in Norvs timing offense. At the end of it all, you could just as easily make an inference that Moss could also stand on his head and crap in his watchpocket...both that premise and the one you comment on are equally unknowable.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Randy Moss would not have changed anything in Dallas. Chan Gailey wasn't a good coach and they followed him up with Dave Campo. Aikman was at the end of his career and the team as a whole had a lot of holes on it. They weren't going to win a Superbowl with Moss. Plus he would have wilted under the pressure of being a Cowboy and probably been out of the league within 5 years. And Randy smoked more than just a little herb. Chan also tried to limit Michael Irvin in the offense.

A couple things about this.

I always believed that most of the passing on Moss had to do with the fact that Jerry was scared to bring in another WR with off the field issues with Irvin already in the spotlight for a few things off the field that brought the wrong light on Dallas.

I don't know if the pressure of being a Cowboy would have gotten to him but I do know that Irvin very likely wouldn't have been the role model for him that Cris Carter was. Irvin on the field would have been just as good, probably better, than Carter but Carter was definately a better off the field influence, at the time, then Irvin would have been.

Now one thing that would have been way different, had they drafted Moss, was that Dallas would have never traded 2 first rounders for Joey Galloway. There would have been no need for that and there is no telling what they might have gotten those two years they had a draft pick. That could have been a big difference. For one they could have picked a QB far better than Quincy Carter with those extra first rounders.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Sure they could have beaten the Cardinals, but that is about it. They weren't winning a Superbowl with him and the chances would have still continued to get worse. Things just went down hill after that 1998 season and that defense wasn't too good. They couldn't get to the QB. Moss doesn't make them a better at rushing the passer. Dallas was ranked 18th in sacks in 1997 and 25th in 1998. The Vikes were ranked 12th in sacks in 1997 and 19th in 1998.

Quincy Carter still would have been bad with him at receiver. That is an easy, simple assumption. Same with old man Vinny. And would Moss have stuck around long enough to even play with Bledsoe or Romo? He left the Vikings after the 2004. he could have left Dallas, too. I didn't see him help out the Raiders QBs who were comparable to Carter, Testeverde and Bledsoe. It is not some big assumption. We can see what happens when Moss is placed in a similar position to what he would have faced in Dallas. He folds. He quits on his team and doesn't propel them to much. Dallas wasn't as good as Minnesota in 1998 or 1999 and by 2000 Dallas was a truly bad team. Dallas wasn't winning a Superbowl with him.

They would have had 2 more first round picks that they could have used to try and help that defense quite possibly. Because you probably wouldn't have seen the Galloway trade after Irvin was gone.

 

[joseephuss]

Rocket signed a 7 year contract for

They would have had 2 more first round picks that they could have used to try and help that defense quite possibly. Because you probably wouldn't have seen the Galloway trade after Irvin was gone.

Jerry probably would have packaged those two picks to get Michael Vick.

 

[bsheeern]

Von Miller is under contract in 2014 to the Broncos.

I know.

 

[iRepDatStar]

One of Romo's early career highlights was in 2004, when (as the third string QB) he rushed for the winning touchdown with six seconds left in a preseason game against the Oakland Raiders. Elevated to the Cowboys' #2 quarterback in 2005, Romo had strong showings in the 2005 and 2006 pre-seasons. In the 2006 off-season, Sean Payton (now head coach of theNew Orleans Saints), offered a third round draft pick for Romo, but Jerry Jones refused, asking for no less than a second round draft pick. Romo eventually took over the first-string quarterback role from Drew Bledsoe during half time against the New York Giants on October 23, 2006.

Granted it's Wikipedia, but almost positive it was a 3rd.

Trust me I know these things.. i remember the preseason games he had in 06. Also, October 23rd is my birthday and i remember that game and when Romo came in for the first time and threw an int lol