Moving Dallas out of the East?

[MistyAnn]

Here is some history.
when Seattle and TB entered the NFL. Seattle was in the NFC, I want to say Central.
TB was AFC West i think.

The following year, Seattle went to the AFC W, TB to the NFCC.

I can’t remember the reasons behind that though.

Seattle were in the AFC West with the Chiefs, Raiders, Broncos and San Diego
TB were with the bears in the NFC Central along with their other permanent foes that became the NFC north.
Tampa Bay's early success could never reach beyond Texas Stadium in the divisional playoff's. The good old day's.

 

[MistyAnn]

Once they moved to Phoenix it was an easy choice to move them to the NFC West. The same year the Cardinals relocated to Phoenix in 88 was the same year they moved to the NFC West. They were the most irrelevant team in the NFC East.

I remember the Phoenix Cardinals still in the NFC east in 1998. An end of an era time for us when we went perfect in the division 8-0 only for the Cardinals to beat us in the wild card game.

 

[KJJ]

I remember the Phoenix Cardinals still in the NFC east in 1998. An end of an era time for us when we went perfect in the division 8-0 only for the Cardinals to beat us in the wild card game.

When the Cowboys lost to the Cardinals in the playoffs in 98 at home after going 8-0 within the division, that’s when I knew it was over for our great 90s teams. Losing to a Jake Plummer led Cardinals team at home was hard to swallow. The Cowboys put up 30+ points on them both times during the regular season and only managed 7 points in the playoffs.

 

[jazzcat22]

Seattle were in the AFC West with the Chiefs, Raiders, Broncos and San Diego
TB were with the bears in the NFC Central along with their other permanent foes that became the NFC north.
Tampa Bay's early success could never reach beyond Texas Stadium in the divisional playoff's. The good old day's.

Yes that was where they were in the 2nd year. Their 1st season as expansion teams, they were in different divisions as well as conferences.

 

[Cowboys5217]

I remember the Phoenix Cardinals still in the NFC east in 1998. An end of an era time for us when we went perfect in the division 8-0 only for the Cardinals to beat us in the wild card game.

I had bad feelings the week before the game that something would go wrong.

 

[Cowboys5217]

Yes that was where they were in the 2nd year. Their 1st season as expansion teams, they were in different divisions as well as conferences.

Seattle is the only team that has flipped conferences twice as far as I know.

 

[jazzcat22]

Seattle is the only team that has flipped conferences twice as far as I know.

Yes I think you are correct.

The AFL NFL merger in 1970. Steelers, Colts, Browns all went from the NFL to the new AFC which of course were teams from the AFL.

I don’t think any other teams switched conferences. Just divisions. Other than TB and Seattle of course after that first season.

 

[KingintheNorth]

0%.

NFL brings in massive money with rivalries with Philly, New York and Washington

The rivalries are outdated and no longer necessary. The NFL is so popular now.

Sure, I love to hate the Pigeons and the Washington Whatevers, but the Cowboys playing division foes closer to their region would be much better for fans and TV in the long run.

The Cowboys get ratings whoever and wherever they play. Get us out of the cold late-season games in the east.

 

[AbeBeta]

Moving the cowboys would be destructive to the NFL product. Judging by the past few years of smooth brained decisions by them, I am sure they will be moved soon.

It would be stupid. This is no longer the NFL of the 80s where travel really took a toll on players. These dude are on chartered flights. There is no sitting around airports or any of that nonsense. They arrive at the airport, fly though security because the team has arranged TSA Precheck and go right to the plane. Everything is taken care of for them. They aren't stressing about checked luggage or stuck in terminals with delays.

Travel is not what it used to be. This is exactly why we will likely see a team in London. All it takes is a team with the money to by a Concord as a team plane. Flight times would be no different than what teams do now.

 

[MS17]

I know this will never happen, but it only makes sense for the NFL to realign teams geographically. The Cowboys, Texans, Cardinals and Saints all belong in the NFC South.

I wont happen, in our lifetimes anyway.
But as Mr. Spock would say, "realigning NFL teams geographically would appear to be logical." As far as leaving the Cowboys in the NFC East, Jerry loves him some large market ($$$$, TV shares) teams 6 or 7 games each year. So..if the league approached him about leaving the East, my guess is he'd say "***?" first, then "Hell no."

 

[jazzcat22]

I remember the Phoenix Cardinals still in the NFC east in 1998. An end of an era time for us when we went perfect in the division 8-0 only for the Cardinals to beat us in the wild card game.

Sadly they lost, I was at that game.

 

[Pantone282C]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

 

[fivetwos]

Who thinks of this crap? 9 divisions? Only a jackass would do that. If you have 36 teams it should be 3 divisions of 6 in each conference. An 18 game season. Play 10 games in the division, 4 outside the division, and 4 outside the conference. This is not hard stuff. It's basic common sense.

In the spirit of today’s society, I think they should have 32 one-team divisions. They all win each year. Give everyone a shot to have a day to hoist that flag to the rafters the following season. Fans will eat it up.

 

[Flamma]

In the spirit of today’s society, I think they should have 32 one-team divisions. They all win each year. Give everyone a shot to have a day to hoist that flag to the rafters the following season. Fans will eat it up.

I know you're being sarcastic, but what you say isn't far from the truth. 50% of NHL teams make the playoffs. 66% of NBA teams make the playoffs. The NFL has 43.75% making the playoffs. Baseball is 40%. Fans love a meaningless regular season and watching crap teams in the playoffs.

The NHL had 16 teams make the playoffs for a very long time. Even when they only had 21 teams.

 

[csirl]

I dont get the money argument.

Going by geography, Cowboys and Panthers should be swapped with each other. Can someone explain how NYG v Carolina and Dallas v New Orleans brings in less tv money than NYG v Dallas and Carolina v New Orleans?

In the sceanrio above, Dallas and NYG NOT playing each other gives you 2 x big market games and also 2 x games that have national appeal instead of one.

 

[CouchCoach]

I dont get the money argument.

Going by geography, Cowboys and Panthers should be swapped with each other. Can someone explain how NYG v Carolina and Dallas v New Orleans brings in less tv money than NYG v Dallas and Carolina v New Orleans?

In the sceanrio above, Dallas and NYG NOT playing each other gives you 2 x big market games and also 2 x games that have national appeal instead of one.

The TV money is set and the matchups do not play into it, one game doesn't make more for the league than another.

The overall ratings get affected because there are 24 East games each season involving 4 of the top 9 markets and division games are among the highest in the respective markets. Even when East teams have down years, the division games get the highest ratings.

Besides that, Goodell isn't crazy. He isn't about to tell those Eagles fans they're not going to get the Cowboys twice a year. I lived in PA during Buddy Ball and the Cowboys weren't a factor but you couldn't tell that to the Eagles faithful. The two Cowboys games netted higher ratings in PHL than the games against WAS, the eventual SB champ in 89.

 

[StarOfGlory]

It's quite simple: Advertisers love the NFC East cash cow. The Cowboys are going nowhere. If the Red Skins ever get their poop together, every NFCE game will be a license to print money, with the Cowboys leading the $$$ parade.

 

[fivetwos]

I know you're being sarcastic, but what you say isn't far from the truth. 50% of NHL teams make the playoffs. 66% of NBA teams make the playoffs. The NFL has 43.75% making the playoffs. Baseball is 40%. Fans love a meaningless regular season and watching crap teams in the playoffs.

The NHL had 16 teams make the playoffs for a very long time. Even when they only had 21 teams.

All true.

Not sure if you’re into baseball, but they really screwed things up with the last money grab. The regular season means next to nothing. There’s teams you know are going to make it, and the races are between the awful ones.

 

[blueblood70]

The rivalries are outdated and no longer necessary. The NFL is so popular now.

Sure, I love to hate the Pigeons and the Washington Whatevers, but the Cowboys playing division foes closer to their region would be much better for fans and TV in the long run.

The Cowboys get ratings whoever and wherever they play. Get us out of the cold late-season games in the east.

I don't understand what closer to our region really means, Texas is smack in the middle of the country we're literally central to everything West or east and when you look at where the teams are located there isn't really anything that's truly closer I mean you're splitting hairs here trying to say that we should be playing with people from the West we're in the central time zone with Chicago correct? So whether we play some east teams or some W teams on our schedule the travel is typically almost the same so I don't know who in fact is what you call in our region I mean you wanna move the Texans into her division no because you need one in the AFC

So what teams exactly are you telling us that we should play in our own division, what's our division look like in your eyes, I'm just curious??

I say leave it the same because I do believe that rivalries are important but also I don't see anything that's really truly better as far as travel and other things are going to shake out.

 

[KingintheNorth]

Dallas, Miami, and Seattle travel the most amount of miles each year.

Neither Miami or Dallas belong in the "east" divisions of their conferences and are only in those divisions because of the traditional rivalries that the league used to rely on to generate interest. Seattle is far away from eevryone so not a lot you can do, plus they are in the "west" division already.

Dallas would make much more sense playing Arizona, Denver, and Las Vegas. The Phoenix and Las Vegas areas have huge Cowboy fan bases, plus I would love to play in two more domes. Denver would be the only annual cold-weather game and that would only be if they played there late season.

Nashville, New Orleans, and yes, Houston would also make sense.

I get the old school rivalries. I just don't think they are necessary any more. Philadelphia and Washington are awful stadiums and environments, and New Jersey is no picnic either, so I would not miss those annual road games at all.